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    Is there a way to improve my computer's performance?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by blackjack95129, Apr 8, 2014.

  1. blackjack95129

    blackjack95129 Newbie

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    I've recently purchased a new laptop ( ASUS R510DP-FH11 15.6" Notebook Computer R510DP-FH11 B&H )
    with AMD a10-5750m cpu and radeon hd 8670m gpu. I tried running Saints row the third and I could barely get 30fps at all low settings. However this video ( AMD APU A10 5750m / HD 8670m Saints Row 4 Gameplay hp e001ax Performance - Radeon (8600m) - YouTube ) shows saints row IV running really smooth at higher settings and using the same specs.What can I do make my computer run faster and better? Thanks.
     
  2. J.Dre

    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It's probably a driver related issue. AMD is not known their driver support, if you could even call it that.
     
  3. blackjack95129

    blackjack95129 Newbie

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    I tried installing the drivers from the ASUS website, as well as from the AMD website, and they both say that my drivers are up to date. What else could there be to do?
     
  4. transphasic

    transphasic Notebook Consultant

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    To be brutally honest, your first mistake was selecting a laptop with an AMD A10 processor in it.
    AMD's APU line is not designed for high-end gaming.
    If you want to play games that are 4 years old and older, you can get by on Medium settings, but the newer games are far and away beyond the capabilities of any AMD APU chipset.
    There is a reason why laptop gamers choose Intel i7 CPUs, and that is because they are far more powerful, and thus, you get what you pay for.
    In comparison, an AMD A8 or A10 APU is the equivalent roughly between the Intel i3 and i5 CPUs, which is a dual core chipset, so none of your high-end non-AMD games will play. Some AMD-based games can play at lower settings, but it's not worth it in any case if you have to settle for mediocre performance on the lowest settings.

    The rule of thumb here is that if you want to play high-end games, stick only to Intel i7 CPUs, and while we're at it, only with Nvidia GPU's as well, because you get better drivers, driver support, better technology, and can play far more games at the highest resolutions and settings. Yes, you'll pay a lot more for all this, but at the end of the day, it's far more worth it, and it's money well spent.

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  5. hockeymass

    hockeymass that one guy

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    Well, first of all not really, and second of all none of that explains why this video shows much better performance with the same specs.
     
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  6. jeffmd

    jeffmd Notebook Evangelist

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    The youtube author didn't really mention it, but he is recording 720p video. Did you reduce the games resolution to 720p to see if you achieve similar frame rates?

    Also I would try to find a way to be sure that you are playing in crossfire mode and are using the 8670m as the display gpu.
     
  7. columbosoftserve

    columbosoftserve Notebook Evangelist

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    I feel like a lot of that is false information. Nvidia cards don't magically work better than AMD. Yes, the driver support might be more frequent but that by no stretch means AMD's drivers are terrible. Please check your facts. And as was previously stated, it doesn't explain how someone else with identical specs can get better frames than OP.
     
  8. transphasic

    transphasic Notebook Consultant

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    My original points to the OP question are correct.
    Nvidia has better drivers and hardware, and combined with an Intel i7 CPU, you will be able to play far more high-end games than you can with AMD's APU and GPU.
    It's not false information. It's a fact.
    You can play some older games at higher settings with the AMD APU's, but this is not the case with newer non-AMD games. Everyone knows this but AMD fan boys.
    AMD's drivers are much slower to come along as compared to Nvidia's, and with the Enduro nonsense still an issue, the frustrations that AMD users like are having are also a problem. Please check other sites where AMD users frequently express their anger at how Enduro is still a problem, and AMD's callous and mystifying answer to this is to deactivate Enduro, even though Sager/Clevo users simply cannot do this.
    As to my very valid answer- his low FPS rates are a result of having a much weaker and underpowered APU which is not designed to create high FPS rates with games like Saints Row.
    You cannot magically render higher frame rates with a AMD APU chipset to compete with an Intel & Nvidia counterpart, merely because you wish it to, because it can't.

    As to the Youtube video specs, I have never really paid much attention to what others claim as to the real FPS rates, because most of the time from what I have seen, the claims of high FPS rates on any games with typical specs found in other systems NEVER get that high, and are greatly exaggerated.
    One guy I saw on Youtube claimed that he was getting 60 FPS on Ultra Settings in Crysis 3 with his laptop.
    Hogwash.
    In this Youtube example of supposedly higher rates with an A10 and a AMD GPU of even 30 is a stretch, because even an Intel i7 and the new R9 GPU running at Ultra settings only gets 35, and a 49 running at low, so his system will do far worse than that.
    That is my point here. The OP is going to have to live with very low frame rates and at lower settings.
    If the OP had really wanted otherwise, then he should have chosen otherwise and gotten an Intel and Nvidia system.
    You get what you pay for.


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  9. jeffmd

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    trans, I dont think your nvidia points have any place here. He is comparing his amd machine to the amd machine of another user. He didn't ask how it compared to nvidia.
     
  10. columbosoftserve

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    You know you sound like an Nvidia fanboy right? On the other hand, I was simply trying to refocus the discussion back to OP. If you are talking specifically only about mobile drivers I can see that your points could have some merit. But honestly I haven't really had any problems with AMD's drivers since all that Enduro business.
     
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    Nah man. Although you are correct that A10 APUs would be bad for high end GPUs, the A10-5750M paired with a low performing 8670M GPU is actually not a bad mix. Neither of them will bottleneck each other :)
    That said, a i5 or a i7 would get better FPS in CPU bound games. But again, the price would be more expensive than the $649 OP paid for this machine.
     
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    Nvidia drivers are generally better, yes. That does not mean that AMD CPUs and GPUs are somehow bad for gaming.
     
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    AMD GPUs are good, its the processors that are complete trash.
     
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    AMD GPU's normally have better price-to-performance ratio than Nvidia GPU's, just not ATM because of cryptocurrency craze. And AMD CPU's are not trash.
     
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    AMD is all over the place. They generally win the price vs value war, but always lose out when you look are power use, heat, and overall high end performance. This makes them something to avoid in laptops. They used to be the goto company when you wanted 3d performance in your cheaper laptop, but 4400 and 4600HD graphics are pretty much on par, and offer much better power use.
     
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    Can't tell if ad or real post....
     
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