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    If I buy a 7970 this week

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by SMOKE_SKULL, Apr 27, 2012.

  1. SMOKE_SKULL

    SMOKE_SKULL Notebook Deity

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    Will there be a 7990XTX next week that performs 20% better and make me feel like a fool for buying the 7970? Or will there be a 7950 all crippled up that someone will find out that by flashing to the 7970bios it will score the same as a much more expensive 7970? Honestly I am tired of this game they play. When I heard how cheap it is for them to build these cards and the huge profits, then a few months later it starts all over again with a new model. Also you get to blame poor drivers when your high end cards dont perform as they should.
     
  2. rschauby

    rschauby Superfluously Redundant

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    Yes, except the 7990XTX GT will have 50% better performance and cost about $1000 less so it will render any system your purchase today worth $0.
     
  3. Ghghgh7303

    Ghghgh7303 Notebook Enthusiast

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    The 7970M is already a 100W card, I don't see a 7990M coming.
     
  4. HeavenCry

    HeavenCry Notebook Virtuoso

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    The 7970M wont even be shipping till end of May at least. Nothing new is coming that soon.
     
  5. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

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    I agree, plus it has the same shader count as the desktop equivalent.

    AMD went full on beast this round. :p
     
  6. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    It's not a game it is a way of life.
     
  7. Botsu

    Botsu Notebook Evangelist

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    If you're talking about mobile GPUs then go ahead, it's unlikely there will be a 7990M and if there eventually is the margin for it to be significantly better than the 7970M simply isn't there. If you're talking about desktop idk, there was talk about a 1ghz edition 7970 at some point, might be interesting to look into it.
     
  8. YodaGoneMad

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    The 7970m is already 100 watt, so it is unlikely a new card is coming from AMD. The 680m will be coming, and it will likely be faster/better than the 7970m.

    If you have duel 6990's why do you need a new card anyway? They give a bit of a performance bump, but you should be running everything at 60+ anyway, they don't have a new Direct X or anything. There is nothing the 7970m will run that your 6990m's won't.
     
  9. harmattan

    harmattan Notebook Evangelist

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    Smoke, as mentioned, 7970m is a fully-enabled Pitcairn chip unlike 6970m which was a cut-down GPU leaving room for the 6990m. Essentially, Amd couldn't come with a better chip under 100w this gen if they wanted (unless they did a whole redesign and respin which isn't going to happen).

    As for unlocking a "7950m", amd learned their lesson with the undercut in profits from the 6950 -- this won't be happening again and everything going forward will surely be laser-cut.

    And yes, looking at Kepler, the 680m will likely be a little more performant than 7970m (think 6990m v 580m). It will also cost $200 more, so there's that.

    Go for it, I am. Finally, it looks like a card will deliver uncompromising performance in a form factor you can actually move.
     
  10. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    Yoda I have bad news for you bro, Slick got some insider info which says 680m got butt kicked :( And because of this delayed for about 6 months :eek: I wouldn't count on that anymore because in 6 months we will have amd 8000m coming soon...

    yeah looks like this round amd won the enthusiasist market, heck, even the performance market, I mean 7750m at 25W is crazy :eek:
     
  11. Botsu

    Botsu Notebook Evangelist

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    Hey hey you either have serious sources to back up your statement or you need to stop throwing speculation like that :p I believe the 8000M won't happen before Q1 2013.
     
  12. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    I don't but a few friends at nbr does and they are talking about it this way...

    Also about 8000m that's why I said coming soon, Q1 2013 will be 1 month away 6 months from now..

    BTW believe me I wish 680m could have been sooner, as my 7970m is dying already I need a new GPU (580m doesn't feel fast anymore :()
     
  13. SlickDude80

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    680m is getting the clocks tweaked right now. It got punched in the stomach by the 7970m. THis has been confirmed by 2 different people.

    So unless they are able to rework the core and ram clocks, it will get smoked by the 7970m.
     
  14. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    And being twice more expensive... which says noone except for people who need CUDA won't buy it..
     
  15. YodaGoneMad

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    This just doesn't line up with any confirmed facts. People may be saying that, but it could be as much AMD hype as anything. Nvidia's new architecture is significantly more efficient, if they make a card with the same TDP it should still be a good 10+% faster than the 7970m, and that is before drivers, which will almost certainly widen that gap. All the industry talk I have seen says that it is the manufacturing process holding Nvidia back from launching new cards.

    Anyway, the thread creator here is worried about getting the card and having it "outdated" within a few months, and until the 680m actually releases and is not better there is a high chance of that happening (though 10% is hardly outdated, but then he has duel 6990 and is considering upgrading, so for him 10% might be outdated). The best advice is still to wait and see what Nvidia comes out with, their card could be faster, it also has tons of exclusive features (various types of AA, adaptive vsync, ambient occlusion, etc) along with generally better drivers.
     
  16. SlickDude80

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    They will sell a ton because many people prefer nvidia. Some think that nvidia drivers are better and will disregard everything to buy from the green team
     
  17. SlickDude80

    SlickDude80 Notebook Prophet

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    we will all know soon enough. I don't want to turn this into a fanboy thread. I'm just telling you what i have heard down the pipeline
     
  18. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    well, I am an nvidia fan but seeing that 5.6k 3dmark11, I think it speaks for itself right Slick? :D
     
  19. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Kepler is more efficient since it lacks compute, compare that to the 7870 and it's a different story.
     
  20. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    Forget about desktop Kepler, mobile world 7750m will be close 650m and it is far less demanding (25W to 45W)
     
  21. ajbutch123

    ajbutch123 Notebook Consultant

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    If that's true then I'm happy! Then I can have the top-of-the-line card again for half the price!
     
  22. DarkSiren

    DarkSiren Notebook Guru

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    There's always going to be something new on the horizon.

    You can wait 10 years and get the next big thing but if you have an awesome computer now then wait.

    The 6990m does everything already like another poster said here.
     
  23. DSx1if30wn3r

    DSx1if30wn3r Notebook Enthusiast

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    I would save your money and keep what ya got. Although the 7970m looks really appealing (it is), it's not worth spending extra money for something that won't provide a significant difference compared to what you already have.