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    Meaker BREAKS the record! 8289 (8700 GPU score)

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Meaker@Sager, Jul 20, 2012.

  1. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Meaker@Sager, Jul 20, 2012
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    I see the VBIOS I sent you did wonders :D
    Awesome man, just awesome results. Its actually better than the previous we saw from the chinese guy.

    Report back with temperatures and such so we can see the true potential of this GPU :)
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 20, 2012
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    80C was the max temp during the run.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 20, 2012
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    Thats extremely good considered the massive overclock.
    I have a request though: When you have the time, do a stock frequency vs this overclock in a few games and see what FPS you actually gain

    Cheers, I`m going to bed :)
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 20, 2012
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  5. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    The slider was maxed, it has more in it at this voltage!

    This thing just made a mockery of every mobile graphics card in existence, holy hell.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 20, 2012
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    ForestEX Notebook Guru

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    OH ok, Meaker, please disregard my question on mitsuhide's thread.
     
    ForestEX, Jul 20, 2012
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    fantabulicius Notebook Consultant

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    OMG this is awesome ! Are you able to run games at that frequency ?
     
    fantabulicius, Jul 20, 2012
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    It's obvious 3Dmark 11 is biased either towards Nvidia or Nvidia has done a lot of driver optimizations for it. Even the latest drivers you are running have shown to increase 3DMark 11 scores.

    It's interesting that GTX 670 scores are significantly higher than the AMD 7970, and yet in games 7970 is either faster or just a few FPS behind.
    - Though I will say, it's incredible Nvidia was able to use the GTX 670 as the basis for the 680M as there is little doubt the GTX 670 trounces the AMD 7870.

    As I always say, I play games, I don't play 3DMark and fuzzy doughnuts.

    But it's good to see you are excited about your 680M as the Clevo forum was starting to get depressing with all the 7970M bashing.
     
    Zymphad, Jul 20, 2012
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  10. KernalPanic

    KernalPanic White Knight

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    Hulawafu77, that is just clear fanboism. Just stop.
    It's time to deal with reality and put away the excuses.

    The margin here is too large to be explained away with "bias".
    The desktop 670's performance in games is well-documented and clearly better than anything the desktop 7870 can do and you know it.
    The only question in the 680m was could it close the gap between the desktop clocks and mobile clocks... and from these results it looks like it can and will to a very impressive degree.

    You and all the extreme AMD fanbois were quite simply wrong about the 680m.
    Put away your pointless denial.

    In the end we all win...
    -AMD shipped an amazing GPU at an amazing price point.
    -Nvidia shipped a one-up
    -Competition abounds, technology advances, consumers win!
     
    KernalPanic, Jul 21, 2012
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    The 670 scores like 6% higher...? ( 2)

    And according to those reviews, your 680m is faster than a stock 670 and 7970. :eek: That's amazing.
     
    R3d, Jul 21, 2012
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  12. long2905

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    We need to know if it's stable as a whole though. Also did you have to manually set fan to full speed meaker? All in all, such an unreal score @.@
     
    long2905, Jul 21, 2012
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    ForestEX Notebook Guru

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    wish i could use this bios, but bios changing will have to wait until i get a second gaming laptop, (chances are still 50/50 right?...)

    Meaker, Are you still able to return to stock clocks with that bios?
     
    ForestEX, Jul 21, 2012
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  14. Tonrac

    Tonrac Notebook Evangelist

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    P150em have a 180w psu. Have you got a wattmeter to measure the consumption of the card during the 3dm11 run ?
     
    Tonrac, Jul 21, 2012
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  15. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    remember thats 180w output, so what you measure will be the wattage from the wall, so as long as its under 225 watts from the wall it will be fine(assuming 80% efficiency).
     
    aduy, Jul 21, 2012
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  16. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Average Framerate: 38.80
    Max. Framerate: 123.79
    Min. Framerate: 10.46

    5 Run metro benchmark average

    1920x1080 DX11, very high qual, 4x AA, 4x AF, advanced physx - disabled, DOF - disabled.

    Max temp - 79C

    1037mhz core, 2574mhz mem.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 21, 2012
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  17. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    so i think at this point the card is being held back by memory bandwidth, because the core is actually higher than a stock desktop gtx 670
     
    aduy, Jul 21, 2012
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    can you make crysis 2 bench and bf3 on ultra?
    thank you mate.
     
    kolias, Jul 21, 2012
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Don't actually own those, but just grabbed crysis 2 in the sale so I will need to download it first.

    Remember a stock 670 is turboing to 1.15-1.2ghz clock speeds.

    Also did a couple of races in dirt3, again max temps were 79C. Here is a bench on ultra with 4xAA:

    680OCDirt.jpg

    Stock 680M:

    dirt3stock680.jpg

    Old bios overclocked 680M:

    dirt3oced680.jpg
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 21, 2012
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    No wonder why Nvidia charge $300 over 7970M for this GPU. It have a super secret mode that let you unlock the beast within. And its running stable too.
    We should all thank "Saltius" for modding this VBIOS and bringing us this overclocking weapon!

    This is just INSANE to watch :D :D

    So what we learned so far about this VBIOS I shipped you is:

    It raised the FPS from stock in Metro from 22FPS (ish, since notebookcheck got 24FPS with 3xAA not 4xAA like you tested) to 39FPS. Thats 77% better.
    It raised the FPS from stock in Dirt3 from 71FPS to 87FPS. (Note that this is CPU bound game). Thats 22% better.

    And the best part its that the 680M is running around 80C with this overclock in the games. Thats still LOWER than GTX 580M :D

    HOLY ¤!"#!"% :D :D :D
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 21, 2012
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  23. Cloudfire

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    BTW, could you run Battlefield 3 for us with stock vs overclocked?

    Perhaps do a Heaven benchmark too with stock vs overclocked ( Download) :cool:
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 21, 2012
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  24. fantabulicius

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    Nvidia has the best card in the end, for those willing to override their stock bios. Otherwise it continues to be similar to the 7970m for 300 dollars more.

    I don't regret buying my 7970m, i am not willing to mess with the bios of either card.Only overclocking to an extent.
     
    fantabulicius, Jul 21, 2012
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  25. hackness

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    Actually 3DMark11 was biased to HD7970M as the GPGPU on the GTX680M isn't perfroming that well, just check the combined score, only 6172.
     
    hackness, Jul 21, 2012
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  26. ahmadmud

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    can you run vantage at stock with the new vbios?
     
    ahmadmud, Jul 21, 2012
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  27. Meaker@Sager

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    766mhz core is as low as I can go on this bios.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 21, 2012
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  28. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    Guys why not post the modded vbios, or an how to unlock it?
    I'm sure it will be helpful!
     
    Kingpinzero, Jul 21, 2012
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    This is ridiculous. nVIDIA are selling us cards that can work so much faster than they really are. Keeping gamers with an artificially handicapped hardware just so they could sell something 'stronger' later on is not cool.

    I second Kingpinzero on that: is there a way to get this 'magic vbios' other than privately via Cloudfire?
     
    amirfoox, Jul 21, 2012
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  30. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    The 7990M is already on Clevos roadmap for Q4...its a hot year for us Notebook geeks. ;)
     
    Prema, Jul 21, 2012
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    HOLY HELL

    This is definitely INSANE, I might buy a P151HM and wait until the 685M gets released... imagine those overclocks, but f* this

    Is it just me or should everyone have this vBIOS? nVIDIA spits on AMD, gg wp
     
    jaug1337, Jul 21, 2012
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  32. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    What were the clocks?
     
    widezu69, Jul 21, 2012
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    Speedy Gonzalez Xtreme Notebook Speeder!

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    The 680M is a freaking monster :spinny: by the way is so painful to read and post now.....
     
    Speedy Gonzalez, Jul 21, 2012
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  34. long2905

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    Switch to vb4 default style and you should be good.

    Depend on how stable it is and if those clocks can be applied on any GTX 680M cards (unlike 7970M where only a handful can push over 1Ghz at stock) I may jump ship.
    If this clock can be used everyday in gaming and heavy tasks that is, otherwise I no longer want to prove anything anymore. I just fear that after a certain period, cards flashed this high would simply die off similar to GTX 580M (ough i really really hope that won't be the case).
     
    long2905, Jul 21, 2012
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  35. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    that's it, I am getting on the train asap :D great score Meaker!!!

    (totally the same thoughts with Long, if it keeps this voltage healthy, then we have a clear winner :))
     
    maxheap, Jul 21, 2012
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    Guys, about the VBIOS, I`m not going to post it on this forum since there are exceptions where this file will brick your GPU. This VBIOS is only for people who are aware of the risk. I want to make shure I don`t send it to the people with the wrong systems

    And I think we should honour the creator of this VBIOS, by not just putting it out there like some simple file, since it is hard work, done by skilled people, to make this VBIOS
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 21, 2012
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  37. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Did you use an unlocked+overvolt vBIOS?

    o_0


    Is that modded vBIOS available for Dell 680M or a MSi 680M?
     
    Mobius 1, Jul 21, 2012
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  38. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    A similar VBIOS for Dell 680M is in the works. I can confirm that :D
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 21, 2012
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  39. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    The original bios is overvolted (slightly) with a bump in stock speed, but same slider allowance. It's within 5-10mhz of the stability point as it turns out now I have tested the unlocked bios.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 21, 2012
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  40. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Thank you for the confirmation, I'm was going to take a GT60 instead of the 17x R4 about November but this changed my mind :)



    Is it ok to run F@H almost 24/7 with the overvolted BIOS? Also, with stock clocks, is it possible to pull 915MHz on the core and 1500MHz on the memory?
     
    Mobius 1, Jul 21, 2012
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  41. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    overclocking is just for fun specially with mobile GPU's I have tried to game with high clocks before and is a no go most of the cards will be stable with +100mhz core and +200mhz memory for gaming but sometimes not even that

    like you said the cards start to die and is not the chip is the rest of the components like capacitors diodes resistors weaker than desktop components

    if you want to test stability with overclocking try to run metro2033 max settings for 15min or crysis max settings that will give you an idea how stable are the clocks

    any way stock vs stock the 680m is better than 7970m I don't know if is $300 better but is better :D
     
    Speedy Gonzalez, Jul 21, 2012
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    you are right speedy, considering these scores and amd driver support, it seems to be true...but that 7970m vantage score looks great too
     
    ahmadmud, Jul 21, 2012
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    Regarding the first point - this is tested on a Clevo, so only Clevo owners should use it for the time being. If someone who doesn't know what they're doing bricks his GPU, then it's his problem, not yours. A simple 'try at your own risk' disclaimer is all that's needed.

    Regarding the second one - I agree, the guy who made this is astonishing, and should deserve much acclaim and respect, but I don't see how posting his work + crediting him in the forum diminishes that. On the contrary.

    Think of poor ol' Joe and Jane Doe having to cough up the dough for buying a 690M/780M/880M/WhateverM which is the exact same card with better clocks. I beg of you, think of the children :p
     
    amirfoox, Jul 21, 2012
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  45. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    well, citation is a scientific well established mechanism which led the development of science for the past 2000 years.. I don't see how posting the vbios and citing the creator with a disclaimer can hurt anything...
     
    maxheap, Jul 21, 2012
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    I agree with what is posted above also this will allow other people to try these Vbios and give us more information on how other GTX 680M will perform on this bios.
     
    Killerinstinct, Jul 21, 2012
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    5150Joker Tech|Inferno

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    Because the author may not want it posted.

    Sent from my GT-N7000
     
    5150Joker, Jul 21, 2012
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    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    Actually no, this VBIOS is NOT made for Clevo 680M but MSI 680M. But it turns out it also seems to work for Clevo. So it will work for both MSI and Clevo. And it MUST be a 4GB 680M, not 2GB since you risk bricking it. This VBIOS was made for 4GB

    And like mentioned above and by me, I don`t want publish this VBIOS in public since this was made by hard work. If anyone else want to do it, fine, but I don`t want to take responsibility for careless acts nor publish it like its a simple file. Personally I think the creator of this VBIOS should be the one to upload it, if he wants to.
    I have great respect for Saltius.

    Like just 1 hour ago there was a guy with a GT640M LE who messaged me and wanted me to send this VBIOS to him so that he can flash his GPU with this.

    But like said earlier, if anyone wants to give it a try, feel free to contact me :)
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 21, 2012
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    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    BTW, Meaker, have you tried any other games? Had any crashes? Is it working like a charm?
    I`m very interested in seeing Battlefield 3, stock vs overclocked :D
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 21, 2012
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  50. amirfoox

    amirfoox Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah, I know that it is MSI's VBIOS, I've read this thread. But it has been tested solely on Clevo in this thread, so that what people should stick to.

    Regarding the GT640M guy...Yikes. OK, you have a point.
     
    amirfoox, Jul 21, 2012
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