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    Lowest FRPs

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by BoneCrusher, Jan 22, 2008.

  1. BoneCrusher

    BoneCrusher Notebook Geek

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    hey, I was just wondering a while ago after looking at screen shots of games on maxed and high settings. So i was wondering what usually is the lowest FRPs for game play to be smooth (or somewhat smooth)

    thxs,
    Rany :)
     
  2. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Anything above 40 fps is smooooooth. Preferably above 60 so that you won`t ever see lag.
     
  3. BoneCrusher

    BoneCrusher Notebook Geek

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    was looking at nfs pro street maxed so i wondered if 35 would have been acceptable
     
  4. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    my computer is crap specs below so anything between 15-25 is good for me prefer 20-25 though :)
     
  5. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    In a fast paced game, you need over 50 to feel smooth motion. I`m a quake3 addict and nothing below 75 works for me, because you move veeeery fast in that game.
    But Crysis for example, with postprocessing on high seems smooth at over 20 fps.
     
  6. crash

    crash NBR Assassin

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    40 and above is (generally) silky smooth, although 25-40 is (mostly) still playable.
     
  7. johnyd

    johnyd Notebook Guru

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    As long as it doesnt go below the 25 mark as a minimum most games will be plenty smooth. I used to play nfs underground 2 at 15 or so and it was playable but not "smooth". Bioshock is fine at around 30. But some games arent smooth at 40 odd. It really depends on the game as to the frame rate needed. But mostly over 40 will be like silk.
     
  8. comper

    comper Notebook Consultant

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    30fps is fine for me. The only thing that really matters to me is the consistency of the framerate as the constant changing of it is what gives the laggy feeling most of the time.
     
  9. BoneCrusher

    BoneCrusher Notebook Geek

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    how can 20fps be smoth? :confused:
     
  10. ZERO88

    ZERO88 Notebook Consultant

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    The reality of the whole FPS thing is generally how and what the person perceives as smooth and playable. If 20 works for one person it might no work for the next, 30, 40, etc..and vice versa.

    For general gaming anything above 25ish is usually fine. At least in my experiences it is. You DO NOT need 60+ fps to enjoy a game and those that say other wise are usually boastful idiots that like to brag because they have "top gpu card".

    Another thing I've noticed to take into consideration is the type of game being played. There is games that are made for high end cards but will still run perfectly fine on lower end ones at lower settings with out a hitch, someone mentioned this on another topic but games like UT3, HL2 etc..are all very well balanced games capable of being played on a decent gpu. But then there is games that wont cut a lower end gpu any slack.

    It all depends really.
     
  11. BoneCrusher

    BoneCrusher Notebook Geek

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    aite thxs alot........but ppl still vote
     
  12. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    It also depends on the game.

    First Person Shooters generally need to stay above 25.
    RTS and RPGs above 20.
    Minesweeper above 6.

    [​IMG]
     
  13. BoneCrusher

    BoneCrusher Notebook Geek

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    what about racing games like nfs pro street and test drive unlimited?
     
  14. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    Those would fall into the first category, since reaction time is key.
     
  15. XPS1330

    XPS1330 Notebook Deity

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    Coming from someone that tried to play BioShock and UT3 on a X3100, 20FPS is smooth enough for me.
     
  16. BoneCrusher

    BoneCrusher Notebook Geek

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    lol kk, aite i see
     
  17. ZERO88

    ZERO88 Notebook Consultant

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    May I ask which games you are playing? What driver are using? Sounds like the T5250 in your machine thats holding you back from a decent gaming experience. Take in note that the 8600m GS is a capable card in the lower end of the midrange cards. You can get very good performance out it with the rite setup.

    I get good performance out of it with my setup. (in my sig).
     
  18. ZERO88

    ZERO88 Notebook Consultant

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    Exactly I agree.
     
  19. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    ok it alot i play bioshock, crysis, blacksite area 51, cod4, cod2, painkiler overdose, doom3, quake wars, ff7, ff8, hellgate london, hotwheels lol, kane and lynch, hitman blood money, gears of war, ut3 timeshift,

    [​IMG]
     
  20. BoneCrusher

    BoneCrusher Notebook Geek

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    and ur running a 1.5ghz dual core,, is the game experience nice?
     
  21. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    its decent would u like some fps?
    im not keeping this computer long though im getting a 8800 as soon as i recover from buying this laptop
     
  22. BoneCrusher

    BoneCrusher Notebook Geek

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    i would love to know the fps u get for each, if thats possible
     
  23. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    all res on 1024x768
    pain killer overdose 20-30
    kane and lynch 15-20
    hot wheels beat taht 10-15
    unreal 15-20
    crysis 15-25
    gears of war 20-25
     
  24. BoneCrusher

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    and the game play is enjoyable?
     
  25. BoneCrusher

    BoneCrusher Notebook Geek

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    those frames seem pretty low
     
  26. KGann

    KGann NBR Themesong Writer

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    That's odd... I get better FPS all around.
     
  27. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    well u have gddr3 i have ddr2
    and the lowest game i fargot to mention is blacksite area 5 all setting low 8-13 fps
     
  28. KGann

    KGann NBR Themesong Writer

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    But I have an 8400GT.
     
  29. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    my cpu is also a 1.5 what is your 3dmark06
    and what is your driver
     
  30. KGann

    KGann NBR Themesong Writer

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    My 3DMark06 with 2690 un-overclocked. I use 169.09. Now I am overclocked, but I haven't ran 3DMark again.
     
  31. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    my 3dmark06 is next to the my os's below and my clock is 500\400
     
  32. KGann

    KGann NBR Themesong Writer

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    Hmm... that is strange. My factory clocks are 450/600, but I am now OC'd to 550/650.
     
  33. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    hp is crap
    [​IMG]
     
  34. KGann

    KGann NBR Themesong Writer

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    Haha. Hope your next laptop works for you.
     
  35. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    i tried to tweak it with rivatuner but it ending up worst
     
  36. KGann

    KGann NBR Themesong Writer

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    Wow. Did you get lower 3DMark scores?
     
  37. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    of course but i posted my highest but in 3dmark the cpu has a real low score i have just ran the test about 1 hours ago i still have the page open
     
  38. KGann

    KGann NBR Themesong Writer

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    Weird Rivatuner made it worse. I saw a good 8FPS boost in CoD4 and UT3 when overclocking. I just run it at 1024x768, all extra high, and always get a steady 40+FPS.
     
  39. dondadah88

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    what were your settings
     
  40. KGann

    KGann NBR Themesong Writer

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    I OC'd to 550/650 from 450/600. It worked out really well.
     
  41. deattan

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    It's really matter of what you've used to.
    My friend seems to play games at even as low as 15 fps and say's it's fine.
    Me, myself with my cs addiction awhile back seem to puke under 25-30.
     
  42. ZERO88

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    "Dondadah" your computer is not "crap" get a grip man. I cant stand when people have a so called bad experience with a specific company and they end up bashing it for as long as they live just cause they where not satisfied with the product.

    Nothing about the HP dv9500t is "crap" except for the 1.5ghz you have. Thats your boltneck. Thats very low end for the games your running on it. So please speak for your self.
     
  43. KGann

    KGann NBR Themesong Writer

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    Well, obviously he isn't happy with it. It scores lower than my 8400GT in benchmarking, which shouldn't be right. The 8600GS should score a tiny bit higher than the 8400GT.

    If he thinks it's crap, it's his right. He has just as much a right to bash it as you do to defend it. ;)
     
  44. HavoK

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    I voted 40fps because thats representative of an average frame rate I would like to attain - minimum.

    But if you meant at what level a game would be actually playable in general terms, I would have voted for 30.
     
  45. Harleyquin07

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    Depends on the game, play the UT and Quake series and most gamers will chafe at anything lower than 40fps. Play NWN, NWN2 and the KOTOR series and 20+fps should be more than sufficient for most players.
     
  46. BoneCrusher

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    Any one played nfs pro street with settings maxed or high? was the game play smooth
     
  47. usapatriot

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    I'd say that anything more than 24fps is smooth to me.
     
  48. BoneCrusher

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    Well that should be fine after gaming so long on my Intel 915GMA....i could have played F.E.A.R but with everything low...FPS were very low but it was somewhat playable, if i played in multi player i usually would get owned since system was real slow
     
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    I find my performance in racing games tends to fall when the FPS starts going below 35 FPS average. Sometimes that means turning settings down, but in my experience it's worth it for the faster FPS and hence better racing performance. That's why I play in 640x400 on my video card from 1998 - more detailed pixels don't make up for reaction time (FPS).

    In other genres it depends considerable, RTS for example far fewer are needed. But racing is pretty dependent on being able to react quickly, for obvious reasons.
     
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