Innovative new games?

Sorry to be that guy but people keep saying what great games are out. Except for maybe Oblivion i really haven't seen anything *great. I wonder why everyone wants these super powerful heat generating mobile cards when most of these new games stink! Ign is pretty good with reviews, and notice how few solid new innovative titles have been out lately. Having some mobile gaming gear is nice, but seriously 300 bucks for a mobile vid card? So in hindite of the bashings i will get tell me what games make your mobile monsters worth the 300 dollar vid cards . At least then i'll have some insight to what i'm missing out on. I don't need a 512meg card to play WoW, Hl2, Source, or Warcraft 3. All great games, and all the newer games are rehashes it seems. I don't feel the games are delivering, nor the xbox 360 for that matter! Just some feedback... i'd be interested if anyone else agrees they are playing older titles not just new fancy lookin games.

 

Many of us choose to buy expensive video cards, because we like immersing ourselves into the game; to get away from life for a while and have fun. To see some of these games in all their 3D glory is just amazing, but it's impossible to experience the full goodness unless you have a powerful GPU.

And yes, many games out there are like stale, Hollywood remakes. It's the games like Oblivion, WoW, the Half Life series, the Doom series, Far Cry, FEAR, etc. that bring their own fresh, interesting elements to the gaming world. Just my $0.02.

 

I agree...in part. Alot of people that buy the high-end video cards turn on and up most of the options in the game that you couldn't with a lower-end card. Also, even with some games that are out now, you don't "need" all those options, but alot of people love the eye-candy (me) .

Also, it is kind-of safer for the newer games...at least you won't have to upgrade rightaway. I love playing WoW with AAxAF on, makes the game look alot better. I mean granted if I turned the settings down I would get like 80-90 FPS, but like I said, I love the eye-candy.

Worth it...I think so, but that is just my $.02

As for the old games, I play some...Star-craft, C&C and they don't need the card, but still.

As for the impressive games...I think you are right, there haven't been too many...Oblivion was decent for me...not spectacular, but eye-candy was great!

 

I know what you mean, Jballa. It seems like alot of it started with HL2, which, like you said, doesent require a 512mb card, but I'm gonna have fun running it at 1920x1200 with the settings on high. Like those guys said, it is fun to play the games with their full graphic potential, but the eye candy only does so much.

Out of all the games on the market, the MMORPG's are pretty popular, but I'm more of a story fan with RPG's, not really into the Diablo-style hack and slash, it just gets old, and I can't see the appeal. I ordered Oblivion, that should rock. F.E.A.R is supposed to be cool, but other than that, I don't see many truly interesting, let alone innovative games on the market.

What I really want to see are some non-violent games, or at least non-realistic violence, e.g. Super Mario World. I might play F.E.A.R. but I think HL2 might be the most I can take, and only cause it's so futuristic and whatnot(not just in graphic design, either). I'm hoping they will release Alan Wake on the PC instead of just the PS3. A good, non point and click adventure game would be rad.

Spore looks alright but the premise is kind of dull, even though it is very quirky and complex looking. I miss playing games like Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis, Day of the Tentacle, and Elroy Goes Bugzerk. These new games all have brawn and street(or forest, space, mythical land) smarts but they're not very good story-tellers. I'm tired of factions vying for world domination(you know, there's probably only one group in reality pulling the strings), radiation hazards, obviously sinister evil forces, organized crime, war, battles, more war, the "hero" saving the world again, more radiation, false notions of Hell, demons that always look like ogres with little to no intelligence instead of being deceptive angels of light or invisible regardless, the "hero" saving the world yet again, a bunch of different "heros" competing to save the world, ect. Games have fallen into an incredibly stale trend again. Oblivion even has alot of these pitfalls. Dude, you're right. Games suck these days. If I could make an entire game on my own, I would. Maybe I'll make a mod for HL2 or Oblivion with a good story and less extreme violence, intelligent plotting, ect. Anyone with me?

 

I'd like to respectfully mention that if games like HL2, FEAR, etc. are too violent and not deep enough for you, you're playing the wrong genre of game. HL2 especially is an exemplar of the FPS genre. It has good, fun action, and an interesting storyline. You couldn't ask for much more out of a shooter.

 

I don't play FPS very often, hardly at all in fact. But I borrowed a copy of Half-Life 2 the other day and I must say that I was really impressed. Like nushmeow I'm much more a fan of good story telling than I am of good action. Despite this, and probably because of it, Half-Life delivered well. I REALLY like how the developers stuck in visual details which fleshed out the reality of the story in seemingly innocuous ways. Like when you first get off the train and are confronted by the guards. You learn to dislike them very quickly. Or in the the city with all the undead people (raven something?...) when you see the empty canisters that the authority people shot into the town square, which must have released all the symbiant monsters running around. Since I've avoided FPS in the past it's a style of story telling I've been heretofore ingnorant of. I can't speak for any of the other big FPS, but HL2 is impressive by me.

 

I respect people like you who are willing to give games from another genre a shot, and give their honest opinion. I'm sure you and nush could point me out to some great games. I'm always willing to give different ones a shot, so if you guys have recommendations let me hear!

 

Doesn't that also make the game run a lot slower as well USAF??

 

Yes, but since my FPS were at like 80+ with it off...now it hovers around 60...the human eye cannot detect anything over 60, so I remedied that with some more eye-candy.

 

First off addressing why I spent so much on my Graphics Card. When buying my laptop I had to have the powerhouse GPU, the main reason being that I am a poor college student and I don't want to have to get 6 months down the road and realize that the 2400 bucks I shelled out for a Gaming Powerhouse doesn't run anything new. Now my Laptop isn't the most spectacular one out there but I believe it's still pretty smoking.

As for the innovation in games: This is really kinda of the eye of the beholder issue here. I love FPS games so with the last two years having HL2 (and in 12 days HL2: Episode 1), F.E.A.R, and Battlefield 2 I have been Thrilled and Thanking God I sent back my Brand New 9300 ( with the X300) and getting my E1705 with the 7800 Go. Now beyond FPS's we have Oblivion, Call of Cthulu( If you like crapping yourself from fear), and Indigo Prophecy all great games with EXCELLENT Story Lines. So when I go back and weigh out my decision of if getting a $300+ GPU I am glad to say I mad the right choices, plus it just looks soo good when you crank everything up!

Some of the best games ever!

 

Def some good responses going around. Coming from the early 80's (1982 respect!) i must say games are as sad as the cartoons now and days? Where the H3LL are the thunder cats? dino riders? he-man? Innovation has taken a spill. I'm all about the eyecandy, but i remember when games had replay value. But comon? Has anyone here played TradeWars 2002? Legend of the Red Dragon (BBS DAYS). There was no fancy graphics! i pretended i could see the stuff in my head and honestly it was better! I love a great game, but a game like mario 3 and zelda start revolutions.PC games like Duke 3d and quake start revoloutions. Just wish the games were as well polished as the framerates and gameplay reflect. These are just thoughts, i'm not so foolish as to why we buy these awsome vid cards. Just thought we should respect the basics! -JB

 

i aslo think that some of these new games suck KEY WORD: SOME. FarCry/BF2 are good but others like HL2 and Doom3 just plain suck. i really miss the old games.

what wouldnt i give for the game that i played when i was 12? what wouldnt i give for that amazing game: UBI Soft/ Creation Software ... REDLINE RACER. a truly amazing game. loads of fun........... man i miss that game sooooooooooooo much it hurts!

 

Wylde, if your system can handle blurry two-dimensional graphics I highly reccomend Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis, it has one of the best stories I've ever seen in a game(second to maybe Final Fantasy VII), Day of the Tentacle, Space Quest 4 Roger Wilco and the Time Rippers, or any of the space quests for that matter. Elroy Goes Bugzerk is pretty cool too, but my absolute favorite is Sam & Max Hit the Road. That is some grade A(or maybe F) humor right there. I wanna try Psychonauts, that looks kinda cool with the crazy level design. Sanitarium and The Dig are two other older ones, I played demos of both of them and they were brilliant. I might buy the full games after I play through Oblivion and HL2 when my lappy gets here, hopefully tomorrow . And then theres the Commander Keen series, the original Duke Nukems, and Lode Runner.

 

I actually remember seeing some of those games when they were still somewhat new, (Indiana Jones/ Sam and Max). I also remember playing Commander Keen and Duke Nukem all the time when I was younger. I'll have to look at some of those. Were you ever a fan of the Myst series?

 

I'm not much of a games player these days, but I have to say that the variety of new games leaves a lot to be desired. The problem is that it takes an incredible amount of money to produce, promote and distribute a game these days, so the publishers play it safe and go with something a lot like something that's already worked.

The inevitable result is sequels and look-alike titles... if I had a dollar for every "realistic WWII shooter" I've seen the last two years... I still wouldn't buy one.

I hope that graphics hardware is starting to plateau, so that developers start considering going beyond the "...it's like Far Cry but the water is 20% spanglier!" school of thought.

It's a sad state of affairs that the only game I'm playing these days is a rewrite of the original Elite from 20+ years ago. This whole retro-gaming fad isn't just about nostalgia, it's also about playability and for want of a better term, "pick-up-ability." You know, a game that doesn't require 3 months of your life to be worth playing.

The only new game on the horizon that even vaguely interests me is BioShock, the spiritual successor to System Shock and SS2.

 

Were you ever a fan of the Myst series?

Definitely, at least the first game. I only played Riven a little bit but Myst was awesome. It was really cool going through the library and finding the secret doorways and stuff. If I remember right the end of the game was spectacular.

Another game I played in somewhat the same vein was Lighthouse. Ohhhh, that game was so creepy in the beginning. You should look that one up. It's creepier than Resident Evil but without the gore or zombies. So eerily atmospheric, excellent voice acting, and when you go through the portal(I wont spoil what happens before the portal) you meet the craziest looking bird-man-robot thing and the graphics just rock. There was one other good point-and-click that my dad got me started on, I think you were on a deserted alien space ship or somthing. I can't remember the name. But Lighthouse was definitely up there with Myst.

 

Ain't that the truth. I think it all got kicked off with Medal of Honor: Allied Assault. That's the only one I purchased, and it was a few years ago. I don't care how many games you want to make about WWII, they're still all the same.

I remember playing the demo for SS2, and it scared the crap outta me! lol