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    Missing files from PC every day

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Coverdrave, Nov 23, 2015.

  1. Coverdrave

    Coverdrave Notebook Geek

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    Hello, so when I restart or leave my PC for day or so, files from my games always get corrupted.
    For example, I was playing PAYDAY 2 yesterday just fine.
    I came back from school and wanted to play.
    Launched the game but I got error that binkw32.dll is missing.
    I got that many files could be missing, so I downloaded a .sfv file from a website.
    I runned it and It was like 50 missing .bundle files.
    This happens onto so many games, not only PAYDAY 2.
    Could this be because the games are located at D disk?
    Also my Antivirus is off and have exception to search for viruses at the folder which all my games are at (D:Games\[all game folders here]).
     
  2. Scanner

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    I'm thinking you may have a couple of things:

    -HDD could be failing

    -Entire game files are some how corrupted

    -there's possibly a virus or malware on your system

    Turn on your anti-virus and check your system. Or, move your save files and format your hdd and reinstall your games.
     
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    Coverdrave Notebook Geek

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    What does my HDD to be failing means?
    I don't think that every game own files can get corrupt from nothing. Plus they don't get corrupt, they are deleted.
    BTW that happens only on games, never onto pictures or music or whatever it is.
    There may be a virus, I'll check tomorrow for sure and report back.
     
  4. i_pk_pjers_i

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    It means your Hard Disk Drive may be on its way out - it may be dying and require replacing. You probably should run a CHKDSK on your HDD.
     
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    I runned it and I saw that there were 2 errors saying:
    The master file table's (MFT) BITMAP attribute is incorrect.
    The Volume Bitmap is incorrect.
    Windows found problems with the file system.
    Run CHKDSK with the /F (fix) option to correct these.
    But what do I write after /F?
    Can you give me an example?
     
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    You can put that in a terminal and hit enter, if you can't access the "tools" section for checkdisk.

    But unless you're getting new bad sectors every other minute or something, and have this somehow magically not affecting the system files - you're either the luckiest person on the planet. Or you've basically at some point managed to get a bad sector in the swap file area. And then pointers to the addressing areas are corrupted, as in they're not pointing to real data. And thanks to Microsoft's genius engineers, that means if you retrieve the files from swap, that file will suddenly lose critical addressing information. And what that data is will of course change as swap is rotated out, making data pointers corrupted towards any number of places on the disk-drive, as you use the files...

    Wonderful problem, basically. But you need to delete/disable swap/virtual memory for a while, and run chkdisk with a repair switch to mark any bad sectors. If you don't disable swap first, bad things will happen on reboot, even if the error was fixed. But just open up some terminal, type in chkdsk /f /r and the driveletter with a colon at the end. And you should be prompted that the system will do a check on the next reboot.

    Probably wouldn't hurt to fumigate the system with a virus/ad-ware checker first, though.
     
  7. Kevin

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    Sounds like your HDD is about to go belly up.

    Back up what you can and replace it asap.
     
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    i_pk_pjers_i Even the ppl who never frown eventually break down

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    Yep, as I expected. It's quite likely any software "fix" that you do will be temporary, it's quite likely your hard drive will need replacing sooner rather than later.
     
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  10. Coverdrave

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    But all other is fine, all runs good.
    And I tried to play around 5 mins before Besiege but it didn't start up :/
    Seems like it's corrupted too.
    So, is there some risk for my whole PC because of this with my HDD?
     
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    Yes. Hard drive failure can start with small symptoms, but they can/will quickly snowball to the point where it will render your computer unusable. Back up your important data right now, then see about getting that drive replaced.
     
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    This is how hard drives fail. Do yourself a favor and backup all your data NOW and get a replacement hard drive NOW. I would do a clean installation of Windows because who knows what files there are corrupt on your current installation.
     
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    Hmm, could it be from a virus or something?
    I'll start the antivirus to search after a hour I think.
    BTW I have already backed up all my music and savegames.
     
  14. killkenny1

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    Just pick a new HDD. Better to have a $50 hole in your pocket than loosing all your crap on computer.
     
  15. Coverdrave

    Coverdrave Notebook Geek

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    Would it will be better to give it to technics?
     
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    To do what?
     
  17. Coverdrave

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    To replace the HDD.
     
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    It's usually not too difficult to swap out a HDD but it does depend. Either Google your system name followed by 'HDD replacement' or just post the details on this thread. iFixit do very good guides that walk you through the process, for a large number of systems. There's a fair chance you could do it yourself, if you wish to save some cash - although it shouldn't cost too much to have a repair shop install it for you.
     
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    Scanner already gave you the steps you need to do to diagnose this problem. Follow his steps, but I also suggest a hard drive diagnostics tool to check for bad sectors on the drive. I am talking about a tool that runs outside of the operating system. Chances are your laptop already has a built-in diagnostics suite which includes a hard drive tool. If you do have bad sectors, you will want to swap that hard drive. Maybe this is a good opportunity to look into an SSD.
     
  20. Coverdrave

    Coverdrave Notebook Geek

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    I heard that gamers use SSD to increase FPS on games while playing or recording.
    Are they expensive?
     
  21. Falco152

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    Increasing FPS while recording is possible in the case if the game is streaming their data from the same drive is the same as the recorder target.

    But overall SSD don't increase FPS, just improve loading times.

    SSD are currently in the reasonable price range like a 480GB for approx ~$110 US. Sure, it's not the fastest but the access time are significantly faster.
     
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    If you can afford the cost, go for SSD. Everything loads faster, boot and shutdown speeds are improved - plus it makes no noise or vibration. Apart from the cost it's just better in every way.
     
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    If you're not comfortable with doing that procedure, sure.
    It's usually not hard (depending on setup), but when in doubt, do what you feel is the best.

    When playing it doesn't increase FPS. I mean how could it, it's not GPU or CPU. It does help with loading times or stutters one can experience when open world game is loading stuff.
     
  24. Coverdrave

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    Oh yeah, I meant the stutter (I had some before but it was because the max frames ahead that were made were like 5 think).
    By the way I runned my antivirus and found 22 viruses (removed them but they didn't had anything related to HDD).
    Are there going to happen fatal things for my laptop if I keep using this HDD?
     
  25. killkenny1

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    Depends on what is wrong with your HDD. If it's technical - you could potentially loose all your stuff. Virus - also not good. Some things, like login information, can be hijacked.
    If you're still not sure what is wrong with your HDD, do a clean install. See if all those things you had happened were really due to virus.
     
  26. Coverdrave

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    I don't care what I'm gonna loose from my HDD, all I need is backed up on Google Drive.
    And what do I do clean install onto?
     
  27. J.Dre

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    I once had missing files from games when Malwarebytes decided to start searching for "Rootkits." It continuously erased system files. The only way to salvage this was to revert back to a previous date (backup). Backups are great! Otherwise, you may have to reinstall everything, including Windows.

    That doesn't seem to be your problem, but I'm sure someone else will have this issue.
     
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    Haha, yeah, heard about that. All files that contained function-calls that wouldn't normally be used--- in a logical world with programmers who thought consciously about access control.

    And just so it's been said - a few bad sectors on a hdd isn't the end of the world. But unmarked/undetected bad sectors is a disaster. And because of the addressing type errors that persist, you might need to reinstall some of the software on your hdd.

    So if you're not actually getting many new bad sectors each time you're using the disk - that the reading head has been damaged, or something like that, then just mark the bad sectors with a.. few hours of chkdsk runs. And it shouldn't necessarily be a huge problem after that. So just try doing that before you throw the hdd in the garbage bin.
     
  29. bennni

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    If you want to try and continue to use that HDD (Which is cheaper but has the risk that it will fail later - your call)...

    Use the recovery disks, if you have them, to reinstall Windows onto the hard drive in your laptop. If you don't them, then use one of the following links:

    Windows 7
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows7

    Windows 8.1
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows8ISO

    Windows 10
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO

    Burn to USB with the app Rufus or burn it to a DVD. Restart your system and boot up the USB or DVD. When given the option, chose to wipe the entire old partition and reinstall Windows fresh. Do a disk check once it has installed and keep an eye on the disk from now on.

    Or replace the old hard drive with a new drive and do the above steps.
     
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    Heh I have an SSD on my home laptop and at work all the computers have the old HDD's - its painful. So beware going to SSD because once you go there, it's VERY DIFFICULT to go back.
     
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    Hmm, my brother run a program which he said would repair my HDD, and today when I runned chkdsk it said there are no errors. Could the program have fixed the issues?
     
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    A program isnt going to fix a failing HDD, backup everyting you wanna keep and then buy a new HDD or SSD and then reinstall windows on it.
     
  33. Coverdrave

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    But it says that there are no errors 0_0
    I'll ask him what is the name of the program.
     
  34. i_pk_pjers_i

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    I'm not so sure why you want to keep a hard drive that in all likelihood is going to die very soon and take your data with it. If you had CHKDSK errors before, that's a red flag for a reason. Replace your hard drive.
     
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    http://crystalmark.info/download/index-e.html Portable w/o Ads (zip)
    That will tell you in 5 seconds if the drive is bad. There is three results, Good, warning or bad. Only the good is acceptable result, with any other you need to replace the drive.
     
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    It says good.
     
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    Every single person on this thread had told you the same thing:
    Your drive is starting to fail. You should replace it as soon as possible.

    Not one person has told you to just run some software program, and everything should be fine. Or just keep using the drive, and hope that the problem goes away by itself.

    Do what you will with that advice.
     
  38. PrimeTimeAction

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    Lets not be too harsh. he is just trying to make sure.

    @Coverdrave
    The problem you have could be a software related or hardware related.

    If it is software, it could be that
    1. Your system is infected with virus. If this is the case then unfortunately just running the antivirus and deleting the infected files will not solve the issue. You will also need to format the OS and reinstall.
    2. Your antivirus/anti-malware is deleting the files. Some of these software have high rate of false positives. It usually happens if you have modified dlls or system files. One way to check if this is the case is to turn off your antivirus/antimalware and see if the files get deleted.

    If it is hardware, then it would most likely be the hard drive. And software diagnostics is not 100% reliable in this case. For your information, if you have bad sectors and you "fix" the problem using software, it doesn't remove the bad sectors. It only isolates the portion of hard disk that has bad sectors so that they dont accessed.

    PS. The Bad sector example above is just for reference. Bad sectors typically dont cause file deletions alone. If you dont want to buy a new hard drive yet and willing to explore more options, I would suggest to format and re-partition you complete disk and re-install everything.
     
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  39. i_pk_pjers_i

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    If he values his data, we most definitely should be too harsh because that's what valuable data loss is - too harsh. A virus is not going to cause sectors to go bad, 99.999% of the time, that is a hardware issue of some sort (RAID card gone bad, hard drive gone bad, etc). There is absolutely no guarantee that more sectors won't go bad, or that he won't lose his entire drive outright. Then again, this is coming from someone who has 11TB of usable space in raidz1, with 2 on-site and 2 off-site backups. I value my data, and I'm not willing to lose it - which is why I constantly have all of my hot (i.e. live, powered-on) drives monitored, and have multiple cold (off) drive backups. Data loss is NOT an option for me, and I won't let it happen. I will win against the big bad hard drives, and I will keep my valuable data.
     
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    I don't really have much of important files on my PC, what I needed I backed up at Google Drive. By the way, something pretty off topic (because I don't really wanna do another topic, you guys can help on people who need more help than me instead to help me so I'll post it here if someone knows if it's bad), I just started my laptop today and a really really loud noise like a fan has started going really goddamn fast for a sec and then broke. I was really confused because it all run fine. Until I played CS GO for like 30 mins. I usually really focus to be accurate and one time while a guy killed me, I put my hand near the place that the heat of fan goes out (don't judge me, I don't know English that well :p) and realised that my laptop was really hot. I am using an fps_max 71 command because before it my laptop was reaching 80C temperature and normally after the command it was 60-65C. Then I though that one of my fans could have really broke and not working. The laptop was into my brother's room for the night which was kinda cold and I placed it onto my desk when I got back from school to play and into my room it was warmer. I hear that many people got their laptops broken from that the laptop was cold inside and starting it into a warmer place was making it break. I think that happened with my old laptop, I started it and the screen was just black but had black light coming out. It was that my motherboard was totally broken. So someone knows why this happens? I am really afraid of my laptop "passing out" because my family is low on money and I don't have another thing to make fun out of.
     
  41. i_pk_pjers_i

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    I've started laptops from EXTREMELY cold temperatures and they heated up fairly quickly, and they had no damage whatsoever from doing this. I highly doubt that doing this, even fairly regularly like I did, would cause any issues.
     
  42. Coverdrave

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    Then what could be the reason from heating up that much from normal?
     
  43. i_pk_pjers_i

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    I can't really help unless you give specific details as to what is heating up and how much it is heating up. My point is, I don't think it's going from cold to warm that would cause those issues, because I never had any issues in going from cold to warm.
     
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    Laptop fans and also desktop fans are known to get clogged with dust after months of use and as result making the fans to work harder and ofc a increase of temperatures. You should blow the dust out from the fans with a can of compressed air.
     
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    The laptop heats more than normal when I play CS GO. It reached 75-80C yesterday and was lagging, which wasn't normal for the game. I cleaned my laptop from dust before 5 months, I don't really think that the laptop will be heating of dust, I had it working a year without cleaning inside and never CS GO lagged that much. Could it be from the newest update bringing the R8 Revolver (the most op weapon - even more than the AWP) and the Revolver Case? Before it everything was going normal.
     
  46. i_pk_pjers_i

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    Honestly, once every 5 months is at the very least how often you should clean your laptop. You could also repaste it, perhaps with some better thermal paste if you weren't already using good thermal paste. It's much more likely that you didn't notice how much it was heating up, not necessarily that the new update is suddenly mad at your laptop and makes it heat up. 75-80c is pretty hot..
     
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    I was starting the laptop before like 5 mins, and like 3 secs after starting it the laptop's fan started going really fast for 2 secs and then got to normal speed. Why is that happening??
     
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    Thats normal for most laptops to check and see if your fan is running property before booting up, if theres a problem with your fan a error message will display telling you replace the fan and/or send in for repairs
     
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    So all is fine?
     
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    All is fine in the sense that your computer most likely just needs some inexpensive maintenance to run optimally. The lag you're experiencing sounds like a symptom of thermal throttling; your computer automatically decreases performance to prevent itself from overheating. This is not a sign of hardware failure as silicone-based thermal compound will dry out over time, which affects its ability to transfer heat. If a computer is left regularly doing taxing work with inadequate cooling, however, it may have its lifespan shortened.

    Try reading up on how to repaste your GPU and CPU. If you don't feel comfortable doing it on your own, take it to a local repair shop or tech-savy relative should you have one. Even if you're short on money, I echo the advice of having the HDD replaced as it's very likely to fail soon. Your notebook is being serviced anyway, and replacing an exposed hardrive is done within seconds. Only continue using your current HDD if you're 100% comfortable losing data that's not backed up and don't mind experiencing some downtime when your computer eventually becomes unstable or fails to boot.
     
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