Is this normal performance for a T8300 processor?

Well, frankly I'm a little upset with the frame rates I've been getting from Counter Strike: Source & Team Fortress 2. 20 - 50 fps in a 40 player de_dust2 server, and 20 - 40 fps in a 24 player TF2 server. I was expecting quite a huge performance boost over my old AMD Athlon 1.8ghz, but apparently I get....5 fps more maybe? So...is it normal to get such low framerates in CS:S and TF2?

PS: It is NOT my GPU bottlenecking gameplay.

 

There is no way that CPU is the culprit. There must be some other issue....but I am not sure what....

Also, I don't know about CS, but TF2 is a somewhat demanding game on the GPU. I'd say 20-40 frames per second isn't too bad, what resolution are you running it at?

 

Well, I'm running at 1440x900, but no matter what settings I put it at (high/medium/low) it doesn't improve my framerates in multiplayer. I'm not running anything in the background either, other than ATITool, and Windows Live Messenger which I'm not signed into.

 

When you say setting what are you talking about, resolution or graphics?

Also, on the lappy in my sig, which has essentially the same GPU as you, I got anywhere from 20-50FPS in TF2 running at 1280 x 800. This is with everything high, no AA and trillinear AF. So I'd say your frame rates are pretty normal.

The 8600GT is a good card and all, but you can't expect 60FPS with it either.

What GPU did you have with your Athlon system?

 

I'm talking about graphics. Whether my texture, shader, shadow, AA & AF settings are at minimum, or whether they're at max, in multiplayer I get the same fps. During the Video Stress Test, or playing alone I'd get over 100fps average in CS:S. For TF2 I'd get about 50 - 70 fps. Throw a couple of players in and my fps drops like mad. CPU usage goes all the way up to 60 - 80% btw.

Oh, my old computer used an ATI Radeon x600 and a GeForce 7300 GT. No performance difference between either.

 

That is really odd...you don't think it is internet lag do you? That will cause frame drops....

 

Nah. I live in Singapore (which is 25km at it's widest) and I play in Singapore servers. I get less than 20ms as my ping.

Anyway, if you haven't already realized, TF2 and CS:S are very CPU demanding games. I was wondering if my T8300 is performing up to it's max...but seeing how you get roughly the same frame rates with your T7500, I guess it's normal.

 

Like I said, the CPU certainly can't be the issue. I think your frame rates are normal and you are probably overestimating the capabilities of the 8600GT. Not to say it is a bad card, but the frame rates you are getting are what I'd expect, and also what I've experienced, at least with the case of TF2.

BTW, this thread may be of interest to you:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=220027

 

*sigh*

Changing my graphic settings from High -> Low or Low -> High doesn't affect my fps at all in multiplayer. Neither does Overclocking or Underclocking my GPU. Doesn't that say enough?

 

It cant be the processor. What AA and AF are you using for CSS?

It could be the GPU drivers

 

Certainly does say something, not about the CPU though, drivers are a good idea to try as suggested above.

This is a bit of a strange situation. Do you have any non-online games that exhibit the same behavior?

 

I'm using 169.04 drivers. I don't really have any non-online games that exhibit this behaviour, but it's exactly the same as it was with my old computer.

Err....so why doesn't anyone think it's the CPU that's the bottleneck? I'm hitting 90 - 100% CPU usage on my first core while playing TF2.

 

CPU is never the bottleneck for gaming. Especially not a T8300 penryn.

Are you sure nothing else is hogging the CPU speed? Another program might be eating up the CPU

 

That's a rather sweeping statement, don't you think...? How about World in Conflict?

Anyway, with just IE7, Steam and Windows Live Messenger running (not signed in), my CPU usage is hopping between 6 - 24%. The only things hogging up my CPU usage are 'svc_host.exe', 'csrss.exe', 'nvsvc32.exe' and 'iexplore.exe' (IE7). This is kinda weird though....because my old AMD Athlon 1.8ghz usually showed between 0 - 8% CPU usage with IE7, STEAM & Windows Live Messenger open, but it had a lot more background stuff running such as Norton AV, Norton Ghost, Daemon Tools, Download Accelerator Plus.

 

If csrss.exe is hoggin up too much CPU then you might have a corrupted profile.

Try playing your games using a newly created Administrator profile

 

Just created a brand new profile, left it completely untouched and I ran CS:Source straight away. 1024x768, all settings high, 0x AA &AF. My fps was just as bad when I ran it on my old profile at 1440x900, all settings high, 4xAA & 16xAF.

My friend who's using a HP dv6700 with a T8300 & 8400M GS gets 2 - 3 times better fps than me. Arrgh....is there any way to check how if your processor is performing up to standard?

 

Counter Strike Source....i play that game like ..everyday.. Is Vertical Sync on? if it is then probably your framerates is maxed at 60fps...my average fps during stress test was 59 which is normal... post stress test of you ingame

 

Vertical Sync is off, but not like it matters anyway. It averages at about 40 fps. My average fps during the stress test was 110 fps. Ran it at least 10 times. CPU usage hits 60 - 90% on my first core, and 50 - 70% on my second core while playing CSS.

 

Vertical Sync is off, but not like it matters anyway. It averages at about 40 fps. My average fps during the stress test was 110 fps. Ran it at least 10 times. CPU usage hits 60 - 90% on my first core, and 50 - 70% on my second core while playing CSS. My fps averages over 100 when the server is full, and dips as more people enter. I'm really worried I got a faulty processor.

 

You're not on power saver, right?

 

I'm on A/C power with no battery inserted but to be honest, I have no idea how to edit my power saver settings to change my clock speeds. The only thing I can change by clicking on 'Power Options' under my Control Panel is stuff like, "How long before we switch off your display/HDD", "How long before System Standby", "What do you want us to do when you close the lid".

 

I think 110 fps is quite normal...for you

 

Nvm. i got 165 fps average while running stress test. No AA, No AF no Vertical.. i think thats wat u ran it on right? i got a better score...maybe you need to update ur drivers

 

- I ran it with 4xAA and 16xAF.
- I already said I updated my drivers to 169.04.

Also my point is that my fps is fine when playing alone (but who's retarded enough to do that?) or during stress tests, but when there're many people in the server my fps drops like mad. God, doesn't anyone read at all?

 

update to the 174xx version drivers then...169x is pretty old

 

Okay...I thought about what Deify said while taking a bath, about being on Power Saver...then I thought about what I've read about the CPU automaticly downclocking to half speed while on power saver mode. Downloaded RightMark CPU Clock Utility after I came out from my bath, ran it, and I do believe I found my problem.



I believe this picture here says that both my CPUs are running at only 1.2ghz, which is half of what it's supposed to be running at. Wow...Had my Macbook Pro for 10 days and I just realized it's only been running at half the clock speed. Anyone knows how do I adjust my clock speed from Windows XP? I don't really wish to keep this CPU clock utility. Just downloaded it to confirm my thoughts.

PS: For the last time...will you guys please quit talking about my GPU?

 

You could have just downloaded CPU-z. It shows everything you need to know about your cpu/mobo/bios/ram

Can you show a screenshot of the profile tab in RMclock?

If you just Idling then it 1.2ghz is correct. You have to stress the CPU out by opening alot of programs

 

Well, CS:S pushes the first core to 100% with the second at 20%, or the first at 60 - 90%, and the second at 40 - 70% depending on my settings. My clock speed still remains the same.

Anyway, I found out that Macbook Pros automaticly downclock even when on AC power only. It only goes to full performance with both AC power + battery. I put in my battery, clock speed went up to 2.4ghz even when idling, and my fps in both CS:S and TF2 soared. I'm getting 50 - 110 fps in CS:S now, and 30 - 80 fps in TF2.

 

i have ordered a asus f3 with same processor, have not received it yet but reading through all these post i have concluded that your concern is the t8300 processor which is fast enough to run most games . i have also seen the down clocking issue you mentioned . your processor usage is somewhat not6 acceptable .

1. do check when you are online what is the network usage in and out both with a third party software it could be a bug that is hogging you bandwidth .

2. check your bios that you are able to run your processor at full speed i think you can disable the CPU throttling down feature in bios as well ( some manufacturer provide it ).
i am not a very highly knowledgeable person but i think this may help

 

A couple of things to do:

Optimize Windows XP for dual-core processors:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=60416

Then, right-click on the desktop and go into the Nvidia Control Panel. Find the PowerMizer settings for your video card and make sure the sliders are all the way to the right for maximum performance.

Next, go into the Control Panel, switch to Classic View, double-click Power Options, and change it to Portable/Laptop.

Finally, download GPU-Z and check the clocks of your video card to make sure they are running at full speed.