Laptop power needs

I've seen this laptop Tongfang GM7MG0R has an RTX 3060 with 115W + 15W of dynamic boost.

Together with 45W of CPU, it amounts to 175 W.

However the laptop power adapter has 180W only, how is this enough for all the elements to function?

Can someone provide information on the safety/reliability of use on this?

 

175w<180w so yes

manufactures are not stupid

 

What about other components (Screen, Mobo, RAM, Disk, WiFi ) they need power too.
@ng80092a
My MSI (i7 10750H, RTX 3060 115+15W) came with 230W power adapter, 180W under full load may not be enough and laptop can drain battery.
Check with your seller, maybe they offer 230/240W replacement.

 

i think they throw all that into consideration..

i have been gaming on laptops for 20 years and not once has the power supply been short...they have laptops that drain battery at the same time and thats what we have here its not uncommon nor an issue as it drains slowly...my msi laptop used battery while gaming on ac...good for a 4 hour session..

if not...


no idea never seen this

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Alienware/comments/8j1jj8/battery_draining_while_plugged_in_when_playing/

yeah if you get a bigger power supply it looks like it wont also drain the battery

 

Dell is a habitual offender of their laptop power adapters not being able to fully power their notebooks under heavy load.

 

does this mean it would throttle? im learning too

 

Maybe. All I'm aware of off the top of my head is they also had to steal power from the battery to maintain performance under load. I guess eventually when the battery went to zero there might be power throttling. I'm just left wondering why they release them in that state. I suppose nearly all of their customers would not experience this, and also not even be aware of it when buying since they aren't by and large the niche community that consumes all these things. I mean It's gotta be not harming sales and profits or they wouldn't continually keep releasing products with this issue.

 

Many buying the brand name. If it works correctly or not doesn’t matter.

 

Tongfang does love their small power supplies. Mine came with a 230 and it gets very hot; enough so that an early demise wouldn't surprise in the slightest. Eluktronics swears the stock supply will hold up but my thinking is an old 330 I've got in the closet is the backup plan I'm fully expecting to implement.

 

most time when run GPU - is limited CPU "different PL limit - EC config"
or no D-gpu - full CPU

AC adapter + battery "25W" -top limit
AC run "recharging" but system load still discharging battery

PL4 or EC PL ? / gpu TDP / 30W system / "+ 11W rest of chip ?? or is this in PL4 " -calculation

230W system "MSI" -limit 255W before shutdown or CPU drop
I think that was the case ,,.,.or AC voltage drop "around 17V" for 19.5V adapter --shutdown

edit
AC upgrade ? - not helps all is locked in EC fw "MSI"

EDIT

 

nvm

 

I guess they don't think people buying gaming laptops would ever use all that power? Maybe just marketing afa the boost power, just spikes up to their rarely so they can market it that way. I've seen this referred to in vbios OC forums where they take a 90w gpu and unlock it up to 115w but only have an 180w-200w psu, it does drain battery while plugged in and heavy gaming and gets hot. To be expected when you override the manuf vbios/power budget. But this stock stuff claiming such a tight power budget seems like marketing to me.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDLaptops...w_rtx_2060_vbios_on_the_100w_version/gkpzy4j/

 

I did a quick goggle search and seems like this laptop only has a 180W power supply which makes no sense for that configuration. With a 130W RTX 3060 and a Intel i7-10870H it should at least use a 300W power supply or even a 250W one at the minimum. If they're concerned about the size of the power supply then just support USB-C charging so people who carry their laptop to work or school can leave their big power brick at home.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schen...aming-laptop-with-a-WQHD-display.541839.0.htm

As shown here at full load it goes over 180W easily.

 

The Eluk version comes with a 230; considering how hard they like to push the envelope with power that's telling. Realistically it's easy and relatively cheap to purchase a better supply if everything else meets the buying criteria. In that context alone it would be no different than buying a laptop and immediately upgrading the storage capacity or RAM. I say that context alone because I don't condone shipping laptops with inadequate supplies, that's crap.

The QHD factor needs to be considered as well: you can flood the GPU at 45 watts with mine, more than that is just extra heat. Not apples to apples as I've a 5800 but the same should apply here to some extent.

 

I also think most of the data readable on a laptop is FAKE
or what yours notebook and monitoring / setup ??

for my MSI -example
PL4 overdrive - 150w / power limit for 100W load ??
why ??

next shutdown reason "CPU heavy current limit in EC ??? "voltage limit" is identical vs my limits
,..,.using "static voltage for load" .,.,.,0,005V before shutdown
EC editor still not exist ??

or what is real HW limit ?? when the temperature is OK "tested complete system 50C MAX for load / 100W CPU / 125W GPU "
AC i have 230w and 330w - identical limit