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    Lenovo Y600 coming soon ?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by skan1, Jan 3, 2014.

  1. skan1

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    Hi,

    Lenovo Y600 series coming out soon ?

    Seems like Lenovo website has list them down.

    lenovo1.png lenovo2.png lenovo3.png lenovo4.png lenovo5.png
     
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    that would be nice :) SLi of GTX 765M ?
     
  3. Undyingghost

    Undyingghost Notebook Evangelist

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    Well when we see GTX8xx then we can expect Y600, not before. Two months more or less...
     
  4. Albake21

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    I'm excited to see what Lenovo will be doing with this. I hope its the older brother of the Y510/Y500. It could be something completely different, like a non gaming laptop. One thing to notice is the "(SG)" I wonder if that's a new line of notebooks, maybe a gaming line?

    Also hopefully this will be revealed at CES 2014. :D
     
  5. Jobine

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    SG is for Singapore.

    1. Would require better cooling.
    2. SLI 765 = Single 780. Depending on the pricing this could be an alternative to the 1700$ Minimum for a Clevo/MSI Barebone with 780M.

    With CES 2014 approaching, i'd love to see what Lenovo leaks out. I hope they will finally design another chassis and not recycle the Y500 one again.
     
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    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It'd be nice to see Lenovo release a system with SLI 765M's. I'm willing to bet it will be very affordable, too.
     
  7. Jobine

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    Considering MXM editions of the 765M cost around 300$, plus the fact that there are 1000$ laptops with 765M (GE60/W350ST/W230ST) i can see the Y600 w/765 SLI priced very nicely at 1300$. However, a new, better ventilated chassis will be a must for this laptop. Also hopefully they can offer the T540p's 3K display as an optional upgrade. As it stands, you can get the T530's 95% gamut display in both the Y500 and Y510p, so i don't think it's impossible, but it will most likely add another 300-400$ to the cost. At 1600$, Lenovo is entering the high-end DTR segment, which at the moment is exclusively ruled by MSI, ASUS, Clevo and AW.
     
  8. Albake21

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    My question is... With the 800m series around the corner, why would Lenovo make a brand new laptop and put old components in it? My guess is that they will redesign the Y510 and add something like an sli 850m or 860m (just guessing). Also if I do recall Lenovo with their Y510/Y500 was actually one of the first notebooks to have a mid tier 700m series cards in it. Meaning why wouldn't they do it again with what ever the Y600 will be. From my experience with Lenovo, they have been great with keeping up on current tech.

    I will admit though, from what I've seen with SLI 765m's, that would be amazing if Lenovo could give us something like that.
     
  9. J.Dre

    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I doubt it's going to be a new gaming system, lol. I just thought it would be nice to add to the market.

    If I had to guess, I'd say it's probably some larger version of a business laptop. Lenovo is a popular brand among the business world.
     
  10. Jobine

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    I agree, but the Y600 would face the same core problem as the Y510p: SLI.

    While SLI has more brute force than a single card, it is heavily driver dependant, and thus is generally considered inferior to the single-card solution. For example, why would one buy a 765M SLI when 780M offers similar performance in a more stable configuration. And that's where the undercut comes in. If Lenovo can't use the SLI to it's advantage (via it's two current techniques of a small form factor via the ultrabay + price undercutting the competition) this will not be a desirable laptop. It's like comparing the Alienware 18 with 765M SLI against the Alienware 17 with 780M. They both cost the same, but Alienware 17 is the clear winner in this case.

    Not to mention Lenovo will need to start copying what Alienware did in their 18 inch laptop: an iGP button. With the press of a button, Alienware 18 owners can switch to the Intel graphics, giving them extended battery life. Right now, the Y510p does have decent (5-6 hour) battery life, but it requires the graphics ultrabay to be completely removed to work with Optimus technology, which makes the laptop feel gimmicky.

    Y series for a long time have not been touted as business nor gaming laptops, but as "multimedia" laptops, competing with other comparables such as the HP Envy , Inspiron SE (7000) (Formerly Dell Studio), and ASUS N series.
     
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    If it's ~ $1300 why bother when you can go with a 770m, or the 800m version of it which will likely be faster, and probably within 10% of an SLI 765m system?
     
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    GTX765m = GTX780m, so for 1300$ you can't go faster. I don't know about 800m though...
     
  13. Jobine

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    765 SLI is up to 60% faster. Keep dreaming. At 1300$ this would be perfect, providing the cooling solution is adequate.

    Computer Games on Laptop Graphic Cards - NotebookCheck.net Tech

    Oh, and 755 SLI in the current Y510p already beats 770M by like 4%.

    I'm ignoring 800 series for now because nothing is confirmed about them.
     
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    The single 770M will always be a better choice. I'd get the Gigabyte p25w any day before the y510p
     
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    The reason I would have to agree with this is because I have trouble with SLI all the time. The problem is that SLI can actually cause some lag/stuttering. The thing is that although I can get 60+ fps, it actually sometimes shows only 40fps. I see this a lot in games like Battlefield 3/4. The reason is because when two cards work together they sometimes start become out of sync with each other because one of the cards doesn't have enough power and loses being in parallel with the other card. This then causes a tear affect within the graphics. A big example of this is within Source games, (Counter strike, TF2, etc.) I sometimes need to actually disable the SLI and only use one card so I can get fully smooth FPS. Another big problem is that I am only working with tiny 750m's. Now although they are powerful when working together, they are still lower end cards trying to work together, and sometimes it becomes too difficult for them to handle the power of certain games. (lol I am making sound like my 750m's are humans)
     
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    You do realise the P25W costs 1.6x as much right?

    By all means if you can afford something better, then go for it. From what i believe Lenovo is aiming for lower end gaming laptops.

    With this said, the FPS difference between 770 and 765 is around 25%, however you can gain up to 60% from SLI. It's a trade-off.

    Anyways, as nice (or not nice) as the 765M SLI is, it's not even confirmed that the Y600 will host this card. AFAIK it could be a single-GPU laptop. Only the future will tell.
     
  17. hfm

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    The p25w is 1399 on newegg.. The y510p sli is $875?! With a 128GB SSD?
     
  18. Jobine

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    859$ for i5/SLI/FHD/1TB SSHD, newegg. 850x1.6 = 1374$. That's about right. I've seen the I7 version go for 900$ on newegg during boxing day.

    Also the P25W is on sale from it's normal 1600$ retail price.

    But we are derailing this thread, this is about the Y600.
     
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    Don't underestimate the power of "starting at $xxx". Interesting they mentioned that Y40 will get R9 M270 though. First mention of that card I've heard..
     
  21. Jobine

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    I'd say rebranded 8870M if anything. Don't underestimate Lenovo's discounting power.
     
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    Beautiful notebook. Now bring me a 17"+ display with 4K and I`ll buy it :)

    Always the small displays that get solid resolution. Freaking mobile phones have better res than my Alienware 18. Its messed up
     
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    True, but I don't get the drive to high resolution panels in mobile gaming platforms, the GPUs can't support these high resolutions at decent details & framerates. For non-gaming scenarios I think it's a good idea; maybe come Volta they'll be able to drive some of these ultra high resolutions - as long as games don't become more demanding as well!
     
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    You are right, mobile can`t do a ton of games on 4K. But I bet 780M is powerful enough to play several of pre 2013 games on 4K with pretty high settings.
    GT60 have 3K display and it got pretty good FPS in Bioshock Infinte and Dirt Showdown with high settings.
    Review: MSI GT60 2OD 3K IPS Edition - Laptop - HEXUS.net - Page 3

    With Maxwell just around the corner, the high end will do 4K in more games. You can decrease resolutions in games where you can`t play 4K too, lets say 1600p. Which is still much better than 1080p we are stuck with today. According to several GT60 3K owners, it still looks good on lower res than 3K. That display is also IPS btw, so its an amazing display.

    Non gaming is another example where 4K would be nice to have.

    Here is some pictures of games in 4K. They look amazing :)
    http://imgur.com/a/939zA

    I will do GTX 880MX in SLI in my next notebook so I would love a 4K display there.
     
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    I thought you'd only just got the 770M sli, you gotta get your moneys worth! ;-) Wait till Volta for x4 more performance (over 780M)! :) (Although hopefully if they do an 880MX die shrink Maxwell, then that will be twice the performance of your current!).
     
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    I buy new notebooks each year.

    Sell my old ones and lose a few hundred bucks each year. Totally worth it considering I get new hardware to play with and get to try different brands. This time I think I will get all my money back though since I got a pretty good deal on this Alienware 18 :)
     
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