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    Interesting CPU Core App...

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by HTWingNut, Jul 5, 2015.

  1. HTWingNut

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    Due out on Steam in a day or so: http://store.steampowered.com/app/384300

    More info here: http://cpucores.com/

    Reddit posts about it: http://www.reddit.com/r/cpucores

    So what do you think? Gimmick? Actual chance for improving performance? $20 pre-order price seems steep, and their supposed $37 actual price seems really steep. I guess I'll wait to see what it's all about. Tempted to give it a run myself. With Steam refunds, might as well and see if it actually works.

    Although I see their theory, putting all Windows processes on one core, leaving three left for gaming, but I'm not sure that really will help much. You can either have 80% of four core performance available, or 100% of three cores available. How many quad cores are actually limiting performance that would do better with three cores instead of four?
     
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  2. Althernai

    Althernai Notebook Virtuoso

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    I would be really surprised if this accomplished anything meaningful. Microsoft, Intel and AMD undoubtedly have teams of people who optimize the distribution of threads on cores for performance. I'm pretty sure modern CPUs are smart enough to give a particularly heavy thread its own core so if you had a scenario with exactly three heavy threads, it would put everything light on the remaining core (but how often does that happen?).

    I guess with the refund, you can try it out and see, but I wouldn't be too optimistic.
     
  3. Raidriar

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    Snake oil. only place I can see this maybe working is a Core 2 Duo. If you have a modern processor this is worthless. I'm guessing all this does in unpark cores and change around CPU core affinity, both of which can be done for free with a little googling.
     
  4. hfm

    hfm Notebook Prophet

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    Not to mention most games are not CPU bound in the first place. This already sounds like extremely diminishing returns right out of the gate.

    This is definitely one of those cases of a solution looking for a real problem to solve.
     
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  5. LaptopNut

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    It might give you an extra 1 fps and the GPU is what's most important. I think its a gimmick that those who don't know any better will purchase. If they were so confident they could offer a short Steam demo.
     
  6. killkenny1

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    It would be interesting to know if it brings any performance increase to FSX, since it is a very CPU intensive game, though it mainly uses a single core, so... Wonder if DTG did something about it.
     
  7. thegreatsquare

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    Process Lasso Pro shows up on giveawayoftheday.com a few times a year.

    I may buy and support them when I move to W10/DX12

    [​IMG]
     
  8. tijo

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    Not only that, the OS thread scheduler generally should be doing a decent jobs of assigning threads to the cores where they need to be and as far as I can tell with Windows 7 and up, the thread scheduler is doing its job like it should. So yeah, I agree mostly snake oil.
     
  9. thegreatsquare

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    I used Process Lasso to move unnecessary programs off the first core, which freed up "Core 0" for games more. It helped with my i7 720qm due to it's slow base clock. It also helped with some games by making games use cores 1-3 only, bypassing Core- 0. Most new games, save a few culprits, don't matter. Modor runs basically the same on 3 or 4 cores on my new GT72. I don't think DX12 is going to make this type of program more necessary. I still like using Process Lasso to restrict minor processes and as another potential way to terminate questionable processes ...and a little bit out of just habit or wanting to tinker and optimize,


    ...but the discussion I had there [at forum for Process Lasso] made me realize that for the gamer's needs, both Process Lasso and this new CPUcores program are a solution to something that is no longer a problem.
     
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  10. Brent R.

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    I am wondering why Steam is allowing this program to be sold on their platform? Since it is a snake oil type of deal...
     
  11. killkenny1

    killkenny1 Too weird to live, too rare to die.

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    Same reason they allowed Slaughtering Grounds I guess...
     
  12. jaug1337

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    I mean it doesn't look all that bad.

    At least the author is trying to improve, I can imagine this might have a slight performance increase in some old notebooks and i5's.

    Also the reddit posts don't seem all that bad either.

    He says himself that:
    "(...) it is for low/med/med-high but not super high end PCs."

    Extra edit: Maybe you should ask him for a free sample @HTWingNut and benchmark? Not sure if you've gold some older low/med laptops around.
     
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  13. HTWingNut

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    I have an older Clevo W110ER with GTX 650m, and an Asus UX303LB with GT 940m. Maybe I'll give it a whirl. I've spent more money on worse things.
     
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    Same reason they allow this to be sold

    [​IMG]
     
  15. D2 Ultima

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    I'd say it could help with certain single threaded games... almost all programs (including single threaded games) force themselves to core #1, and forcing windows and other programs to run on core #4 (or to evenly spread) should help the single thread issue. But it's nothing worth paying for, I can attest to that.

    And more importantly, most limited games will usually hit 60fps or thereabouts anyway... it's more of a help for me and my 120Hz panel, which most people will not have.
     
  16. Brent R.

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    Well most games that run on 1 core already basically do what this program does it's just a scam to try and get money out of people who wouldn't know better that it is a scam... And btw d2 what day did u say u were coming to the states so u could install my 120hz panel for me? ;)



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  17. Zero989

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    Completely useless when Win10 comes out.

    Not to mention zero benchmarks for any attempt at backing up claims.
     
  18. Brent R.

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    Yup just a scam plus if for some very odd strange situation u do need something like this there are countless free ones out there on google but most people would never need something like this


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  19. D2 Ultima

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    No, I'm saying that windows programs heading straight for core #1 and single thread games heading straight for core #1 = bad. If that program could say... separate one CPU core to let <insert single threaded game here> have say... core #4 all to itself; or to force windows and its programs to sit on core #4 and let that game have core #1 all by itself (cue singing) then it could prove some worth. But 60fps is usually easily achieve-able with even single-threaded games, and the effect is (as I said) not enough benefit worth paying for.

    Sometime after you buy me a plane ticket, transport and lodging, but before you buy me the return ticket. Then I'll be happy to have at your laptop =D.

    Actually you could probably scratch the return ticket, just find me a girl. She'll fall in love with my voice and manly knowledge of laptops and I'll get married and be able to live in the US.
    .......
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  20. octiceps

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    I was scratching my head at this as it made no sense in Chinese until I found out it's actually Japanese :vboops:
     
  21. D2 Ultima

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    LOL. Yeah, it means "maybe". I could have just written "tabun" but plugging romaji into translators yields a "does not compute". XD