Looking at Y530

How does it look? Will this be alright to play games such as league, banished, frostpunk? Mostly strategy games, maybe some FPS; along with some productivity work.

Nothing intensive so I think those specs won't produce too much heat or power. I opted out of i7, and 1050ti -- which are intensive and more demanding, right? I'm hoping that the heat/cooling management will last with those specs.

Thanks, cheers.

edit -- MIght need TI for 144hz screen.

 

How much extra is the 1050 Ti? It offers ~30 percent better 3D performance than the regular 1050. The Core i5 vs. i7 for gaming won't make a big difference. Not one that I'd pay much for, anyway.

You might look in the Dell Outlet for an Inspiron 7577 with a GTX 1060 ...much better GPU. Or go on Newegg and search for GTX 1060-equipped notebooks. Don't be afraid of an "older" CPU like the Core i5-7300H or Core i7-7700HQ, as the 8th gen chips use essentially the same technology.

Charles

 

Friend of mine checked it out recently in store and like most budget gaming laptops he really didn't like the included panel.

That said it's priced petty well.

 

The panel he was looking at was probably 250 nits, I plan 300 nits I think. Should be good enough.

Thanks for sharing.

 

I believe it is $117 extra (CAD) for 1050ti.

 

Yeah that one was not available yet and he wanted something immediately, also in Canada.

 

I highly recommend against this laptop. the color space coverage is poor, around 40 percent. but all hope is not lost. take a look at the lenovo 720s. it does power limit throttle a touch, but not overboard.

edit.

I agree with charles. Try to find a dell with a 1060, but if it has to be lenovo then the 720s is a better option than the y530

 

I would get y730 since it's made of aluminum material (more sturdy & durable), but it's sold out and out of stock unfortunately. Should I wait for more stock? I never owned Dell, but y-series is more professional-looking.

edit: never mind, y730 doesnt have numpads.

edit: looking at 720s, it does have numpad + aluminum chassis. Interesting, why do you say it's a better option than y530?

 

BTW, y530 does have 1060 option, just with 60hz. Isn't 144 hz better? What do you think? I'm no expert by any means but am learning/researching.

 

The refresh rate of the screen won't make much of a difference with a GTX 1050/Ti. Refresh rate is measured in Hertz (Hz). 60Hz means a display can show 60 complete frames per second. It's the minimum you would want but also the most you would need for a GTX 1050/Ti. Those GPUs are not likely to produce more than 60fps in most modern AAA games, so a 144Hz display is just marketing.
The response time of the display (milliseconds) will make more a difference for gaming. Lower is better, but that information may be hard to find, it's not usually advertised on notebook displays. If you know the panel you can look that up in Google, but notebooks are often sold with multiple panels and it's a lottery as to which one you'll get.
Either way I would concentrate more on image quality. A 60Hz IPS display is probably the best you will do, but the image quality will vary. It looks like some of the other posters in this thread have some suggestions around specific notebook models. You can always look through the various manufacturer subforums in this forum and browse/ask questions in the owner's lounge threads for a specific notebook if you want some real-world feedback.

Charles

 

Thank you Charles.

p.s. looking at noteb, looks like y530 has 9ms response time.

 

the 720s has 10 hour battery life and is thin and light.....all very good reasons to buy a laptop over a desktop. it doesnt thermal throttle and has a epic screen i think the coverage is over 70 percent. and the gpu isn't too shabby for 1080p gaming. 1050ti

 

Over 80 percent, I believe. 720s has 7th gen cpu, however....Charles mentioned that I shouldn't be too afraid of 7th gen cpu though. Wonder why.

 

How does it look for 720s?

• Processor: 7th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ Processor (2.80GHz 6MB)
• Operating System: Windows 10 Pro 64
• Display Type: 15.6" UHD IPS Glossy Multitouch (3840x2160) with integrated camera
• Memory: 16.0GB DDR4 2400MHz
• Hard Drive: 1TB PCIe SSD
• Optical Drive: No Optical Disc Drive
• Warranty: One year depot
• AC Adapter: 90 watt AC
• Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB
• Battery: 4 Cell 79 Watt Hour Li-Polymer
• Bluetooth: Bluetooth Version 4.1
• Fingerprint Reader: Fingerprint Reader
• Keyboard: Backlit English Keyboard
• Wireless: 802.11 AC(2x2)

~2k CAD total

edit: maybe 'multitouch' isn't the best idea, as i dont want to touch the screen and smear it with fingerprints

 

unless yourwatching 4k movies dont bother with 4k....otherwise im jealous tbh

ok well dont bother with 7700hq as it power limit throttles a touch...not a deal breaker to me. 4k is uselessunless you want better clairity for 4k movies. 1tb pcie your paying quite the premium when you could put in your own for a fraction of the price. i'd go with the base model and get the arorus 1070 thunderbolt egpu....you will be one happy camper
https://www.amazon.ca/Gigabyte-AORUS-Gaming-Graphic-GV-N1070IXEB-8GD/dp/B073PYMG3G

and spend the extra 200 on chicken nuggets

also sorry for triple posting, but I encourage smart descisions. base model for 1200 plus egpu and your set. 16gb ram will only make a difference with just cause 3 and insane multitasking. im talking like 30 tabs open on chrome.....but who does that....4k...if you want to game its like cutting your gpus power by 4. why do that...your eyes wont see it they just won't....7700hq at 2ghz vs 7300hq at 2ghz you wont see a difference.1tb pcie ok now thats something you can buy on your own...like 10 screws and plop it in.....not rocket science....if your slow then youtube it....1050ti is perfect for 1080p gaming. if you want to game for 5 years at high settings on recent games then the egpu dock will ensure that...2000/5 years is 400 dollars per year...and tbh it will probably be able to do medium or low for 10....i have a 7670m and can game on low ad its 6 years old and wasnt even a flagship gpu when it realeased...mid range....1050ti is upper mid range and the 1070 smokes 1080p...if i had 2000 id either find a used gs65 or get the 720s and save the money for other things...not really a huge difference between 1060 and 1050ti 40 percent at best meaning ultra vs high.....and who cares when you don't see the bump in visuals

 

Intel hasn't changed its manufacturing process to any significant degree in some time now. The 6th, 7th, 8th, and now 9th gen chips are all based on a 14nm process. Intel has slightly improved the process over time, allowing them to boost power efficiency and operating frequency. But the gains are incremental at best, and generally won't be noticeable from generation to generation. The Core i7-7700HQ is a powerful CPU for just about any usage. The newer Core i7-8750H has two additional cores but isn't 50 percent faster; games typically don't take advantage of more than four cores to begin with.

Charles

 

IMO the keyboard without the numpad is a better option (unless you like playing old roguelikes with a numpad). The keyboard is actually centered properly instead of offset. The Y730 looks like a fantastic machine and a decent price. I love that they actually have proper arrow keys instead of the half-height up/dn ones with full height left/right. I hate it when the up key isn't offtset above the left/right keys. IMO the Y730 is the machine to beat in this class. It even has a 4-lane TB3 port I think..

 

Yes, I was looking at y730 as well. I also heard rumors that y730 will come with 1060 in the future. But do I really need 1060? I plan for some light gaming, nothing too demanding or intensive, so...

 

your lucky charles chimed in. he is one of the more intelligent people iv'e come across and extremely smart when it comes to computer knowledge. I don't know much about 8th gen but if charles says it doesn't matter then it likely doesn't. and yes the y730 is a great machine. more money than the 720s and less battery life. i guess it comes down to do you want high framerates in new games at max settings and poor batterylife while tinkering around on a couch. or do you want high framerates with some lowered settings. and great battery life. another major differance is the looks. 720s looks professional and the y730 looks over the top.

 

Really? Thank you again Charles I appreciate looking out. In terms of framerate, i do believe i want high/smooth framerates with some low/med settings with great battery life and great color accuracy (sRGB, right?). I'm still learning about laptops because I've been told that 90% of laptops are pretty crappy on market overall so you have to make a good decision somehow

I've been recommended mech-15 g2 so i've created thread about it in 'other manufacturers' cateogry

 

I´m also looking to buy the Legion Y730 17" ...but if only it has the GTX 1060 i would be totally sure...as I also work with 3D demanding software (CAD, Rhino, Revit, 3D Studio), and I would like to play at high/ultra settings for 4-5 years more. I dont game a lot, just sometimes AC-Odyssey, FIFA 19, Far Cry, etc., but would be nice to have the power in the next years, and not just 1 or 2.

Here in Europe it comes with a 144Hz screen, so I expect the display quality/sRGB to be better too...
http://psref.lenovo.com/Product/Lenovo_Laptops/Lenovo_Legion_Y730_17

I also heard about it coming soon with the GTX 1060 (logical, as the Y530 and the older Y720 offers it), but after asking the Lenovo EU customer service, they still know nothing about it... have you maybe asked the US customer service?

The other option is that they wait until the new GTX 2060 comes out (1Q 2019), and weirdly skip the GTX 1060...