MSFS 2020 Coming soon August

Well.. It's unlocked.. I'm stuck here ...

 

This might be the first sim I'll buy. Looks awesome.

This guy is hilarious. Just ran into this video randomly today:

 

Try launching in admin mode.

 

I never posted, just restarted the game and it started downloading the 90GB.. went to bed hah

 

So, who's playing? How's the performance?

 

Still downloading... about half way through. Interweb speed is particularly slow today.

 

I was unable to try it this morning, done for the day so going in now!

 

So, the auto-generated settings put me at this configuration:


It wasn't bad, but it got a little sluggish at times.

As far as game play and controls.. using the keyboard+mouse is HOT GARBAGE. XBox One gamepad was way better. I got through the first couple training sessions with no issue. However, the LANDING training session is not great. First, when she's talking about "runway number", you can't see the runway number AT ALL at that time. It's just a confusing tutorial. I've tried it twice now and crashed before getting to the runway both times as I use the landing config for the flaps (F8) when it warns me to, but I can't keep the speed going long enough to get to the runway. I'm guessing I'm not pointing downward enough. It's a tough one, especially if you are like me and haven't played a flight sim in a long time, and really never SERIOUSLY played a flight sim at all, just casually here and there. I feel like the tutorial could be better in the landing sense.

One thing that kind of sucks is that you have to use the mouse to move the throttle, there's no mapped controls for it on the gamepad. And if there's keyboard keys for it it doesn't call them out, it just says move the throttle, which ok I can use the mouse pointer and do that. OH as well, when you're doing the "gauges" tutorial, it tells you to use a key combination to zoom in on the controls, but then you can't see all the gauges it's telling you about because the tachometer is on the other side of the console/dahsboard.

Outside of the odd tutorial making you assume things and the little bit of sluggishness once in a while with performance at the default setting it gave me (it's actually good most of the time.. fine for a FS), it's not bad. I could see it being a lot of fun once I spend enough time to learn things.

I do think it based my config setting on the 2070 alone and didn't take 15W CPU into account.. lol.. I'll probably go down on the settings to get a some smoothness.

 

With my xbox one controller, throttle is on buttons A and B. Press and hold A to throttle up and B to push it in. I only tried in a little Cessna and it works fine so far.

 

It would have been nice if in the tutorial it said to do that instead of just "throttle to max", I was left like OK.. how do I do that? Took me a bit to realize I could actually move the control on the console with the mouse. I shouldn't have to go digging through the control settings menus when the tutorial mostly gives you direct button combos. Just saying the tutorials are not very well done. I'll stop beating the horse here.

EDIT: so I tried it again and this time not using the landing flaps (80%?) until I was almost to the runway, came in a tad hot but it seemed ok even though it was warning me about something.. I have no idea how you would ever actually make it to the runway hitting the flaps at 80% when they pop the warning up. Seems like cutting it too close unless i'm just not constantly attending to it enough. I know squat about nuance in flying but it seems like if i'd have to constantly tend to it that much it's not as simple as it should be and prone to breakage.

 

OK more horse beating is about to happen...

1. Performance didn't improve going to the GFE mostly low/medium settings. It actually feels like it's more sluggish now than before with a bunch of setting dialed down. Might as well crank it back up. Looking at the CPU stats in game bar CPU is like 60-70% most of the time. Perhaps it soaks up PCI bandwidth and my 4x connection to eGPU is limiting? Hard to say I have no comparison. It performs acceptably for the most part but it's a little off putting to have the sluggishness. It doesn't SEEM like it looks anywhere near good enough on low to be this choppy compared to other open world games. I know apples to oranges a little with their real world streaming tech.

2. Got up to the Navigation tutorial where it has you going to the park and then to another airport and timing the legs of the trip. Seems sane enough to have to real world plan the trip and estimate legs for fuel reasons etc.. I was way behind schedule to the park with the golf course (Park name escapes me), I was at full throttle the whole time and I climbed even a little higher than they asked before i got to the timer start. Not sure how I could have went any faster to get there on time according to the plan that pops up.. 2) it was super hard to see the highway to follow it for the next part, had to use the outside camera. Again nowhere near on time at full throttle for this leg 3) got to the waypoints to approach the final airport (Flagstaff?) Trying to recall. here's where I just flat out couldn't figure out what they wanted by the audio prompts and couldn't even see the airport. I followed the spoken directions I thought, but again hit the flaps when instructed to full, can't even try to get anywhere after that and I can't even see the airport. Ended up crashing into the ground trying to realign after falling too far trying not to stall. It might be I just don't quite know what I'm doing yet, but I knew where the airport was I could probably just get there easier without them, Maybe I'd be hitting flaps later than I should or something and not doing an approach like a proper control tower would require, but I have ZERO idea how anywould woul be able to follow their audio prompts and waypoints to get to that airport and land safely.

3) load times are ATROCIOUS, I don't know if this is just the Windows Store version with their encryption etc.. or if the Steam version has the same issue. Just that alone is adding to the frustration factor.

My end position right now is I'm glad I got it for free with gamepass and didn't fork any money out for it separately. I think it'll be more fun maybe just free flying around and not trying to "by the book" everything. The tutorials are super frustrating to follow, I definitely seem to do better when I don't follow them at all, and they don't even tell me all the controls I need to use (A and B for throttle) which is the main point of them IMO.




EDIT: ok.. tried it again, found the airport this time. I think part of this is that they say go to "cruising altitude" and they never said exactly what that is. I guess I'm supposed to be at the same altitude as the waypoints markers? ANyway... so I get pretty far this time and they say cut the engines to idle etc..etc.. The plane falls WAY too fast .. I had to throttle back up and use the outside camera to get to the runway.. then of course I get a decent landing (it seems like hitting the flaps really late on approach is just as good.. why go so slow so long on approach especially when the plane just can't keep the altitude they want with the instructions?!) The plane fell like a rock, there's no way I could keep the altitude of the waypoints with the instructions they give, unless I'm missing something.. I need to go watch some YT videos of others following their advice and doing it correctly.

Of course, I do land and she says I wasn't supposed to land there.. I guess I picked the wrong runway? It only looked like there was one runway..

 

I wish I would have watched this dude before.. he didn't follow their instructions at all! He didn't even cut the engine until right at the end.. supposed to be at idle way up in the air where she said it?!?! Wow... and this guys is an actual licensed pilot. Ok.. I feel much better now that I know i'm not crazy or highly unskilled.

 

last spam.. I just did the navigation tutorial again, nailed it. Not sure what the tutorial voice prompts are on about, they're garbage.

 

Depending on the skill settings you may need to get the radials and use them to line up on the runway until you get visual. When on final it's best to get on glide slope as soon as possible but at that point you'll be on throttle. Remember when slow and at higher angles of attack such as when in landing configuration you're going to be using the throttle to control altitude and the stick/yoke to adjust speed, it takes some getting used to before it becomes second nature. There are a lot of variables depending on the aircraft but there can be some wild swings in power settings when getting close, in the approach, and on final. In an F18 you can be at idle while your dumping your speed and altitude and as you get slower and lower you start feeding the throttle back in. By the time your on approach you have a chunk of throttle back in and on glide slope with full flaps in landing configuration you'll be using most of your throttle, 80 percent or more even though you're only making 130 knots through the air. That's obviously a high performance aircraft but you see the same dynamic in a 170; you'll dump your energy and then you're going to be getting back in the throttle to maintain your set air speed after you've reached your target altitude for the start of the approach, with the flaps out your going to be dirty and needing more throttle yet to maintain your airspeed. You'll pull that back out a little bit as you actually get on glide slope and won't dump it until wheels down.

Sounds like the training is leading you a little astray.

 

Anyone know if there is a way to lower the rudder controls sensitivity?

I've had good luck so far with an xbox one controller, set up deadzones and stick movement to have pretty low sensitivity but the rudder (shoulder triggers) is killing me. It's like on/off, I can't keep it straight for take off and it makes the rudder useless for coordinated turns in the air.

Is there a way to lower the shoulder triggers sensitivity maybe from windows?

 

Not that I'm aware of. I just try to very lightly use them, they definitely need to try to do a better job of gradually increasing the movement instead of it being so quick out of the gate. Like if they had it so movement sensitivity was low at first and gradually increased in a non-linear way so you could do those fine adjustments easily.

 

Talk around the web is saying this is the new Crysis.

 

Pretty much. It might get better when they switch to DX12, word is it can only use 4 cores right now.

It's still playing well enough for a flight sim for me. A little choppy at times, but when I think about what they've achieved here it's pretty miraculous. It will only get better optimization over time as they get data from this launch.

I actually put myself in my small home town airport and flew over my childhood house and a friends house that lived across town. Crazy....

 

Yep, same here!


This is how I found a hilarious map error/bug. They've put a huge hangar/house thing right smack dab at the end of a runway.

 

Yes, you can change the sensitivity of any of the controls. Under options, controls, find the control and check sensitivity - if you set the sensitivity to a - number (e.g., -35), the control response will become nonlinear - less sensitivity early, and increasing with control displacement. There is a great set of instructional videos by Squirrel on Youtube. The first two are all about setting up FS. Very useful.

 

Does anyone else find this game to be overboard graphics wise...i found my home and it's the right height and colour..they went too far with the graphics it looks like a picture aka photorealistic...im not complaining but where will games go next...cant really top a game that looks as good as a picture..hmm

 

It's ironic that we'll be back to where we started; gameplay will be king again.

 

My childhood home doesn't look super great, but it's got trees in the vicinity. It property itself looks fine from up high, it was about 2 acres in a long rectangle around lakes and trees, but it looks like garbage way down close. I'm by no means complaining, what IS there is pretty amazing considering it's a random unassuming area in a small town.

I'm having a lot of fun with FS 2020 so far. Definitely worth the price I've been paying for GamePass for this alone not to mention a lot of the other games I've gotten to play.

 

The procedural buildings it generated for my neighborhood aren't even close to reality.

 

I don't know bro but it's even got the picture of the magnolia outside our place..10 out of 10 for accuracy

 

I always avoided drugs...joking but do you have anything else to test as it's a picture of earth and not an opinion.

Edit. You do realize it's based off pictures right and not randomly generated...kinda makes you look like your a troll

 

Looks like game community is already in progress making default A320neo full fidelity. Already implemented some ECAM pages. Can't wait to see it grow!



https://github.com/wpine215/msfs-a320neo
https://trello.com/b/z3jimJLq/study-level-a320neo

 

That looks interesting and you gotta love mods...imagine mods on a GTA v level

 

https://fselite.net/previews/atsimulations-previews-cri-cri-for-msfs/

Finally, Cri-Cri is confirmed for MSFS. The plane we all been waiting for!

 

ohhhhhh that looks sick....this game in unreal

and this is for the trolls complaining about a finally pc optimised game.

 

this isn't that fun to play but it is a neat tech demo!~

 

offtopic but here's something maybe of interest for you guys... sooo apparently USAF just randomly unveiled a brand-new fighter jet that's been under secret development...

 

thanks for that

but I just got msfs 2020 installed finally and I have no idea how on earth people complain....its a masterpiece

 

now that cyberpunk is out, it's looking like MSFS 2020 is the new king of graphics for quite some time at least until truly next gen games come out

 

great news guys.

VR support was added and its looking great

(203) MSFS 2020 Virtual Reality First Look & Initial Thoughts! - YouTube

 

why did this thread die....msfs 2020 is easily the best looking/playing game available