Mafia II

Demo is out on steam, around 1gb with 10minutes of play time but timer patch already exist , I'm downloading it atm, at 70% . As far as i can see on other forums, optimisation is great, of course without physx...

Full will be out 27. august so what's your expectations 'bout this game?


http://store.steampowered.com/app/50130/

 

Another title that recommends a Quad Core Processor. I wonder how well it makes use of them. I am downloading the Demo right now so thanks for the headsup. It will be interesting to see performance, CPU percentage utilisation and gameplay.

 

I only played about 10 mins of it before I have to go to work. It played well even on my ATI 5650 and looks pretty good. I love the feel of it, feels like an instant classic. Driving felt like I was drunk at first, but like most games I'm sure you get used to it. Shooting and moving felt natural and the use of cover works wonders.(Far better than GTA 4 cover system)

The very quick time I had with the demo left a nice impression. I'm going to buy the game, just don't know if I'll be getting it for the Xbox or PC.

(Going to see how the Xbox version plays/looks later today.)

 

I hope the driving is a bit less realistic this time.

 

Performance is astounding (again, without Physx though).

I can max it out at 1920x1080 on my laptop and it never dips below 30 bar one massive explosion in the middle.

Game looks decent, if not spectacular (at least when you're outside, the interior sections fare better), but the gunplay feels great with the shots having a real impact to them and decent particle effects/destruction, even without the dedicated Physx. Driving is also really solid and I'm hopeful for the full game later this month.

Performance may have edged out my purchase decision for this instead of Kane and Lynch 2 (the latter didn't perform great on my rig despite being a 60FPS game on consoles).

 

They have a 'realistic' setting and 'normal' mode as options for the driving. I haven't used realistic yet but normal lets me handbrake and drift around every corner while still giving the cars a nice, weighty, period feel.

 

I too played the demo earlier, and I think it's a great game. However, it would seem that the whole PhysX aspect has taken a backseat when it comes to optimization. For me, the game does not dip below 40 FPS at 1920x1200 with AA + AF off without PhysX. PhysX enabled well... it's a slideshow. It's an average of 20FPS. I think Nvidia needs to do some more work on this game with drivers and PhysX optimization, because other PhysX games such as Batman: AA I could play with everything on + PhysX on High.

Oh for reference, my spec:

C2Q Q9650 @ 3.0GHz
2x 9800m GTX SLi
4GB RAM

Note: SLi worked fine using 258.96 drivers, to my surprise.

 

is Mafia I worth it? or should I go straight to this one?

 

If you pre purchase Mafia 2 on Steam you get Mafia I for free. Loved the old one, but if memory serves correct, the graphics were pretty bad.(May be better on PC though.)

 

Pre-ordered the game for PC with release-day delivery from Amazon. Too bad though it's for my desktop (don't have a lappy capable of running anything good).

Will have to check out the demo here in a bit to get some impressions, but if it's anything like its predecessor, am expecting a great story and engrossing atmosphere (the music really helped with that on the first game...).

 

My specs

330m 512MB overclocked
i5 2.53GHZ CPU
4 gigs ddr3 ram

awful awful performance on this demo. I mean i can barely run it at @ low. looks to be like another GTA 4 for us laptop owners. I was really looking forward to this game, but its going to be a few years before I can play it...I think. Tried turning the res down from macbook pro's native 1200p screen and it looks particualry awful, worse than the orginal mafia, almost like a DS game @ 1200 x800 and fps was still not good

 

You expected to play games well on mac? I don't know that much about gpu, but isn't 330m near the bottom in the Mafia II's system requirement?

 

Ouch 330M. And honestly, don't tell me you tried GTAIV on that.

 

i am not a gamer anymore and would never purchase a pc, especially based on graphical power... but i expect to at least run all games on medium or a even low. 330m maxe s all my games (or closely approaches max settings for sc2) i know theese are not demanding but they look perfect, and are some of the best games ever made...L4D, L4D2, Fallout 3, Mass Effect 1 + 2, As well as borderlands, unreal 3, starcraft 2, etc. I have no problems other than with poorly optimized games like gta 4, crysis, and now mafia 2. what a disappointment from the first game which ran on anything even integrated at the time. Reguardless the 330m is a great card based on it's rank on the vga charts, and throw in the i5 cpu and ram this really should have been able to run on low at least... like i said im not a hardcore gamer and don't mind waiting a couple years till a mobile mac can max this game.

 

Just tried the demo, looks good and with Physx off the FPS never drop below 60.
With SLI disable and using the second GPU as a dedicated Physx card the game does not dip below 30FPS with Physx settings on medium.

also check this.

 

Was doin 49 fps average on the benchmark and the demo was kind of fun. The lack of physx action was kind of lame, but oh wells it was still fun.

 

What drivers are you using? I tried dedicated PhysX with 258.96 and it makes no difference, running 280m.

 

Did you play with Ambient Occlusion enabled?

 

I just finished the demo, played it for a while actually, used the Hex edit to change the time allotment.

It played without a hitch on my laptop -- in sig. I thought it made very good use of controls, and didn't feel too much like a port, compared to R* games (GTA4 anyone?).

You don't need a quadcore, unless you use physx, and then it will still be a slideshow for most. W/o physx enabled, even with Ambient occlusion ON, it ran perfect @1680x1050 with all other settings maxed except AA+AF -- which don't appear to work in the demo anyway.

All-in-all it seems this will be the game to compete with the likes of Red Dead Redemption on the console, and be a GREAT addition to the PC game library.

 

Is anyone else having this problem on a 5650m? See attachment

 

No.... What CCC you using? I have 10.7 and it runs great.

Does it do it for everything or just the benchmark?

 

you're using a mac so please stop complaining about the games and get a real pc if you wanna play the games that you've mentioned

 

Just wanted to add my two cents... downloaded demo through Steam, installed on my G73 w/ the ATI 5870, and game played GREAT! WAY better than GTAIV performs,no pop ups/glitches, and benchmark averaged 55fps. No issues at all.

As for controls, love the cover system, works great, and the cars feel great to me as well. Gunplay/looking around feels just right. Not sure what I was expecting, have always been disappointed with GTAIV, but this played and ran beautifully. I was playing with the cars on simulation, but glad to have the option.

Was on the fence on the purchase, but now this is a must buy, and will go ahead and pre-order... demo was that fun and worked that well.

Next will be to try it on the M11x. Not sure how that will go, but who knows.

Bottom line, install the demo, awesome game.

 

10.7a is what I'm using

 

With 10.7 everything on low, with AO, without physx i get only 26fps in benchmark and i think its pretty low ... Coz as far as i know 5650 isnt such big upgrade over 4650 which I have...

lots of guys with 9600gt plays game pretty well so Im little bit confused, is it possible that the game runs better on nvidia or i need to try with older drivers...

 

Reverted from 10.7a to 10.7 and it fixed the issue

 

delete meh

 

I just ran the benchmark on my laptop (specs in sig) and I had all settings High, AF x 16, Ambient Occlusion enabled, Physx disabled and I get a results of 47.9 fps (Rank C), If I enable Physx to either medium or high, the fps drops to 20 fps for high and to around 25 fps for medium. Physx clearly needs an entire GPU to itself to be of any use but is it really worth it, I don't think so

If I disable Ambient Occlusion my fps increases up to around 55 - 60 fps instead of the 47.9 fps. This game does make use of Quad Core but judging by the overall percentage use of up to 74% and usually around 50 - 65% overall during the benchmark, it should be fine on a reasonably clocked Dual Core (unlike GTA IV which uses over 90% of all 4 Cores) unless its code prefers extra Cores. This game seems pretty well optimised. Now to play the actual Demo

Edit: I played through the Demo and I thought it was really good. I used my wireless Xbox360 Control Pad with no problems, cover works much better than it does in GTA IV, the graphics are really nice and I had absolutely no performance issues. I think I might buy this one!

Edit: I found this pretty funny

 

I have the whole game, a review copy a friend of mine who works for a magazine reviewed the game on my XPS M1730. With all enabled 1920x1200 and 4xAA PhysX disabled I get in game around 35-40 fps on my dual core 2.6 and 8800m GTX SLI.

I haven´t tried the demo but the full game should probably run like the demo does.

 

I just tried the demo. The inbuilt game benchmark sucked and I think it is showing wrong fps. No matter what settings do I put, either low or high the fps won't cross 20. But in the game with everything high ,AA 16X Physx High and 1920X1200 resolution, the game runs flawlessly between 53-60 fps. The best part I liked was the fire and the vivid physx.

 

As an update to my prior post, the Alienware M11x R1 is a struggle with this game. Benchmark on low averages about 22-25fps, but doesn't get much better. Game play is similar, is technically playable, but nowhere near as enjoyable as on the G73. Chalk another one up to needing a bit better CPU.

Still a GREAT demo though, excited about the game... just won't be able to enjoy it on the go.

 

So I am running this on my desktop:
Core i7 950
9gigs DDR3
Ati 4650 1gig DDR2 (10.7)

And im playing it at 1280x720 and the games looks beautiful and plays really smooth. I am definitely buying this game when it comes out on the 24th.
Also, I love the atmosphere, much like the first game. They make you feel like you are in the 50's.

 

I imagine this will be one of those games that plays better with a controller than it will with a keyboard/mouse. I'll have to download the demo first, though, as I'm not sure my 'game console' (which is in reality just a mini-itx box attached to my TV and using a wireless 360 controller) can handle it.

If the poster above is running it on a 4650, then the only thing I might have to worry about is the processor. Think I'd be able to run it ok at 720p?

Core i3 530 @3.6 ghz
4gb DDR3
ATI Radeon 5570 1gb DDR3


EDIT: Mandatory Steam, it seems. Congrats 2K games, you saved me a bit of money and lost a sale.

 

Im pretty sure you can run it at 720p and whats wrong with steam?

 

After playing the demo, it just became a day one purchase for me. Now I need to go pre-order it. It really feels like GTA4 in the 50s. While the gameplay physics are not as robust as GTA4's Euphoria, the game is still very similar in feeling. It does feel like the devs held back some in terms of technological implementation outside of APEX and PhysX (basic water surface physics, somewhat ugly LOD at long distances), but it's still a good looking, playing, and running title. Really fun gunplay too

As performance goes, I'm currently uploading a Mafia II benchmark video with APEX PhysX off, on medium and high respectively on my slim case system with an Athlon II x4, Radeon 5570, and 2 GB DDR3. It might give you guys and idea of what to expect. I was easily running it at +30 FPS with setting at 1600 x 900, no AA, 1x AF, no APEX, with geometry and other graphics settings at their highest. 720p should easily be in reach for a mobile Radeon 5650 with similar settings. Check my Youtube Channel in half an hour or so when the video is done uploading and wait some more to see it in 1080p!

 

It's more the principle of it, I like to be the one who has control over my software. With Steam, they could disable my whole account "because they feel like it."

Call me paranoid, but I have an inherent distrust of any system in which the party who takes my money has the ability to force me to spend it all over again and re-buy everything if they choose. And then they have the balls to call it a "purchase."

Depending on how good of a game this shapes up to be (still haven't played the demo, but it's on my list of things to do), I may still pay for it and crack it (did this with Just Cause 2, as I do believe the devs should get some money if I'm going to be playing), which at least gives me "ownership" of it in some real sense.


mobius1aic, nice to know my graphics card can handle it.

 

Um, Valve (i.e. Steam) will never disable your account unless you are foolish enough to use 3rd party program to cheat in games. Also most of your money goes to the devs and steam gets a partial of it. Somehow I have a feeling that you have been banned before for using a cheat or something against steam's terms of use.

anyways, frankly speaking 2K games will not care whether you buy the game or not.

 

Anyone on a Geforce 310M or lower won't be able to do 720p on the lowest settings. Just tried. Part of the problem is that there are no texture resolution settings, as the textures will have a huge impact. Despite that, the game runs well for what it's outputting. If I could get a hold of a low level CFG file, it's possible to cut down the texture resolution as well as possibly the shadow resolution since even on it's lowest settings, it's fairly sharp.

 

There's absolutely no need to be banned if you follow the rules. Stupid friend of mine banned while he was selling key from Steam he talked with them they opened his accouny only he can't use his community 1 year.

I'm pretty sure you've been banned before and you were too lazy to contact with them...

 

for those of you getting abysmal fps with physx enabled (i was getting 6 fps in benchmark)

what you need to do is erase your current physx drivers and install the one from the mafia ii 3rd folder. for me the path looks like this
G:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\mafia ii - public demo\3rd

once i installed those even though it was the same version number my frames jumped to a nice 30 fps with physx on high and i must say its amazing

 

Everythign at high with AA+AO on and 16x AF no Physx and it runs great, never below 20FPS. if i turn off AO, shadow to Medium and Af to 8x it runs like 2 times better.

I would like to see more option to chose when tweaking graphics, and few other stuff in game but lets see the final version then we can ask more with patches.

I'm very happy with the game performance even thought i was experting better graphics (LOD is not that great), and less Physx impact on performance.

 

I recorded a short video of this game running on my Acer 4820TG.

YouTube - ‪Mafia II demo gameplay - TimelineX 4820TG‬‎

Runs great with current settings.

First impressions, instant buy Really love the feel of the game and first Mafia was great.

 

Users have been banned before due to technical issues or bugs, although they were offered free games as an apology and their accounts were unbanned. This still shows the inherent downfalls. I also once had no access to any of my Steam games because the Steam client decided to crash on startup. The fact is, you have very little control over any of your games and there are also those situations where people get their accounts stolen or hacked.

Mafia 2 is a lot cheaper (-£10) if you (pre order) buy the retail disk but I don't know whether that still requires steam.

 

Made no difference to me, even with Physx on medium, frames were around 15 - 20 fps after the install.

 

nice have the same specs

edit: damn just saw the temps. Can you feel the heat at the palmrest area?

 

Check to see if PhysX is running CPU or GPU, that is apparently one of the problems, if it is on CPU (the auto install on the demo causes this, delete PhysX and reinstall from the 3rd directory in the Mafia ii demo folder). Another guy on the 2K forums found a way to get it working, but at a cost, seems 2K made all the NPCs clothing PhysX enabled. You can stop this by deleting files in the PhysX directory see his fix here:

Fix for bad APEX performance! 100% - 2K Forums

 

Mafia II Demo: tweaking PhysX performance | PhysXInfo.com - PhysX News

More info about Physx performance increase.

Lets see what patches and drivers will bring to us, as i see there is lots of work to be done if they what to.

Screw you Physx.

 

The Fix for bad APEX performance worked, I now get up to 40 fps with Physx on medium and around 30 fps with it on High.

 

Man I wish I had a really powerful gpu; I love games but hate the tinkering necessary to get the MOST out of my 9800m gts. Gaming can become expensive...

When I update, I'm going desktop- upgrading is easier and its price to performance ratio is better. My first gaming computer was a laptop because I could get support from people with the exact same hardware. I still love the laptop though and this game looks to be beautiful and fun.

 

I could never go Desktop and the post here describes it well. If none of what has been mentioned in that post is important then I guess there is no loss. Having said that, Mafia 2 is still running on my laptop completely maxed out other than Physx but even a Desktop may struggle with that without an extra GPU and due to its poor implementation it is quite a fail.

I can't believe they have Physx being implemented on every single pedestrians clothing, that is just silly since you don't even notice it when it has been tweaked out.