Is 95C A safe temp for a 15 inch laptop with a 9600m-GT?

Was reading the review for an HP and it said while gaming the GPU hovers around 91-95 for a 9600m-GT...is this even safe?

 

it's kinda high

 

NO.

That is not a good temp at all.... its too close to reaching danger/threshold temp which will downclock your videocard or even shutdown your system to cool down.

If this was someones notebook, I would ask.....

When was the last time you cleaned out your notebook's vents?

As well as, do you use your notebook on a clean, hard, flat surface?
- using it on a soft surface (lap, bed, couch, etc..) will block the bottom fans and vents from getting airflow to properly cool the system.

 

It's not a Laptop i own. It's a review Of an HP Chaz Did awhile back And he said it's upwards of 91C or so (Brand NEW).

 

Wasn't the OP talking about temps quoted in a review for a NEW laptop?

*EDIT* Ack, inb4'd*EDIT*

 

Yeah, the HP dv5t with the 9600GT runs notoriously hot. 95 degrees is actually quite close to the design maximum temperature, which is not good. As the laptop gets older and more clogged with dust, it's likely that the temperatures will increase even more.

So is it safe? Yes, it won't kill the laptop right away. Is it good? Definitely no.

 

That's about 8-10 degrees beyond what I would consider a comfortable thermal level.

My OC'd 9800M only gets to 92C using synthetic GPU stress programs, and 85/86C in most gaming situations. That HP must have a terrible cooling system.

 

For the record, the HP dv5t I reviewed is still surviving, though admittedly I don't game on it much. Using a Zalman NC-1000 cooling pad, the GPU temp is in the low 80*C range, which is safe. The laptop's cooling system is far from the best, the laptop gets very warm. All of the heat is due 100% to the Nvidia GPU and the cooling system not being able to handle it; the integrated X4500 graphics card models had no heat problems at all.

Unfortunately the dv5t isn't produced anymore so this is all a mute point.

 

No laptop at that temp is safe at all, get a cooling system or something.

 

not card should be subject to that

 

Seems kind of weird to buy a laptop and then finding it necessary to get some sort of cooling accessory for it. Sounds like a big flaw if you ask me...

 

Sony VAIO VGN-2330: cooling failure.

@danisawesome: A laptop cooler can increase the performance of a laptop beyond the level it was intended to perform at, not only that, it helps prevent breakdown of system components by keeping them cool, and probably helps prevent dust buildup on some models as well.

 

No. Thats too hot. Just clean the vents, install official Nvidia 179xx drivers and I hope you will be good to go.

 

Interesting stuff is that I own a Dv5T and my laptop never goes beyond 85C during intensive gpu/cpu stress testing. Mind you I have heard somewhere (I know that "somewhere" isn't an acceptable source but) that the earlier models of HP's DV5T(with a 9600m GT) were using a Thermal pad designed for the 9200m model of the dv5t, The later models I think the Dv5-11XX range (some of which used a 9600m GT such as mine DV5-1139TX) used thermal paste (instead or a thermal pad) and supposedly a better heatsink..

It should also be noted that I live In Australia were it tends to be higher in temperature than typical northern hemisphere temps ( + there's that ozone hole that's hovering over us that's supposedly getting smaller).

Hopefully that'll clear it up a bit... If not I am glad I have helped muddle it all.

 

My C90S used to run at 100~110C, I got it down to ~96 using folding@home to force the fans. Now I don't have to anymore, it stays at 96C with my 8600 running at 475/1400/500. It's been like this for a year and half, still running fine. It's definitely not a good thing but you shouldn't get crazy over it.

 

But the ozone layer has nothing to do with heat; the hole in the ozone layer "only" lets in dangerous ultraviolet light from the sun.

 

Must be a horrible cooling system, I used a Clevo M860TU with a 9600M GT and when idling it was 40-45 and under full stress it was 50-55.

 

The forceware might be the root to problem.

 

It's always a good idea to have a cooler while gaming on notebooks with components like these, but it shouldn't be overheating without one, true.

The dv5t was a super great (" ") deal for a while there, many hundreds less than anything in its range. No real surprise that the cheapest laptop was too good to be true, as previous HP 'good deals' on gaming class notebooks have run hot. I'm surprised that those temps were on a brand new one, however! Yikes.

Probably around 80-85 would be what I would call an acceptable highest end range for a GPU, and a 9600M GT should be running even lower at most.

Yep, and the 9800M GT runs around 60C idle and low high 60s/low 70s stressed (not in power saving mode). The HP must have a whopper of an underwhelming heatsink on it.

An ozone layer "hole" does more than that and actually is related to increased heat (over the summers) in a certain region (at sea level); changed in the amounts of radiation in areas with a hole result in a cooler upper atmosphere and a warmer lower/sea level atmosphere. An area of depleted/decreased ozone also means increased greenhouse (CO2/NO, etc) as a cause of the ozone hole, which is a secondary reason why areas with ozone holes experience warmer summers. Also, it's not like UV light isn't heat; it's a type of solar radiation. But this is really not the place or thread to comment on the ozone layer, especially incorrectly

 

anyway onto the topic, The DV5T for its time was and still within my eye's remains as an amazing buy. literally the budget I had and the dream of being able to game moderately for the next few years It's a beast, sure there are heaps of options available now, But back in 2008 the tables were different..

Oh yeah that and since my qosmio g10 had died on me (the laptop I owned previously, that and a got it cheap cause it was second hand) Being foolish and 16 years of age at the time, I didn't think of warrenty and the go FX5700m died.. Mind you that was a Nice card, Yeah anyway a forethought when I bought my dv5-1139tx I grabbed a 5 year warrenty (I don't really care about getting a new computer when this will run everything that I want on High *Crysis excluded* not only that but it should be future proof for the next few years anyway) so I should be able to keep this computer and not have to replace it out of my pocket in the next year or so as you lot may be thinking..

If your looking at a laptop thats of a mid range price tag there are better alternatives available nowaday's than the dv5t, but at its time it was a brilliant deal bang for buck..

 

Heliopath, you are talking like it was released such a long time ago...Then again the world of electronics move quickly.

My DV5T (DV5-1000) has never been above 71 C on the GPU. This is without a cooler (using my cooler doesn't seem to help it all that much, maybe 2 degrees). Even after playing GTA4 for hours, it doesn't go above 71. I ordered mine in January so maybe I got the revised heatsink?

 

My Dv5t has peaked around 79-81 C after I ran ATI Tool for well over any hour.

Usually though, my constant temp while gaming is somewhere between 67-70 C. GTA IV hits around 73-75 C though.

These temps are all while overclocked, and I use the NZXT Cryo cooler.

My temps at idle with standard clocks are usually around 48-52 C.

 

My DV5t 9600m temps...

- Idle around 35-38C (with a cooler)
- Under a load I have not seen anything over 55C (again using a cooler AND OC'ed).

I did take my notebook apart when i first got it and added Arctic Silver to both the CPU and GPU.

I have wondered if HP updated the Heatsink for the dv5t. I have seen users in the HP thread comment about getting a "thermal pad" replaced when they had their 9600m in for service. Another owner commented that the Service notes stated that their heatsink was replaced and now they are seeing better temps.

It just makes since as the earlier owner of the dv5t have commented on high temps that I don't see.

 

Good temps!

How difficult was it to apply Arctic Silver on the CPU and GPU?

 

I bought my dv5t less than 24 hours after it was released; based on some of the temperatures you guys are reporting, it does sound like some change was made. Then again, none of us have mentioned the ambient room temperature. My 9600M GT reaches 90*C temperatures in a 70-75*F room.

 

The hardest part was getting to the Heatsink. This model has the CPU and GPU facing to the bottom of the notebook so you have to take the entire machine apart. I pulled the Service and Maintenance manual off the HP site and it helped get me started.

It is Spring in the Midwest so my ambient room temps are around 68-73 F. I also use an Antec model cooler that lifts the back of the notebook and pushes the air under the notebook.

 

My ambient room temperature is around 72-77 F. This past winter my temps were around 5-10 C cooler since we didn't run the heater at all.

I bought my Dv5t in late November, so I am not sure if mine has a different heatsink or not. I guess I could open it up and take a look.

I only have a one year warranty, so as soon as that is up I will definitely look into some Arctic Silver. Especially since your temps are so low!

 

Quick update...

- Ambient room temp 73 F
- Idle GPU temp 40 C (200/400/200)

Drew90 --> You overclock your GPU correct? Do you always run your GPU in overclock mode? I have setup two clock modes. One is titled "Low Power Mode" and I have it set to 200/400/200 and another titled "Overclock Mode" set to 625/1450/500.

I am sure GPU clock speed also effect your temps.

 

I underclock the GPU as well, but only to 300/600/300 when not gaming. I am undeclocked now, with a cooler, a 77 F ambient room temperature, and have a GPU temp of 51 C.

I guess in my previous post I should not have said "standard clocks" -- it just slipped my mind that my general usage clocks (300/600/300) are not the 9600m GT standard clocks.

My 300/600/300 clocks are on performance 3D though, because I do not like restarting to switch my GPU clocks. Is your 200/400/200 clock setting on the low power 3D or the standard 2D drop-down setting?

 

First, I have RivaTuner setup to startup with Windows and I have set it to minimize to the windows tray. So it is allows around (to support the launcher feature).

I then force constant performance level to "Performance 3D".

I then set the Startup setting to "apply overclocking at Windows startup" which I set to 200/400/200. (My system always start up in Low Power mode)

I then created overclocking profiles. "Low Power mode" and "Default Clock" and "Overclock 3D mode". I use the "Launcher" feature and create new items and to activate the clock settings I want from the windows tray.

Whenever I want to play a 3D game I move my mouse over to the tray, right click on the RivaTuner icon, select Launcher and then "Overclock 3D mode". I am ready to play...

 

I have the exact same setup!

But my clocks will not go to 200/400/200 in Performance 3D. The lowest I can set them while on Performance 3D is 300/600/300. Any ideas???

 

You might check one of the "power user" settings.

Try...
Under --> RivaTuner\Overclocking\Global
set "MinClockLimit" to 1

 

82*C while gaming on crysis and far cry2. i did hit 92 only once and that was a few months back because the fans took a little more time to kick in.

 

Not safe IMO.

 

Are you using a notebook cooler? or lifting the back of your notebook a couple inches to help airflow?

82C I feel is fine, but the 92C ,IMO also, is a little to high.

 

Thanks, +1 rep!

Worked perfectly and I am now enjoying a stable 45 C idle temp at 200/400/200.

 

I have the dv5t with an antec cooler and today, i just hit 91 degrees after the recent release of Dox's driver. Should i buy canned/compressed air to spray into the vents?

Edit: The game was GTA 4.

 

My G1Sn is very hot with the 9500M GS. I've got a cooler and it should be blowing straight near the GPU but it's still 90-95 while gaming. The temp's ive heard others are having makes me believe that this one doesn't have the heatsink properly on. Wouldn't want to void my warranty yet, though.

 

Cooling pads do not do as much for the dv5t as they do for other notebooks. The outside surfaces of the notebook are noticeably cooler while using one, but internal temperatures not affected nearly as much.
The designers must have thought it was okay for the GPU to run at ~90*C, otherwise they wouldn't have released it. I suppose that is what the warranty is for . . .

Yes, you should clean out the vents every few weeks to ensure problem-free operation.