Low demanding games

I was wondering about this but what are all of the games today are low demanding? I know WoW, StarCraft 2 and RuneScape are low demanding games but I don't know all of the games that are low demanding today.

 

Well plenty of low fidelity indie games and some AAA game scale well on lower end machines. That being said there are plenty of older games which pretty much run on my machine available and are still plenty of fun. I just started playing Unreal Tournament 1999, and I'm having more fun with it than most games I've played in recent years.

 

Well I am talking about games that you install like WoW or so and not like flash games or windows games. What are the games that are low demanding though? Are only older ones are considered that? Or are all games today are basically not low demanding and only few are like WoW?

 

Well, WoT will run on a Bay-Trail Atom fairly well (low settings, around 24 fps, 768p).

 

giving everyone an idea of what spec you have will certainly help.

 

Well my notebook is a Toshiba and it has a AMD E1-2100 processor with 12GB or DDR3 PC3-12800 ram and a AMD Radeon HD 8210 and has 6GB video memory. Also has a 500GB HDD and Windows 8.1. It originally came with only 4GB of ram but I upgraded to 12GB.


I thought originally that any notebooks today will be able to play most games out there but I don't know what I can play on this notebook. It was a $280 notebook since I' am in a tight budget.

 

here is a list of older games you might be able to play http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...game-ask-about-game-recommendations-here.html

i know nothing about amd cards but if you copy AMD Radeon HD 8210 into the top left box here Computer Games on Laptop Graphic Cards - NotebookCheck.net Tech it will give an idea of how bad it is for the latest games.

your card is number 403 on this list Mobile Graphics Cards - Benchmark List - NotebookCheck.net Tech

 

Just takes some finessing, dropping resolution and detail.

See here:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...d-a6-1450-radeon-8250-gaming-performance.html

Otherwise there's lots of older games that are great that still work well with low performing hardware.

 

Well I wonder if it did help a lot that I upgraded the ram to 12GB I would assume it will play a lot better on games having it on 12GB instead of 4GB right? I think 12GB is a lot of ram for today.


But I am surprised that all of todays computers aren't good enough to play games. I thought by now since they really got advanced enough that even budget computers can play games that are sold today. I know it may not be able to play on highest settings but at least on lowest will run well.

 

when you think laptop prices can vary from £200/$340 to £6000/$10,100 there is a lot in between that isnt taken into consideration.
dedicated graphics cards can cost between £300-£500 alone.
ram is quite cheap now and will help with various things but ram and low end graphics cards wont help much for gaming on their own.
ive seen quite a few members on here saying the same as you that theve upgraded their ram to 8gb or 12gb but they are only using a 32bit operating system which can only see and use a max of 3.1gb of the ram. they then upgrade their operating system to 64bit and can use all the ram but then we find out they still only have intel intergrated graphics which takes its shared power from the mother board and then they expect to play the latest released AAA games which sadly will never happen.

 

So even if I upgraded to 16GB ram it won't help much? Also is it possible to play any games with the lowest res and settings on my notebook? Or will it only play games that are like older ones? I still don't know if even low end computers that are made today can play on the lowest res and settings and get around 20 fps or so. I really mean the lowest settings and res with nothing turned on on the graphics settings in games.

 

RAM doesn't really do much as far as gaming is concerned. About the most significant benefit you could see from a RAM upgrade would be to *slightly* boost the iGPU's performance by using higher-speed RAM (say, 1866MHz or faster). But raw capacity does nothing.

 

I just find it actually hard to believe that my new computer can't even play any of the games today when this computer is only a week old since I got it. Can it play Guild Wars 2? I was interested in that game since I play WoW alot and also then I don't have to pay money each month to play anymore. But you guys made it sound like even the lowest settings it won't play but were you maybe saying that if you played on med or high settings it won't play well?

Also if ram doesn't help on games at all then why can my notebook can go upto 16GB? What will benefit using 16GB of ram then if it's not for games apparently? I thought more ram will play better but maybe more ram is for something else than gaming.

 

You have to keep in mind that while computers are getting more powerful with each passing year, games are getting more and more demanding as well. While today's computer is several orders more powerful than something from the '90s (for example), today's games are a hell of a lot more graphical, realistic, etc. than a game from that same period. Those extra details require more compute power.

That said, I'm not too familiar with GW2, so I can't say much on how it'd perform on whatever hardware you have in mind.

 

So having 16GB or so even 12GB is not for gaming at all right? Since you said it won't make any difference. So what is having ram around 16GB for then? Like is it for running programs that aren't games?

 

Valve games. I can run any of them on my Bay Trail tablet, so it should work for you as well.

 

Did you even see my post? Tomb Raider, Borderlands, Dead Space, Dishonored...

 

Having more than 8GB of RAM can be useful if you're working with some heavy-duty scientific software, or huge CAD models, huge audio/video/photo projects, some computer science applications, etc. But, as far as the Average Joe is concerned, they're no practical point in having more than 8GB at the moment (it'll probably increase within a few years, but for the near future I don't see much point).

The main specs to pay attention to for gaming would be the GPU (obvious), CPU (mostly obvious), and display (the higher the resolution and higher the overall quality, the better the visual experience).

 

When you said that 8GB or more is for heavy stuff do you mean having even just 8GB is way more than enough for gaming? Since I remember in 2011 people said 4GB ram was more than enough for games and having 8GB or more is for heavy stuff like you said. Since if 4GB ram is enough then I can just return the 8GB and just use 4GB since games don't use more than that. I might not even need more than 4GB I thought that more than ram the better games perform even games today don't use more than 4GB. But you guys said that having a lot of ram doesn't make difference for games so I probley should return it.

Is what people have said to me like on other computer forums was wrong and you will need more than 4GB? Or for just gaming today you just need 4GB and if you have 8GB or more it's for the heavy stuff like the video and photo. If it's still the same let me know since I haven't talked to tech guys since 2011 and I had an older notebook before but I got a new one a week agao and wanted to know if it's the same today.

I thought people in here would know if having only 4GB of ram is enough for just gaming or doing normal still like watching youtube or listening to music, etc. I just remember that around 2011 people like the geek squad said that games won't ever use more than around 2GB so having 4GB is more than enough unless I do the stuff you guys said about video editing and stuff. Are there people here that know if 4GB is enough for today if you just do gaming and not any heavy stuff? Since no one is answering so far I can only think that 4GB is enough today and the geek squad and other techs were right. I think I should return the 8GB then right?

I know this question is off topic but just was wondering. I might have to make a new topic about this.

 

I'd say that 4GB is enough for today for most games. Doesn't really matter all that much since when you do actually need more RAM, most laptops come with two DIMM slots so upgrading later to 8GB is pretty simple.

Personally, I'd never pay attention to anything a Geek Squad emplyee says. All of them are a bunch of incompetent idiots when it comes to technology.

 

Will there ever be a time when 4GB will no longer work on games? Or will games never use 4GB or more? But I guess then having 12GB is way too much for games since games won't even use 4GB or more. I won't be doing any heavy stuff so I probley don't even need 8GB of ram. I guess it's still the same today as back in 2011. Should I return the 8GB stick and just keep the 4GB that came with the machine or will there come a time in maybe 3 years that games will need 4GB or more? Does most gamers on this forums have 4GB of ram unless they are into heavy video editing and stuff? Or are most people here do photo editing and video editing any stuff?

 

Never say never. It's just that, at least today, most games tend to rely more on the VRAM of the GPU rather than general system RAM (unless you're running on an integrated GPU only, but even then those are limited to 6GB at most iirc).

 

Actually someone said on a different forums that games today don't have a limit around 2GB like they use to but is that true? Also they said the more the ram the better it is and can use more than 4GB. If so then why did you say that games can run on 4GB? Or was the other guy on a different forums not right that games today don't have a limit like they use to back in 2011? If they are right then I can keep the 12GB or even upgrade it to 16GB to help it's best. But then you guys did say that having a ton of ram doesn't help much so I' am confused.


How much ram do you need for today to play games in general is what I want to know. Will 4GB really be enough for today like it was in 2011? Or do I need like 8GB today for games at least? I just don't know if things have changed a lot in games that now if they use more than 2GB and really use like 4GB or maybe even more.

 

I never heard of games ever having any sort of arbitrary limit on them, like 2GB max. You could make a game that takes up 32GB of RAM if you like (not sure why anyone would, but it's possible). I think the guy you're referring to is talking more about the limitations of a 32-bit OS compared to a 64-bit OS, which isn't relevant anymore these days since everything's 64-bit now.

If you're really, really worried about RAM, go ahead and get 8GB. 4GB would work for most modern games iirc, though 8GB is pretty much going to cover all cases of gaming today. And as said eariler, RAM is very, very easy to upgrade on yoru own, so if you ever feel like you need 16GB of RAM, you can simply order more RAM and install it in your computer.

 

So when you said 8GB will cover all cases for games do you mean that it's best to have 8GB of ram for games today and 4GB is just enough to run any games but not it's best? All I know is that games in 2010 or 2011 people mostly said that 4GB was best to have to play games and 8GB or more is overkill for just games.

But if 8GB is what's the best amount to have for games then it's good I have 12GB since then even in the future I will be ok. I guess my main question was is it best to have 4GB of ram for gaming or 8GB of ram today? Back in 2010 or 2011 people said it's best to have 4GB but just didn't know if today is the same. But if you say that it covers everything with 8GB maybe it means that now it's best to have 8GB.

 

It's 2014 now. 2010/2011 is eons ago in the technology world, so not much of what applied then applies now. Anyway, your VPU and CPU will be long outdated by the time 12GB of RAM becomes relevant in the gaming world.

 

nope, just like my links above

all your above posts are about ram. 4gb,8gb,12gb blah blah blah
dont you understand that the part that is in the computer that help with gaming is the DEDICATED GRAPHICS CARD which is used purely for graphics. you could have 64gb ram but without the graphics card it wont help. your laptop doesnt have a dedicated graphics card and it cant be upgraded.

bottom line. send your laptop back and save up for one that has a dedicated graphics card from nvidia or ati.
you dont need a top of the range graphics card but it will sure help playing games for the next few years even though it wont help on new release titles.

just to give you an idea of what is recommended to get just to play older games.
1) fill out this form explaining what you want http://forum.notebookreview.com/wha...ould-i-buy-form-must-read-before-posting.html

2) post the filled out form on this page and await the experts advice What Notebook Should I Buy? - A Laptop Buyers Guide

 

Ummm, I posted nothing about RAM. I posted YouTube video links showing the OP GPU running some modern games (Tomb Raider, Borderlands, Dishonored, Dead Space, etc) and how to do it. Read again: http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...s/751611-low-demanding-games.html#post9644241

As an example:
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Reposted here
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I think you may be confusing me as the OP.

 

i was reffering to the original poster WingNut about the ram

and the qutoe of your post was that he most probably didnt look at my links either

 

OH, sorry. I was like ??? ???

:/

 

no worry's mate. :thumbsup:

 

RAM is much more important for things like editing large media files and running VMs. Games still run well with 8GB or less.

And even though your comp is a week old or means nothing. The single most important piece of the puzzle for games is the GPU. Then secondary to that is the CPU. For most cases anyway. Computers entering the market today still run the gamut from weak to powerful GPUs, your just have to do your research and get the best for your needs in your budget. Stronger GPU typically sacrifices battery life and costs more. The units that are built well that can get decent battery life and game well are typically expensive, especially if they have been engineered to be thin and light.

It's a constant game of compromises.