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    Is my GTX 870m going to be able to play the newest games in 5 years?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by refllect, Nov 14, 2014.

  1. refllect

    refllect Notebook Consultant

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    All I need is 900p medium/low settings.

    Will it do it?
     
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    30fps or 60fps? It's getting close to 5 years for me, still playing the latest games at 900p with my 5830m 1GB, with no MSAA but many other settings dialed up. However, frame rate is often around 25-30fps, sometimes lower. Up until this year was still able to run most new titles at 1080p.

    Hard to imagine what requirements will be like 5 years from now, but it's possible there might be games that need high VRAM to prevent stuttering.
     
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    Just 30 FPS 900p Medium-Low
     
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    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    765m (well, kinda 1.5 year old card, half of what you have though) runs AssCreed:Unity at 720p at high settings (with cheapest possible AA) with reasonable framerates, the original cinematic experience levels (30ish). So I wouldn't count on it, but 3 years maybe?
     
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    I hope AC Unity is not a shining example of what other upcoming AAA games will be like.
     
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    Does it look better at 720p high rather than 1080p low? How much longer will your 765m last?
     
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    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    Sadly, I think this is whats going to happen :(

     
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    I'd imagine it would accelerate the arrival of the next generation of consoles dramatically. Even peasants can't be thrilled with 20-25 FPS @ 900p on the current gen. The amount of input lag and jittery animations really hurts the experience even with a controller, and believe me, I've tried playing Witcher 2 with Ubersampling at those frame rates using a 360 pad.
     
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    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    Its such a sad thing isn't it, the next gen consoles are just as bad (maybe even worse?) in terms of blocking the advancement of technology, already.. :D
     
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    Ubisoft, leading the crusade for "advancement of technology"...maybe they are just ahead of their time. :p

    So next gen they are on a different level.
     
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    look at the 5870m it can still play most games 5 years later. yes you will be able to play games for 5 years
     
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    Too bad their games look as bad as they run...

    Just not Ubi$oft ones.
     
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    absolutely great advice yea nubisoft ones will run at very low 640x256 in a years time :p

    rep :)
     
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    When the 5870m was released, was it on around the same tier as the 870m when it was released?

    How does it handle new releases now? I can't seem to get any recent benchmarks.
     
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    Hey 640x256 was good enough for Edison and the Lumiere brothers. They are just getting back to their cinematic roots.
     
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    No, it was on the same level as the 980M is now. Fastest mobile GPU at the time of its release.

    It's impossible to make predictions like how you're doing. If another Crysis-like game teleported 5 years from the future comes along, it throws a wrench in things and most hardware is instantly obsoleted.
     
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    Hmm and the 5870m is just getting too old to play new releases now?

    Sounds like the 870m has 3 years left in it.
     
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    Isn't the 5870m basically mobile version of desktop 5770?
     
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    I'd say so, unless you're OK with 720p Low in most new games. I sold my 5870M laptop 2 years ago, it was already getting a bit long in the tooth back then. But people's preferences vary.

    Yeah but underclocked by 20%.
     
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    My minimum is 900p medium-low. When it gets to 720p low I can't really play like that.

    Isn't the 5870m basically a 5770 which is basically a 7750 which is a r7-250?
     
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    Yeah but the 5870M is underclocked by 20%. 700/1000 while the 5770 is 850/1200. And the 7750 is below minimum requirement in pretty much all recent and new games.
     
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    I imagine octiceps is probably more accustomed to higher frame rate. My 5830M is only GDDR3 and so far the only game I had to play at 720p was Witcher 2. Relatively recent titles like Far Cry 3, Bioshock Infinite, Blood Dragon, ME3 were mostly quite playable for me at 1080p for me apart from laggy cutscenes. Some 2014 games I've had to reduce to 900p include Nosgoth, Evil Within, Wolfenstein New Order, Borderlands 2.

    If you're talking about 30fps medium/low with no MSAA and 900p, 870m should do better than that for at least a few years as it's close to desktop GTX 770. No idea what kind of requirements we will see in 5 yrs but I doubt you would need to drop down to 720p for most titles between now and then.

    At any rate, comparing how gaming industry may have changed since release of previous flagship mobile cards like 5870M is not really representative of how long your 870M will last.
     
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    Actually, 870M is an underclocked 660 Ti. 970M is about a 770, it's up to 50% faster than an 870M.
     
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    Wow that's a lot, had no idea 970M was that much faster than 870M.
     
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    Exactly my point here:

     
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    when was the 5870m released and im pretty sure its more powerful than a r7 m265 and that card can game like a champ at 1366 x768 new titles well 90 percent.

    870m will last in some sence for 5 years but in 5 year 4k will be raging and you will be stuck at the crazy low 720p
     
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    5870M came out almost 5 years ago.

    R7 M265 is slower but doesn't exactly "game like a champ." Below 30 FPS @ 720p in anything demanding:

    AMD Radeon R7 M265 - NotebookCheck.net Tech
     
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    octiceps check out the you tube videos for it. It performs quite a bit better than notebookchecks claims