MXM Reaching its Goal?

I've noticed that some of the newer notebooks which have come out have the "standard" MXM technology. One of the new Clevos, I believe, was said to have MXM. And then there is a plethora of older notebooks with the MXM technology. I was wondering if anybody else has noticed the trend, and believes that MXM will finally reach its goal for becoming the standard?

--Romanian

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I sure hope that DX10 mobiles will have MXM

 

There are few notebooks with it, too few actually.
Its a nice feature, but until some large companies start widely adopting it, which I don't see happening since that could potentially hurt renewing notebook sales, it won't get very far. Its just so hard to find a notebook with it, let alone new cards for them. I think it is a fantastic idea though.

 

In the news say the Asus C90S is coming and it's got standard MXM as well. It's a 15.4 inch laptop with a "D-Door design" which allows pretty much everything to be upgradable. Check out this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=111448

 

I agree, I doubt MXM will ever be mainstream as notebook sales would somewhat plumment if people could simply update their graphics card among other things.

 

the z84j has standard mxm as well

 

Notebook sales would probably suffer yea...but I don't think it would hurt it too much. Although you could stick in a new card, a model isn't going to necessarily have the ventilation or power supply needed for a more powerful card. So people would still end up being limited in that sense and would have to upgrade their whole chassis...i.e. a new notebook.

 

That's where external GPU comes into play, but till now, there are little technology to it. IMO, external GPU would work better than MXM...

 

Asus have stated that using the newly specified external PCIE cable they want to create a full 16x bus with support for using the internal monitor connections in a new model.

 

News from Cebit: the new Clevo has MXM Type IV... Whatever that the hell may be.

 

I was hoping you would know what that was, Ice-Tea. Does nVidia have any information of this type of is it just something that Clevo decided to come up.

 

LOL. I have not had a chance to take a look at the Clevo MXM IV in person yet, but when the first unit (or demo unit) is shipped, I'll be there to take it apart to take a look at the modular videocards.

I really think that Clevo engineers designed another generation of their proprietary modular videocards, which probably will lead the way for high-end DX10 cards. From their past notebooks, I doubt that this will be a standard MXM module.

 

Regardless of what MXM, it was never meant to be a standard like PCIe which allows consumers to purchase off-the-shelf GPUs for self upgrading... MXM differs from maker to maker.

 

It does differ, but that was because manufacturers of the notebooks decided to make slight alterations to it, so that they could exchaneg the graphics in their systems. I think the Clevo MXM type will just be one of their own, like Gophn mentioned.

 

I'm more interested to see what kind asus uses in their new models. With any luck they will be of a standard design and end up widely available (I'm drooling over the c90 already, conroe and mxm in a 15.4", I think I know what I'm taking to collage)

 

I really don't think that notebook sales would plummet if MXM became more standard. First of all, this would only apply to laptops with dedicated graphics, which hold a much smaller percentage of the market than integrated laptops already. On top of that, I think a lot of people on here overestimate the amount of people that would actually upgrade their computers. It's easy to forget that there are a lot of people that don't know as much as the people on here. The laptop market might take a hit, but it would really be on the high end spectrum more than anything else, which is pretty much the smallest market already.

 

What the hell? Where did you read that? And what do they mean by using the "newly specified" external PCIE cable...? I hope that I could use it in 10 years if I purchase a notebook this summer

I was thinking about notebook sales. As many have mentioned, I'm sure that they would just slightly drop, and not plummet. I mean, the period of time within which people change graphics cards is normally longer than the life span of the notebook (keyboard flexes, LCD loses brightness, trackpad wears, internal fatigue, etc). External GPUs are more dangerous. At least to the "gaming notebooks". Who the hell would buy a $4000 Alienware when they could up their system to the same level with an external GPU?

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Anyone know what the ATI Lasso external GPU (run through 2 USB 2.0 ports) speed would be compared to ASUS XG?

 

I'm not surprised, it's a logical step for Asus to take now that their XG Station has launched. If this idea doesn't get squashed or forgotten, we could see some pretty interesting peripherals for notebooks in the future.

 

I think it's kind of dumb to say that notebook manufacturers would avoid MXM because the ability of owners to upgrade notebook hardware could affect future sales. If that was true, desktop manufacturers would do everything in their power to make sure their hardware setup was proprietary. Are desktop manufacturers sunk because their systems are upgradeable? Absolutely not.

 

Well

contrary to what it says on ice teas site

mxm only mean upgradeable gpu, designed by nvidia. Nothing in anything ever written says mxm means a generic format between models.

mxm 4 does not suggest anything about it being compatible with anything but a clevo.


this is somantics but the whole site is incorrect, it terms mxm as the cards that are in the uniwills and are compatible with a few other makes. Cross compatible showing the format it lists. but the mxm word doesnt mean that at all.

 

I understand the points made by stamer but if more manufacturers embraced the standard MXM, then upgradeability between notebooks can be achieved. Uniwill which builds many notebooks uses MXM in some of them, because they totally support the idea of upgradeable graphics. It allows them to be able to use the same chassis for some of their notebooks, which means when newer technology does release, they can implement it in a shorter amount of time. Not many other manufacturers support the format because, they believe it will cost more and sales will fall.

Some manufacurers will take the MXM standard, and then make alteration so that some or most of their range of notebooks can achieve interchangeable graphics, however, cards cannot be exhanged from manufacturer to manuacturer. This is because of the initial change in the standard. The problem can probably be illiminated by using the MXM standard that was supposed to be used previously.

 

I was at CEBIT yesterday. I'll write an article on it soon, but the Clevo 'MXM' is a mezzanine card, just like before. As such it will not be compatible with other MXM cards.

More MXM news shortly.

 

Iv seen pics of the new Geforce Go 8600 and 8500 go by MSI and they are in MXM format. From what iv read, the 8600 will wipe the floor with the 7900 and is obviously a huge step above the 7600.. Theyve already been implemented into notebooks to test.. IF it were to happen that all versions (unlikely) were to be in MXM form, it would be a great thing i believe..