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    Intel HD DirectX 10.1

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by dustin_broke, Nov 15, 2011.

  1. dustin_broke

    dustin_broke Notebook Consultant

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    Does anyone know what are the difference in performance or apparence when a video card has DirectX 10.0 vs 10.1? I noticed that the latest drivers from Intel makes the Intel HD have DirectX 10.1 but what difference does it make having it? If it's not huge difference I would still like to know what is improved by having DirectX 10.1
     
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    dustin_broke Notebook Consultant

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    Also for games like these will they have any improvements on image or performance?

    The Sims 2
    The Sims 3
    Crysis
    Crysis 2
    Doom 3
    Quake 4
    StarCraft 2
     
  3. Zymphad

    Zymphad Zymphad

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    Big difference is up to 30% more in performance in some games. Varies depending if the developer bothered, most didn't. Nvidia for a long time refused to adopt 10.1 so games were still junk with DX10 or DX9. It's all about who adopts the new API and who doesn't, just business.

    DX11 is really tbh DX 10.1 revamped. Since this time around Nvidia decided to not screw over gamers and actually adopt what is good for gamers. But then when DX11 was first touted, Nvidia actually show boated about saying it was exaggerated etc. It wasn't until they saw and knew AMD DX11 card sales exploded they decided to act as if they love DX11 and saying their GPU were better with DX11 than AMD.

    It's all a business war with DX10.1 and DX11 and IMO most of that sits on the shoulders of Nvidia, who will do anything to screw over their competitors and gamers alike.

    One thing that has been demonstrated over the years is Nvidia is usually very solid in what few things they support. AMD tends to support as much as they can, but not being as strong in some things Nvidia is. Nvidia IMO generally won't adopt something unless they can use it alienate their competition, if not, they will adopt it only because they are forced to.

    DX11 took off because AMD sales were strong enough and AMD provided game developers with DX11 hardware to develop games with. AMD's more aggressive partnership with game developers IMO is what forced Nvidia to finally play ball. This is also why majority of DX11 games play better with AMD. BF3, BC2, DA2, Alien vs Predator, Civilization V, Shift 2, Deus Ex HR, and more, all these games play better on AMD because when development for these games began, the only DX11 hardware available for them to develop with was AMD.
     
  4. dustin_broke

    dustin_broke Notebook Consultant

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    So any of the games I listed will have 30% more performance? What games will use 10.1? Or were you trying to say that basicly 10.1 is like or same as 11?
     
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    Zymphad Zymphad

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    Crysis 2 and Starcraft 2. That's it. The rest are either DX9 or OpenGL.

    But you can't play SC2 or Crysis 2 on Intel Graphics anyway, so it's a moot point IMO.
     
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    funky monk Notebook Deity

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    The only game I know of which support DX10.1 are assassins creed (I think it got taken out in a patch or something), and HAWX.
     
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    dustin_broke Notebook Consultant

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    So StarCraft 2 and Crysis 2 use DirectX 10.1 and 11? So I guess then having this on my graphics card does help alot. Or have I missunderstoon about that DirectX 10.1 is like 11? I heard someone said that 11 is like 10.1 but I don't know if it's true.



    Yes I can play Crysis 2 and SC2 on my notebook. I beat the game many times on both so it's playable. It may not be like the worlds best performing card but the Intel HD does play pretty good.
     
  8. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    It sort of is what it is.

    The intel HD graphics are pretty low powered. You should be able to play starcraft 2. Crysis might work on all low settings in dx9 at very low resolution.
     
  9. Fat Dragon

    Fat Dragon Just this guy, you know?

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    If I'm not mistaken (and I may be), DirectX 10.1 support will simply allow your card to use DirectX 10.1 features in games that use them. Generally, DX9 features aren't as pretty but allow for better performance, while 10, 10.1, and 11 features are prettier at the cost of higher power requirements, so with Intel HD graphics it's generally moot since DX9 graphics will already tax your chip with most games.

    I did, however, read an article when DX11 came out that said that some features actually improved performance over DX9 while also improving visuals. DX10.1 might do the same in some situations, though I don't know for sure. Either way, if your integrated graphics support DX10.1 (less common in games), that doesn't mean they support DX11 (more common). DX11 might be a revamped version of DX10.1, but it still requires DX11 hardware and drivers to run.

    In other news, good job running SC2, Crysis, and Crysis 2 on your integrated graphics - I didn't think it could be done. I'm assuming you're running something like 640x480 res and low graphical settings, or can you get more out of that GPU?
     
  10. dustin_broke

    dustin_broke Notebook Consultant

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    Well I did find out that my Intel HD graphics card is compairable to a $40 video card for desktops since I played Crysis 2 on both and they were the same. So basicly Intel HD is like an entry level card so I have to have it on the lowest settings to play well.

    I wish I was able to upgarde my video card to a mid range or so then it would even play Crysis 2 on med or maybe high. But my notebooks video card is not upgradeable. It's basicly stuck with an entry level card.
     
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    rschauby Superfluously Redundant

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    Post some screenshots. I want to see what Crysis looks like on intel graphics.
     
  12. dustin_broke

    dustin_broke Notebook Consultant

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    It looks exactly like when you have the game set to High on Crysis 2 since basicly High is low on that game and set the res to like 800x600 or 1024x768. It's nothin different even on higher end cards if you set it that low it will display the same. Just the higher end cards will have super performance on high setting on Crysis 2. It's nothin really special when I play Crysis 2 since I have to set it to high in order to play well. Anything higher like very high or extreme will start to lag.