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    MOH 2010 SP & MP Impressions

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by spradhan01, Oct 12, 2010.

  1. spradhan01

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    I was thinking to get one copy but wanted to see the reviews first.
    Anyway how is the SP in this game? I read somehwhere that this game lasts like 10 hrs of SP. Also, how similar is it to BC2 regardless of maps?
    And what about MP? I was kind of engaged in the open beta but was lacking team play.
     
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    Medal of Honor? It's already released? o_o I thought it's released this weekend unless you meant the beta
     
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    It was due today. 10/12/10

    Some new MP gameplays

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    Combat Mission MP (Aka Rush) PC Needs serious help!

    I noticed that this type of game style for MOH really
    seems to be biased in favor of the defenders. With attackers only having
    the possibility of 1 smoke grenade each and a little cover, but not much.

    I dont see this style of play lasting long for those who care about
    K/D or even fun in general. I played through the airplane graveyard
    last night and it was a massacre (our team got hammered) by the defenders.

    The few smoke grenades we had did little to help the unbalanced gameplay.
    It took only a few seconds for the snipers on the defenders to mass 4 airstrikes and we
    were probably at a .2 k/d ratio at that point.

    If you are reading this, try it out, but I bet you avoid it. The defenders will love it. The attackers will
    be dropping off your servers fast.

    Last.. please dont followup post by saying "your team just doesnt know how to blah blah blah". The best team
    in the world is going to have an incredibly tough time if your resources are that limited.

    Just my .02

    StevenX
     
  5. spradhan01

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    Ok...I just got the game.
    Just went through the intro of the game with everything maxed out.
    FPS is decent.
    Some screenshots-
     

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    An organized coordinated effort usually helps. The problem is that for an offensive team to succeed, you need more assault guys, more people throwing smoke, etc. If half of your offensive team is sniping in the rear, the offensive team will probably not win. If your team stays true to the objective and doesn't worry about their kd ratio, that's when the game becomes fun.
     
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    @Kipcoo, give the combat mode a try. You'll quickly see what I mean. It does nothing but make you angry on the attacking side. The kids are smart enough to understand it already as they quickly try to switch teams back to defend when the match is up and they have to attack. If not, must drop off.

    StevenX
     
  9. jeff0078

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    Still downloading the game via EA (lol), but I noticed the same thing during the open beta. I was urging guys to move up and not be afraid of dying. I just felt like the only one that was trying to make a push. Guess it just makes it feel that much better when you finally do finish all of the attacker objectives, which did happen in a game or two I played. :cool:
     
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    I must say Graphics wise, its not that great!
    I must MW2 was more detailed than this.
     
  11. E.D.U.

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    Now I tend not to completely trust IGN reviews anymore, but when I saw that they gave the game a 6.0 my first gut reaction was "Ouch." I was never going to get the game anyway, because the 4-day beta felt too BC2-like for me, and opponents were too hard to distinguish against the terrain, but a 6.0!!! I will say that the beta seemed well optimized for the PC as I could run it at native res. On the other hand, Eurogamer gave the game an 8. Jeez...I pity those on the fence about getting this one :eek:. To those who actually enjoy it, enjoy away. Different strokes for different folks :).
     
  12. Nsxrrmaniac

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    Why all the hate? The previous poster was saying how reviews are unreliable these days.

    I just bought it off steam and am hoping to get some fun out of it at school.
     
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    Thank you for at least reading and understanding what I said. Enjoy your game.
     
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    He still didn't actually read or listen to the review, [​IMG]

    And I'm actually enjoying the game alot the SP looks cool with the nightvision added on, and MP is fun as well.
     
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    I think everyone who has been reviewing it has been trying to compare it to MW2, I know that's the reason a lot of my friends didn't buy it is because it didn't "feel" like MW2.

    I played the beta and for the most part liked it. I do agree that certain maps tend to be more "optimized" for either attackers or defenders. The other thing that really annoyed me too was that they changed the controls between single player and multiplayer version, mainly the knife. It was like either V or X to knife and I forgot which one was which, but the fact that it was different between the versions was annoying. (I'm too lazy to map it to a new key :))
     
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    I will give some more details... I was the first out of my gamestop with it. PC runs great, on fully high, both sp and mp. SP for an hour and MP for about 4 hours.
    SP "the good"
    -Good graphics
    -pretty decent action
    -nice weapons
    SP "the bad"
    -linear storyline
    -standard AI enemies (meaning they are in the same spots everytime)

    MP "the good"
    -graphics look great
    -optimized for pc well
    -guns look and sound great
    -sounds are amazing to me echoing off walls, bridges, mountains, etc...
    -much less "tubing" which is good. (yes I know I am guilty of this in my beta vid but hey...In my defense I was on the game for 2 minutes and was getting killed from every direction in seconds...)
    MP "the bad"
    -Maps look good but are very small. They tend to "funnel"
    -combat missions are almost impossible with mini-map enabled for atackers.
    -not enough smoke grenades or cover items

    just my .02

    StevenX
     
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    Is it just me or this game makes me a bit dizzy? I mean BFBC2 didn't and MW2 and a lot of other FPS games don't make me dizzy, this does and Half-Life 2 single player. @_@
     
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    Just played the single player campaign for a bit, and I found it to be fun.
     
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    The MP isn't too bad but it seems it is a little too easy to get killed with one shot, even from far away. Also if you figure out where the enemy spawn is going to be, it is too easy to spawn camp.
    I'll play this till BC2 puts out new maps then go back to it probably
     
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    The graphics are not as good as MW2? From the videos they look better don't they? I'm still waiting for BF1943 for PC.
     
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    I must say graphics suck for MOH SP.
    I wasn't really expecting that. MW2 wins by par.
     
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    Guys is that me or this game isnt that all optimized?

    Running 1280x720 maxed out, vsync and AA enabled, it goes from 60 to 45.

    Is that me or?
     
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    AA eats your performance :p
     
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    Yeah thats for sure, and it seems to me that is another Mafia 2 epic fail AA trick.
    Didnt see any BIG improvements with AA on or OFF.
     
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    AA would probably only make a noticable difference if you're playing on low resolutions ._. At higher resolutions the jagged edges aren't that noticable unless you have an extremely good eyesight
     
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    Well, I blew through the campaign in about 5 hours over 2 days. While it was short, I thought it was better than any other military FPS campaign I've played to date. It had a decent variety of playable scenarios, the storyline was by far more realistic and better than MW and BFBC. There was no anti-American spin on the story like in MW2. Graphics were outstanding! Sound quality and diaglogue was great. Not an overabundance of swearing like in BFBC2 (which was fun at times but how many F-Bombs can you really drop in one game), but enough to immerse you in the danger.

    The only drawback to the SP was it was way too short! The linear storyline was actually a plus in my opinion. You got to know the operators and it was the closest I've ever felt to being in the action in a game.

    Can't speak to the MP yet. Punkbuster is apparently prohibiting me from joining any server matches. I installed it, but it doesn't seem to have installed correctly, which I expected because it sucks. I'm guessing it is because of PB installed from BCBF2. As soon as I can get PB working, I can't wait to checkout the MP. If anyone has any ideas, I'd love to hear them. Really don't want to speak with PB support.

    I'd give the single player a 9/10. Really enjoyed it and it was good to see that they gave a lot of credit to Servicemen at the end. Powerfull stuff! Guess I'll have to wait on the MP, but sadly, I don't think it will be as good as BFBC2, even with all of its problems.
     
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    From the few vids I've watched, it seems the gun-sights don't jump with the gun's recoil... do you guys find you're shooting lines of bullets, or are there recoil effects?
     
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    Wow. So I played the MP. Had to uninstall Punkbuster from my BFBC2 install. What a difference. SP was 9/10. MP so far is 5/10. This game brings nothing new to the table as far as multiplayer goes. It's MW2 rebranded. Graphics are average. No spotting. Totally different controls from the single player. I loved the holding right mouse to to bring up scope/iron sights in SP. Not the same in MP. Not a very good weapon selection at all in MP. No Barrett? Upgrades even look weak. No prone, no peak around corners. 3 classes that are very average with little customization. Maps are small. This game falls well short of BFBC2 in the MP arena. Just my opinion, but I'm very dissapointed in the MP. Guess I'll go back to BFBC2 MP.
     
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    I thought the SP was amazing, I haven't touched the multiplayer, but I just can't believe IGN, 6.0? Wow, and MW2 somehow got 9.0 for rehashing the same game? Really can't trust the reviews anymore, even the hard butts over at Gamespot gave it a 7.5.

    Graphics and sounds were all pretty amazing too, looks better than MW2 to me.
     
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    Game is fun. CPU is hitting like 78% utilization at times!

    This is the best mp shooter out. Can't comment on the SP as I've been only playing MP.

    Also server pings don't seem to show up when browsing servers.

    To force vsync I have to set the value for vsync, to vsync=true in the settings.ini file located in your documents/eagames/moh folder. Then I just make the file read only so it doesn't revert back to the old settings.

    Other gripes...Uhhh...campers? Man is there a lot of campers.

    I've seen quite a few people get auto banned by PB for aimbots. So of course cheaters are prevalent in the game already.

    The best game mode is combat mission.

    Oh and sniping is a bit too easy for me that it's not even fun.

    Team Killers...what the heck...there should be a "mirrored damage" type of deal.

    Someone should post some kind of tweaks to optimize hit boxes or whatever. Just seems like some times shots won't register.

    I've played mw2, bc2, etc. and I think MOH is a lot more fun. Explosions, sounds, seem better than MW2. MW2 is more of an arcade style shooter, and that's fun if your into that. MOH is like a hardcore realistic version of MW2 with better graphics and dedicated servers.
     
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    Well I got to play a few missions at a friends house, and I have very mixed opinions.

    On the one hand, I don't like the game very much. I really don't know what it is, but I just don't. I think it's just the combination of BFBC2 and MW2 that rubs me the wrong way. I was one of the biggest fans when I saw the first trailer come out, but I just can't get into it.

    But on the other hand, some little part of me wants to get it. But I think that I have come to the conclusion that I want it, only because it's a Medal of Honor game, and I have been a fanboy of MoH from the start.

    I do like some aspects of the game, but not enough to actually go out and buy it. So it looks like I will still be waiting for Black Ops to come out, and continue to play Halo Reach in the meantime.
     
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    I play fully maxed out 1920x1200 with AA enabled without a sweat on my XPS M1730 both Single Player and Multiplayer.
     
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    Beat the SP yesterday evening... it was rather boring. Multiplayer is really bad. No recoil, small maps, camping, overall blandness all around.

    It really seems this game was rushed together and their was no identity of what type of game it was, so it took the worst aspects of MW2 & BC2 and made MOH.

    It really is annoying because the first MOH was amazing -- i played the MP in that game for 3 or 4 years or more.

    In short: Wait for Black Ops.
     
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    I regret buying MoH. Its not a TERRIBLE game, but its not worth $60 either. I think it should be repriced around $29.99 for the limited edition. Its just not that great. EA stock dropped by over $1 since it was released, that tells you something >.>
     
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    after seeing all this , i'll skip untill its price drops.. i got BC2 for 13 quid which was a great deal 6 months after it came out... this game should be the same after 3 months.
     
  36. KipCoo

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    Not sure about that. The worst aspects of MW2 was no dedicated servers and the lame matchmaking system, which MOH certainly does not have.

    The game is a cross between bc2 and mw2. It's like MW2 because it has killstreaks, weapon classes, and customizations. These are things I liked about MW2 personally. However the killstreaks aren't so overwhelming like they are in mw2 which keeps balance in the game. Also once you get to different tier levels of a certain class in multiplayer, you get a new skin for that class which is definitely unique.

    Some of the maps are very big. If you play the combat mission maps, they are big.

    Overall, it's good. Should tie me over until flashpoint. Going to skip blackops since I've already played it in the form of cod2, cod3, cod4, mw2, and now...mw3, lol. I do think once you play this game you will skip blackops.
     
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    I agree with your sentiment there (that Black Ops is to be skipped) but honestly, CoD4 was so much different than CoD 1/2/3... It, for all intensive purposes, was the rebirth of CoD.

    Anyway, I'm fine with BFBC2, maybe I'll pick up the Vietnam expansion rather than MoH.
     
  38. naticus

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    What I meant by my post was:

    1) they removed recoil-- much like MW2-- no gun but the ak47 has any recoil that need to be dealt with

    2)They implemented the Frostbite Engine -- this engine, like mose DICE engine has abysmal hit registration-- so they remedy the problem with enormous hit boxes, and as previously mentioned, recoilless weapons.

    This is very much a console game at heart.
     
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    recoil is fine. its a nice change of pace from BFBC2. A little bit more bullet spread would be nice but other than that im having a blast in MP.
     
  40. jeff0078

    jeff0078 Notebook Consultant

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    My biggest gripe is the hit boxes. There is hardly any incentive in taking cover as you'll continue to get hit a second or two after the fact. Might as well go out in a blaze of glory.
     
  41. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    I gotta say, I really like call of duty, since call of duty 4. I also liked MW2 (a lot, until the m203+frag+RPG+sleight of hand+danger close suicide insanity tactics started cropping up everywhere)

    I didn't like bad company 2. I disliked the mechanics of the guns firing for some reason, it seemed weird. Also, m203's have this sort of "floaty" behavior that I dislike. I want bullets to do a lot of damage. I felt like the assault rifles in BC2 were sort of like the assault rifle in Halo 1...

    That said, I liked bad company 2 WAY more than medal of honor. Medal of Honor just made me consider buying BC2. I'm waiting for Battlefield 3 at this point, and I'm not giving activision any more money if I can find any excuse not to... absolutely skipping black ops, just in spite of Bobby Kotick. Everyone should be doing the same thing. He is so evil.

    Honestly, black ops doesn't look that great... I want less ridiculous explosives, not more. Think about it. You are playing a game that is supposed to be a (surrealistic) armed military combat simulation. And then, in this simulation, instead of controlling a soldier with a gun and running around and trying to flank your enemies and move as a group, you literally drive a remote control car. That's black ops. I wan't the experience to pull you in and give you a sense of the scale of things, of weight, and remote controlled car explosives don't add to that experience in my opinion.

    Last thought- both BC2 and MoH have relatively bland textures and WAY OVERDO this weird lighting effect that doesn't look very good (it makes everything look spacey and dreamy and washed out- do you guys know the effect I mean?)
     
  42. Prydeless

    Prydeless Stupid is

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    BLOOM Baby!

    I have it turned off in BC2 and low when I played the MoH betas.
     
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    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    well i play on high and literally max settings on full HD and BC2's textures aren't bad but not as good as MW2... can't have everything but both games are excellent..
     
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    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    This game is gonna have a life 1/4 of BC2's since that's already dieing thanks to DICE's amazing support.
     
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    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    It´s only the Multiplayer part that has the high bloom. Single Player uses the Unreal 3 Engine meanwhile Multiplayer uses the Frost Bite engine.
     
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    KipCoo Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't see why you would like bc2 over moh. I'm guessing you didn't buy moh. They are very similar except MOH has better graphics, weapon customizations, killstreaks, and just more. I had BC2 but sold it and got this game. I do like MOH more than BC2 or MW2. Explosions, sounds, models, etc. are better, and the combat mission maps are huge.

    I agree, black ops with remote controlled cars is pretty lame.
     
  47. frozenarcticguy

    frozenarcticguy Notebook Deity

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    After playing MoH MP I don't care for it either. You can get killed by a pistol or shotgun from too far away with a single shot. Plus if you know where the spawn is going to be, you can camp.
     
  48. be77solo

    be77solo pc's and planes

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    personally, I'm really enjoying the MOH MP... I'm no where near "hardcore" as many of you guys would describe yourself, and I die, A LOT, but none the less, it's very enjoyable. For the record though, I did also enjoy BC2, along with every call of duty game released back from the original one in WWII.

    My current favorite game mode is when we are defending or attacking the downed helicopter in the mountains... that's just a fun map/experience.
     
  49. unacceptable

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    MoH SP was meh at best. I was fun while it lasted but it was nothing memorable. I'm sure it was closer to real life than others but it just didn't get me excited or give me the urge to continue. I really felt as though I was playing through it just to try my hand at it in tier 1 later on. 5.5/10 at best, imo.

    MoH MP is average. It can be fun and it can be very annoying, it has been previously mentioned that the hit boxes are poorly done. Spawn camping is wayyy to easy. The lack of scoped recoil is really frustrating when up against players using semi-auto snipers. Characters blend too well with the environment. Having said all of that, the game can be really fun. The level design is creative (But a little imbalanced). When working with a good team the game changes completely. 6/10

    At the end of the day its a decent game, no huge flaws or major issues, but I don't think it's worth the $$ right now. Knowing what I know now, I would give it a pass until the price drop but by then Black ops will be out.
     
  50. darkloki

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    I guess if black ops is MW2, or better, with dedicated servers it'll trump everything, that seems to the mood apparently
     
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