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    Mobile Graphic Card Comparison...

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by BenLeonheart, Apr 23, 2010.

  1. BenLeonheart

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    GTX260m vs. ATi 5850 ?
    GTX320m vs GTX 260m?
    GTX260m vs ATi 5870?


    Inputs?
     
  2. ziddy123

    ziddy123 Notebook Virtuoso

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    GTX260M vs HD5850 I think is a toss up for DX10.1 and DX9, but HD5850 does have Direct Compute and Tessellation and other great DX11 features. Also runs cooler and less power.

    GTX320M never seen it. I've seen a GT 320M which seems to be either a G92 or G200 rebadge, and poor performance using DDR2... pass on it.

    HD5870 swamps everything. It's almost 40% faster than the GTX 285M in a few games, and it's truly tearing up Bad Company 2 right now.

    GTX 260M vs HD5870M? Put it this way, even with SLI GTX 260M, HD5870 is still better.
     
  3. ziddy123

    ziddy123 Notebook Virtuoso

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    These are my benchmarks.

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    Settings you can see. Though the FPS average a bit on the low side, gameplay is very smooth because actions is relatively light in the game compared to other games.
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    Dirt 2: Ultra Settings, no AA.

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    Highest settings no AA. Can tell I don't care for AA at all, never used it in the past, don't do it now.
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    Batman 1920*1080, Very High, all settings on except bloom, I hate bloom.

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    Self explanatory as it shows the settings.
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  4. MidnightSun

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    If you want a rough idea of the standings of each of these GPUs, you can take a look at the list that NotebookCheck compiles. The ranking is by artificial numbers averaged across several laptops with different specifications, so take it with multiple grains of salt. You can, however, click on the name of a GPU and see actual game framerates though.

    @ziddy123: You're going to want to put thumbnails that link to full size versions of those images - they're huge right now.
     
  5. BenLeonheart

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    My mind has been blown by 5870... Jesus!

    I have another question...
    The 5870 Mobility would be equal to which desktop card? (ATi & nVidia?)
    What about the 5850 mobility?
    and how does the the GTX260m performs against its desktop counterparts?
     
  6. ziddy123

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    The HD5870M is a Desktop HD5770 with lower clock speed. HD5770 is 850 core, 1250 memory I believe. Mobile HD5870 is 700 Core/1000 memory, but can be gamed at 800 core/1100 memory without worry, laptop cooler assumed.

    For example in Crysis, a HD5770 Desktop gets around 34.1 FPS average on high, as you see, my HD5870M gets 33.9 FPS average. The performance between the two are near identical with some O/C.
     
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    So , MR ziddy, how much FPS average would I get on high with a 5850?
    What about a GTX260m / 280m?
     
  8. ziddy123

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    There are benchmarks, look for them from 260/280 users.
     
  9. sean473

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    but they will be less.. trust me and ziddy , 5870 is the best on the market out there for single card systems... get that.. also is DirectX11 when all NVDIA cards are DirectX 10.1 so u have the advantage of newer tech...
     
  10. BenLeonheart

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    Sean, I'm blown away by the 5870, thing is, the only 15'' lappy with a 5870 is a Sager, and Sager does not give me INTL warranty... so.. i ruled it out...

    (budget is $1300)

    I was seriously considering a 5850... how would that 1 fare against the 260/285m?
     
  11. BenLeonheart

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    I was also considering an M15x, to upgrade to a 5870...
    But seriously, $1500 for a M15x? no thanks.
     
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    The 5870 is far and away the fastest, by a large margin. The 5850 scores a good bit above the 260M GTX when paired with GDDR5 (12000 vs 10000 in 3DMark06), and just a bit below it when paired with GDDR3/DDR3 (9000 vs 10000 or so). The GTX320M isn't a card, so if you mean the 320M GS, then you're talking pretty slow, below a Radeon 5470 and such. If you meant the 360M GTS, then it's going to be slightly slower than the 260M GTX, and even the 5850 with GDDR3.

    So the rankings look like this:

    5870
    5850/GDDR5
    260M GTX
    5850/GDDR3
    360M GTS
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    320M GS
     
  13. BenLeonheart

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    I lol'd...
    Thanks for that...

    Now I'm having a tough time between the MSI GX740 and the GX640...
    All because of warranty...

    Why don't I live in the USA? :(


     
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    Oh any my Last question...
    How would the GTX285 fit in the equation?
     
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    Besides requiring 15W more cooling power? It's slower than the 5870, but faster than anything else.
     
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    do u really want 15 inch? G73 is a much better deal and way more upgradeable has better battery life and its only 0.5kg heavier... u might want to consider it as the X3 version will come in ur budget... also M15x is also heavier than Asus G73 lol... and more expensive..
     
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    The Asus warranty is Global 360. It doesn't matter where you live, if you buy one of the reseller versions. Some models only have 1 year warranty which is why they are so much cheaper at NewEgg and Best Buy.

    The Sager warranties are really good, just expensive and pretty sure global. Dell Warranty seem good also, just expensive, not sure if they are bound by location.
     
  18. lozanogo

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    It is below the 5870 but clearly above the 5850.

    Now a quick question: which resolution do you plan to play with? The reason is that if you are aiming for only native resolution the MSI 640 GPU is weak (the sweet spot should be 1400x900 or so).
     
  19. fzhfzh

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    Why are you asking about 285M though, pretty sure the only laptops with 285M are Clevos/Sagers which you ruled out.

    The MSI with 5850 GDDR5 is not much worse off, and difference between 285M and 5870MR is not that big, it's on average only 5-10% difference in terms of raw performance, but 5870MR do have dx11.
     
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    Yeah OP I would PM fzhfzh and ask about his experience with his Sager and in terms of portability. It's a pretty beastly and great looking laptop. Like Asus, Clevo changed their high end notebook from shiny surface to matte. Looks awesome.
     
  21. sean473

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    just to note.. it has a 3 cell 1 hour battery.. won't even last 30mins on gaming.. so say bye bye to portability... IMO , a G73 is a better deal than sager... especially here in UK...