Medal of Honor and MW BlackOps dealbreakers

I've been thinking of some dealbreakers this time round that will prevent me from buying these games...

1) Steam requirement...if these games requires steam...I'm out.
2) Vac....if it has Vac...I'm out. I'd rather have punkbuster as the anti-cheat implementation, and have treyarch use the old login system with cod waw. I like having a hard copy of the game.
3) No Dedicated Servers - Forget it, not worth it without dedicated servers.
4) Short Single Player campaign - If they can't make a decent, long single player campaign, then forget it. Some of us don't want to spend hours playing the same maps over and over on multiplayer...again that gets boring
5) More Recoil - these games need to get a tad more realistic and actually require some skill. Take a page from codemaster's flashpoint.
6) Firing Mode Selection - We should be able to choose semi-automatic, full automatic, etc. depending on the weapon..again take another page out codemaster's flashpoint.
7) If Black Ops uses IWNet...forget it...

I think that's about it. Got any more dealbreakers?

 

Why would a treyarch game use IWnet(infinty ward net)? Deal breaker for me would be no dedicated servers/mod support for black ops. I don't mind Steam or VAC as long as it has dedicated servers with admins. I am not really interested in MOH.

 

Activision can pee right off, they stole $60 from me as far as im concerned. I play a lot on PS3 and it is perfectly fine, but the PC version....well we all know, now dont we.

 

I think both MOH and COD:BO will not require Steam, I'm pretty sure MOH won't.

MOH will probably use the same sort login/account system as BF series, because the multiplayer portion of the game is designed by DICE.
Not sure about COD:BO, hopefully they won't use GFWL.

They will both have dedicated servers, this has already been confirmed.

COD will be COD, expect the same amount of campaign length as previous installments. MOH on the other hand, not sure. It's been a long time since we had a good MOH campaign.

Not gonna happen. I've already played the MOH beta, its weapon recoils feel just like COD, you can forget about "realism" in COD or MOH, heck, BC2's guns feel more realistic than either game can offer.

 

1. If a game requires Steam (or at least uses it), that's more incentive for me to buy it. Hell, I've re-purchased games that I already had retail copies of just to have them on Steam.

2. VAC is better than Punkbuster in my opinion. If you have servers watched by live admins to immediately remove cheaters, there is nothing wrong with its delayed system. And when was the last time VAC kicked you for having a well established in-game overlay, or for having the wrong drivers installed?

3. Both Black Ops and Medal of Honor have been confirmed to have dedicated servers. Hell, MoH even has them in the beta.

4. Given my previous experience with Treyarch (CoD: World at War), I think they'll do a good job with the Black Ops campaign. And I have yet to be disappointed by the campaign of any Medal of Honor title, so I think that's set.

5. You want realism, go join the Army. You want recoil, play Bad Company 2. You want a fun game, stop worrying so damn much about it.

6. Hasn't been in any of these games since the original Call of Duty, and frankly, I don't miss it. Relatively few of the weapons would be affected anyway, and there's plenty of variety in the default firing modes for all the weapons anyway (i.e. 3-round burst, semi-automatic, full automatic).

7. Black Ops (developed by Treyarch) isn't going to use IWNet (developed by Infinity Ward), especially not considering that it's already confirmed to have dedicated servers.

If you ask me, a pretty big dealbreaker would be utter lack of post-release support for the PC version, as in the case of both Bad Company 2 (by DICE, who are handling MoH's multiplayer) and Modern Warfare 2 by IW. As long as there aren't glaringly obvious flaws in balance (looking at you, UMP45 and akimbo G18's + Commando knifing in MW2...and the AN-94 and unbelievable nerfing of the AT-4 in BC2), and the games have critical issues patched in a reasonable amount of time (unlike the zillions of XP per kill exploits and instant-unlock-everything servers in MW2, for instance), I'll be quite happy.

tl;dr - why do we have a thread for worrying about what's going to happen with games that aren't going to be released for several more months anyway? Just be patient and wait for the release dates; all the info will be available by then.

 

I'm not worried...I'm just sayin...I won't buy it if it has the dealbreakers above.

And steam sucks IMO. I'd rather be able to sell my game used when I get done with it. Some of us don't play for the repititious multiplayer gaming, and don't want to pay $50 for a game with a short 2-3 hour campaign. At least allow people to create custom campaigns, like in flashpoint, that will prolong the game for people who don't want to play online after the cheats are made for it.

 

You sir are clearly not looking to buy the game.

You have to realize this is a friggin game. I'm pretty sure the majority of people wouldn't care much for added recoil. Yes, it is unrealistic, but it's just a game.

 

You can't sell used PC games anyway, least not in the last few years. EB games, Best Buy and Future shop here won't touch them. Pawn shop might, just cause they don't know any better.

On Topic, I think I am done with retail games, I only buy games online now. So Steam is no problem for me, or any aspect of it, including VAC. Firing mode would be nice though, use it all the time in S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

 

lol at some people on these forums disliking Steam. Just because you had problems with it does not mean Steam is bad. For me I have never had a problem with my steam account since I don't use any 3rd party program that can get my account banned.

Oh and by the way, if any one of you actually go to internet cafe to play steam games, be wary of any cheating programs installed in the computers. Even though you did not install the program, VAC thinks you cheated, and thus banning your account. I've heard some stories where someone went to internet cafe and played some CS:S or any game in Steam without realizing that the computer had a 3rd party program installed. VAC caught it and banned his account.

 

Dealbreaker for me will be no dedicated servers, crappy graphics or boring campaign mode...

 

Military FPS's not set in the modern time are a dealbreaker for me. I'm tired of the WWII, Vietnam games. I'm sure Activision had to go back to the past because of their dispute with IW. But I'm stearing clear anyways. It might be a kick game, but I'm not that interested.
Also, if I have to empty an entire clip into the enemy to kill them in multiplayer, that is also a deal breaker. I love BC2, but damn. Half of my deaths are during reloading. I miss Delta Force: Black Hawk Down.

And Steam is awesome! I'd much rather play without a CD or a crack!

 

So basically you want to make the game yourself?

 

I know that Black Ops is having dedicated serves, not sure about MoH. All I know is that I've been in the PS3 Beta since day 1 and I'm very unimpressed when you compare it to COD:BO.

CoD has always been and always will be an arcade twitch shooter with a "real" skin applied to it. I praise it, because IW/Trey does it well (not to much with MW2's complete lack of balance but still).

MoH is going to feel/ already is like a reskinned BFBC2, which personally I was NOT a fan of.

If you want realism just wait until Battlefield 3 comes out (apparently you can get into the beta if you waste your moola on MoH).

And as for steam? I love it. I'm not a cheater so I'll never get banned (knock on wood) and as far as not having an optical drive spinning during gameplay... well thats all the more reason to support steam and downloadable games.

Besides, while hardcopies are nice, could you imagine if we lived in a world with only downloadable games? Imagine the positive impact on the environment! Think green, go digital! (I shalt copyright that saying).

 

Not sure if that was directed at me or the originator, but I'd love to create the game. If I had the talent or imagination I would be on one of those design teams. But since I don't, I'll just stick to getting sniped and Gustaved in BC2 until MOH comes out.

 

Then wait for a Steam sale. I bought CoD 4 for $15 from Steam. Bought CoD 5 for $25. I also don't understand why dedicated servers are important to you if you only want SP? This thread topic seems like a pointless rant actually. :\

 

I don't only want SP, MP is fun for a while if dedicated servers can mod and create their own maps, and possibly create their own missions.

 

Pshhhh...you wish, then all DLC would be free...

 

On the basis of this statement, I vote KipCoo CEO of Activison... Can I do that?

 

oh , i'd love more WW2 games or Vietnam ones... especially WW2.. i love the old weapons .. but more korean war and vietnam war games would help.

 

Yah and you might think this is a bad business move but I think it'll pay off in the end as far as pc gamers being loyal to your brand. Now that MOH is coming out you think some people might forgo BlackOPs and get MOH instead? I think so.

 

If they games cost 60 bucks then NO I will not get them. Which both of them cost that much and ill probably wait until its on sale to get them. Im more interested in MOH than Black Ops...

As for steam, its the only reason why Im spending money on my PC for upgrades.

 

i love steam, it saved me from being a pirate

 

I will probably get both moh and blackops. I don't mind steam but I like a physical copy so I can sell the game when I get bored with it. Figure if you spend $60 might as well have a cd and box any ways. It's not like it's going to be cheaper on steam initially regardless.

 

Deal Breaker for me is I have BFBC2 thats enough FPS for me and I quickly liked it much better online mutliplayer than CoD MW2

 

being on steam is great. you can play it anywhere you want, and it's just great. and vac is so much better than punkbuster. soooo much better.

Being able to sell the game is nice and all, but with pc games, I don't think it will work with PC games in the future. register the CD key to your account, and the only thing other people get when they buy your used game is a campaign, which probably isn't worth it at all. Paying $50 for a war fps campaign is just not worth it at all IMO.

 

I'd want longer single player campaign.

And Co-Op campaign modes. I don't find that much enjoyment with 32 players all spreading out in different directions on public server, little to no squad play, and playing same map over and over.

I find co-op games do a better job in encouraging players to work together and in that end, more enjoyable.

 

Totally agree.. i do want to see longer single player campaigns..

currently , i got BC2 for $20 on amazon.. and MOH is $40 on pre-order... i'm waiting a while to see if its worth it.

 

I was originally against the idea of digital download, but it makes soo much sense, and I have poopy dsl and have a 8 gig game done in 4 hours tops. It would be more of a deal if the prices were lower, Less cost on producing cover art, printing is, then printing discs even if there 5 cents a disc, saving on the plastic for the case and so on and so forth. Im starting my first treks into video game development and I love steam to death now, Gives you a bit of security when dealing with piracy, no cost for publishing other then valves cut, it makes sense on soo many levels.

What one of these developers should be doing is selling the game brand new for 39 bucks, im pretty sure (not 100%) that steam takes 10% of the sale which is 3.90 for instance, the rest goes straight to you, no middle publisher taking a bit or anything. And you can back up all your purchases on an external HDD and hide it away lets say if your comp crashes. HDDs in high volumes is cheap enough nowadays.

I see this as nothing but a win win for everyone, Greedy publishers are whats keepin the price so high, even at 49 bucks thats alot of bucks, but 39 man would be a steal. Would bring back pc gaming IMO. Steam is XBOX live on PC, the interface isnt as pretty in game but its getting there slowly, and its free, and you can buy your game outside of steam and then shortcut it into steam and still talk to your steam buddies without exiting the game.