Left 4 Dead 2 - Australian Censored version = LAME

We dont have classification for R+ or adult games here in Australia so explicit games cannot be sold or advertised here unless its cut down to a low violence version. This really messes up the game play and whole experience of the game

Watch:
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How am i supposed to play that.

 

Who knows. Could work.

 

hey at least you get better performance

 

Get someone to buy the l4d2 4 pack in the US and buy the game off them, thats what im doing. My friend did it and he said it works fine.

 

Yeah theres a guide to add the Gore in the demo but its just lame having to do it. Hopefully they have it for the full version too.

This sort of censorship also happens to GTA, Modern Warfare 2 and Borderlands

Idyllic: are you sure it works? because i have a feeling its gonna download the low violence version.

 

Do they speak Australian in that version?

 

Im sure. I was playing with my mate and he was telling me its full gore. I just asked him now and he said it has everything.

 

Censorships are lame. It doesn't work for the Catholics, the Puritans nor the Chinese.

 

The whole concept of censorship in a game like L4D is hilarious.

You're allowed to produce a game where you shoot people, but you're not allowed to show their corpses.

So I guess murder is fine, just don't look at the dude after you killed him.

 

This is why I sometimes hate Australia. I'm surprised that they patched GTA IV here though.

 

I thought that this game was completely banned in Australia.
http://kotaku.com/5361301/left-4-dead-2-banned-in-australia-[update]

 

They allowed it, on the condition that Valve censor it to hell and back, which they did.

Seriously, this is such a step backwards. I feel bad for you Aussies. Even the original Left 4 Dead had more gore than this...at least there, heads could still be shot off and bodies didn't disappear upon death.

I would be more than glad to make a gift purchase of L4D2 from the States to any Australians willing to PayPal me the money.

 

That's hilarious people are always talking about censorship in China when it happens in other countries too =P

 

Its like the grey blood of Mortal Kombat from back in the day

While gore is not what makes a game, when a game is so poorly censored it does kinda make it look awkward.

 

Why would they need to censor a game?
It's stupid.

 

Because Australia's censor board thinks that any game too intense for a 15 year old is too intense for their country, hence the lack of any 18+ classification. It would be like if the United States dropped the whole M rating, and made it so that no games could be any more intense than a T rating.

 

They need to turn on the TV and get real.

 

They could have made +18 only in Australia then?

 

It doesnt make sense because we can watch R rated movies and our consenting age for s3x is 16, driving at 17 and drinking at 18.. yet theres no age or way to play a silly computer game.

Anyway i joined up with a US group buy to avoid this..

 

The censored version is probably awesome for low-end pc's

 

is there a way to achieve this censoring in the demo?
my son wants to play but its too gory!!! OH NOO

 

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Video Games | | Left 4 Dead 2 Blood & Gore 2

XBox 360 | Playstation 3 | Nintendo Wii

 

My mate told me a way to get the gore version for the demo.

1. Open the 'steam_appid.txt' file in your 'left 4 dead 2 demo' folder.
2. Change the number to 510, make the file read only
3. Go into the 'left4dead2' folder
4. Open gameinfo.txt, change the number next to 'SteamAppId' to 510 as well, make the file read only
5. Start the game from the .exe in the game folder, not from steam
6. You got gore!!

I didnt notice any performance lags either.

 

To me the demo i played(here in America) Had NO where near this gore...weird. Maybe i wasnt paying attention? Or maybe the demo was more censored then full thing?

 

Ripping off the realism and goodness of the game...great.

 

How can a country censor a game like L4D2 but host sexcon in their country (Just saw an ad for it on G4 lol)

 

lolsauce^

yes i agree, video games is a big turnoff, i coem from australia, melbourne and all this + PAL restriction really make me wonder. my fav. country is AAAMERRYKER as the SC ppl say it.

love the food, love the ppl, love the gore, love the...everything. rest in peace australia, my homecountry.

 

So is it only going to be censored in the retail version? How could they exactly force the Steam download version to be censored?

 

Sorry in advance for the double post. It's a matter what you consider right and wrong. America was founded by religious fundamentalists whom saw their right to bear arms as completely necessary to preserve their freedoms and as well as defend early America from outside attack. This is seen in almost religious fervor because many people seen as conservative religious fundamentalists see the right to bear arms (weaponry) as necessary to their way of life, especially since the country was founded on such principles with direct ties to religious views. This practice is still enjoyed today here in the US, however the mentality of this country towards violence is quite deplorable as we almost don't care how violent a game or movie is since we have an obsession with guns. However, thanks to such religious thinking, something like adult material such as and what not is considered way out of line in comparison to violence, especially since so much of America's history is based in warfare. Apparently it's more Godly to kill someone than to see two people have here (even worse if they are not married! oh noes!). In Europe, it's the other way around, they are afraid of violence yet are quite comfortable with sexual material in comparison to us. Honestly, that kind of mentality to me is much better than one that pretty much glorifies/accepts extreme violence without too much opposition.

It's alot more complicated than my generalization. But it's alot like this:

America:
Violence = okay to a point
= Evil

Europe
Violence = Evil
= okay to a point

Australia (as it seems)
Violence = Evil
= okay to a point

God this country is so mentally screwed up.

 

Is this guy for real?

You obviously haven't read many history books.

 

Who me? >:/

My American history knowledge is pretty decent, and I think our history plays a big part of how we view weapons, war, violence, and it's sociological implications even up to today. Our government, the media, people themselves play up our fears and we in turn become even worse in how we view some things. People love dirty laundry. I'm not saying guns are bad and we shouldn't have violent video games, I'm just saying people need a change of mentality.

 

Ughhh, I don't want to turn this into a political thread.

Our history has been as violent as the Euoropean's history. Arguably, European history has been more violent, but that has little to do with America's difference in gun ownership. Our gun ownership liberties came about not because of religion, but because of urban concentration. Gun ownership was quite widespread in Europe even during the Napoleonic times.

Where do you think the practice of duels started?

Gun ownership is more widespread here because when the country was founded, it was still a frontier. Plus one of the first things the British did during occupation was seize the militia's equipment. It wasn't a religious reaction.

It was a reaction as a result of demographics.

The more liberal European morals of the bodily kind is actually a recent event. Even up until WWII, Europe was far more conservative than the US.
Then after WWII, something snapped....

But that's another time kiddies. To bed you go.

 

Hahahaha... Being an Aussie I can tell you it has nothing to do with our history, All that is stopping us from progressing as a country are the rules and laws that were haphazardly put in place by a quickly hashed up government in the early 1900's. the laws were revised in the late 70's/early 80's, but NO one is willing to change much in regards to our current views atm. Mostly due to some oft decision once upon a time where new rulings have to have a unanimous agreement across the board in all states with all heads of states. Funnily enough for an R18+ rating we had 11/12 heads agree with having one, but thats not enough agreement for us to put in a policy eh?

So yes L4d2 gets censored as we don't have an R18+ rating for games, However normally games (big AAA rated ones, gears of war 2 for example) get pushed under into an MA15+ rating, Which kiddies under 15 can get their hands on legally (if a parent buys it for thier kid, the kid can play it). But for anything thats Rated R18+ or X18+ the child cannot legally be exposed to the content (wether it be VIDEO, DVD anything..) untill they have reached the age of 18. Though I guess its not that bad, I mean I can play Left4Dead2 drunk (legally as our drinking age is 18) and the drunken effects'll make it seem gory.

However Hopefully valve'll released an optional patch/ official mod That'll enable the gore (and if they were smart they'd make a box that you'd have to tick before hand that says "are you over 18").

Our system ain't perfect, its far from flawless. But changes will happen overtime as we become more americanised, Though the joys of being multicultural are good. There still are no equal rights if your aboriginal

 

If there is no difference between a zombie video game where you chop the heads and limbs off zombies with a machete and a convention, I suggest some type of psychological help before something serious happens.

On topic: Shouldn't adults be allowed to choose what type of games they play, except for those that get the two confused like the above poster.

 

I mentioned the frontier aspects as well as self defense, but in regards today's American society, many of whom could be considered the conservative right in terms of political views see and imply the right to gun ownership as almost God-given since they'll interpret the founding of the country in religious merits (I said some, not everyone). That's what I was getting at. And yes I'm well aware of how the British treated American colonists, and how such treatment was reflected in the Bill of Rights. Right to Bear Arms, No Taxation Without Representation, No Forced Quartering, etc, etc.

In terms of Europe's history, yes it's been worse, but I was talking specifically about US history and it's willing view to violent media and where it might come from.

Pre-WW2 you have to remember, the US was more of an isolation-centric country, and much more so pre-WW1. Depending on your view of what conservative and liberal are you could see US isolationism as being extremely conservative or liberal (I actually hate those words). Europe's experience with the two world wars as well as the Cold War probably gave them a certain lack of taste for the possible powder keg it was and still is, hence I'm sure they are still mindful of that, especially the older generations with children today. In the US we are quite hyprocritical of how we view sexuality since we push suggestiveness all the time, yet in public many denounce it, especially in years past. When full on sexual relations are implied, things go really crazy, parents get all upset, thinking they're children are going to be lewd, crude, and irresponsible sexually. They refuse to teach them anything, the grown child begins to be curious, yet lacks any real practical perspective, and things just get ****ed up (so many more problems can happen down the line) especially in such a social society.

Then of course we could go into all the conspiracy theories in trying to take away rights to bear arms so the populace could be more easily controlled by a central/federal body. A little crazy, but certainly something to think about.

But all in all it comes down to I think the hypocrisy of seeing sexually related things in games as being unacceptable when people see violence all the time on TV, movies, games, etc. and it's okay. Parents seem pretty nonchalant now.

 

Yes, you would think adults should have the liberty to choose what games they want to play. And adults can interpret for themselves whether something is real or not. We can make our own responsible decisions and for the government to think otherwise is deplorable.

edit:

Seriously Mobius1aic, I think you are overreaching and treading into sociological topics you aren't fully versed in. Your theory, to put this nicely, just doesn't hold water. Crack open a history book from the 50's and you'll see what I'm getting at. But that's for another thread.

 

Well censoring sucks I feel sorry for you dudes.

 

I did that, but I can not play online anymore.

THIS BLOWS!!

 

That sticks bro.

 

all this crap makes australia look bad...

dont start this no equal rights crap... aborigional people get everything that anglo aussies get too...

but on topic, this is all to do with the new classification laws brought in by our last government(under PM John Howard, what a you know what) which scrapped the R rating for games yet it still aplies for movies...

and i do beleive the current government agree's that this is stupid but is too busy worring about getting the big bills passed through our senate (ie climate change etc etc)

and as others have said the easiest way is to buy from the US... its probs cheaper anyway...

 

Im so glad i can enjoy a "Unsensored" L4D 2.
But if they start sensoring games in Norway i would get so mad.

 

Everyone else on the server has to do the same thing. Instead of steam saying youre playing 'left 4 dead 2 demo', it says 'left 4 dead dedicated server'. I've played like 10 hours of it online with other people, and we had that cop uncommon common which means everyone had the gore version.

 

Well I can never find a game, and if I create one I just wait for hours alone in the lobby, is there anything I missed?

 

There are definatly fewer people using the '510 Trick' However at around 9.00pm QLD time theres usually a game or two running. Though the best way to play is LAN, My sister, 2 mates and I had a fair bit-o-fun untill 3 of us were incapacitated by a tank (then of course my sister ran for it shooting at the expert tank trying to survive... She ran outta Smg ammo Lol and had only a frypan. Yes we died from bleeding out but it was fun!!) gotta love the new tank, Incap then move to next target!!

 

It takes ages to find people, i just start the game alone and people start joining. Or you can add random people that are online from the games.on group or something and plead them to play with you like i did.