Mobile Nvidia GTX 480 possibly spotted at CeBIT

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/03/10/mobile-gtx480-shown-cebit/

So the speculation is....is this based on the new fermi architecture or another "re-brand" using the desktop G200 cores?

 

The question is, when the hell is it coming out?

 

Rebrand. Laptops run around 125-150 watts, and umm, GTX480 uses 250...

 

Now that's funny.

Expect a rebrand and if it is or isn't you won't be disappointed.

Reports/rumors are that, as of the end of February, some Nvidia partners haven't even received desktop Fermi reference cards yet and I couldn't see why the one's that have would use their GPU supply to fill notebook orders.

Cut down mainstream Fermi GPUs aren't due for launch until this summer and even if Nvidia comes out with a mobile offering I'd guess you wouldn't be able to own a notebook with one until the end of the year Holiday Season. If, before that time though, they release a new rebranded GPU based on a 40nm G200 core then I'd expect Nvidia to make some money off that GPU and wouldn't start using Fermi tech in the mobile market until sometime in 2011.

 

I think I may just have to hold out on my next laptop until Fermi hits laptops with a decent power consumption. This is getting ridiculous if its another speed bump up and rebrand.

 

pretty sure that it is a clevo , because none make laptops with desktop components other than it
probably an 18 inch replacement for 9280?

 

doesn't matter ... ferni= fail... as far as power consumption goes...

 

It hasn't been released yet, so I wouldn't jump to conclusions.

 

actually no .... I know of 2 being worked on by 2 different people. Rivalry and competition pushes people to the max

 

LOL @soviet... seriously , i expect mobile GTX480 to run even more hotter and draw more power than the i7-975...

 

Indeed. But it is unlikely it will be Fermi-based seeing how much trouble they've had trying to get their desktop Fermi cards out. So maybe it won't be too long until G200 based cards are released.

Can a G200-based card support DX11? Cause the GTX200 desktop cards have no DX11 support, so if nvidia still stay with DX10 in their next gen mobile cards, it seems they will fall even more behind ATI as ATI already has mobile DX11 cards out and ATI is reportedly releasing Northern Islands (HD6000 cards) before the end of 2010.

haha true, although final power consumption for the desktop GTX 480/470 are not out yet. The mobility HD5870 is rated at 75W IIRC.

 

True, but did read that if you get a second GTX480 for SLI you need to increase your power to 250 watts. And if you have a single card, need 600 Watt standard, a minimum of 850 watts for SLI.

That isn't pretty for mobile. Considering how bad Nvidia has been in die shrinking, reducing temperatures and power usage in their high end mobile line...

The GTX260 on Asus runs around 90+, and the fan doesn't even go on until then as it's rated safe to 102C...

 

asus dpesm't count

Their cooling is lackluster ... My AW didnt go over 70c

 

And that's going counter to the 5870 mobile, which has a TDP of what, 60W? The 260M GTX is a 75W chip. The 5870 is a much faster card, much lower thermal budget... Nvidia doesn't have anything going for the mobile space in the near future at all. There's only one reason why they're so gung-ho about the hybrid graphics... it's the only way to make a notebook run an Nvidia card and still have almost acceptable battery life.

 

You do realize 1% of the market for notebooks even gives a hoo haw about high-end cards?

They really should be focusing on better budget and mid-range offerings than worrying about high-end, which is exactly what they have been doing.

They have just been just die shrinking and over clocking and have been almost staying with ATI, this must be costing them a lot less money.

 

50W actually

 

We all know that this is Clevo. No other company could pull this off.

 

w/e, the history repeats
nvidia will make monster cards at huge prices while ati will make medium cards for acceptable prices
and most of the games will still have the "the way its meant to be played" logo, live with it

 

When will we see the Nvidia GTX 480 in Laptops ?
2Q or 3Q this year ?
or is it better to get the 5870 for Laptop
(when thats out)
not comparing Price, need the Best there is

 

simple answer is we dont know

For the moment the 285's in sli are the best. As there are no 5870 crossfire models and from the sounds of the 4XX series i doubt we will see SLI soon either

 

Maybe in 2 years my guess. It will take them a LONG time to die shrink and manage power consumption on the GTX480...

If you mean a rebranded GPU named GTX480 who knows. I wouldn't hold my breath for it, I doubt it will be DX11 and possibly be another iteration of the G92.

I think some people forget the G200 is barely smaller than the FERMI. It's still gigantic.

 

You forgot about the 4870s. You'll be able to compare it with the M17xR2 when you get it but I would definitely bet the 4870XF will outperform 285M SLI in all synthetics and most gaming benchmarks.

 

Yeah but we dont play 3DMark benchmarks at all and GTX 285M SLI is better in real gaming

 

The problem is that for the next 6 months in the mobile space, ATI is making all the monster cards, and they're not horribly priced, and they use a lower thermal budget which is even more important in laptops than in desktops.

 

But someone just posted requirements for the Metro game. And all the requirements recommend an Nvidia card regardless of whether it's high end, mid range or minimal requirement.
- They even went as far as to recommend a GPU that doesn't even EXIST for consumers yet instead of saying HD5870/HD5970 etc...

So I don't see anything changing. Even if Nvidia dragged their feet for almost a year, and with all the horrible speculation on how bad the power consumption, heat and the yield rate in manufacturing, the gaming industry as a whole (Gamers/Developers) still favors Nvidia...

People can say they want saying Meant to be Played program doesn't mean much. I disagree completely. Having a game someone plays recommending they use Nvidia instead is massive, huge marketing for Nvidia. Ask ATi users switch to Nvidia? Whether the performance on Nvidia is higher or not doesn't matter. It's all about perception and it's working for Nvidia.

ATi needs to address this IMO.

 

It's the amount of resources Nvidia invests into software, if ATI want to change that, wait till they came up with their own shader language like Nvidia did, and give a whole physic library (PhysX) to developers for free (source code on demand and free for commercial license few years ago), developers are not going to help ATI if ATI don't help them, unlike Nvidia which provides them with so many development tools that makes their life easier.

 

Lol this thing is gonna weigh like 25 pounds
and its using DESKTOP components including the gtx480 right? lol should make a good foot warmer then..

anyways I guess for the most hardcore this would be feasible? assuming nvidia can even make enough chips lol.

 

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Lets avoid bickering and stay on topic.

 

The 4xx series are going to be Nvidia's teselation prototypes anyway, the 5xx series are going to be faulty free, therefore I won't be excited until 5xxm's start to hit laptops

 

^^ You're thinking way too far. These Fermi cards haven't been released and it's gonna take even more time to get them out ready for desktops. So it's gonna take forever before we could actually see a 18" monster with that kind of thing.

Or they might as well rename some cards and try to get away with it.

 

By the time Nvidia releases these cards, ATI will have something to counter them

 

well said +1... My thoughts exactly ... NVDIA's going to need a super card to stop ATI's momentum which i doubt is going to happen.

 

slightly off topic, but does anyone know if amd has plans to release a desktop 5870 based mobile chip? (i suppose it'd be called 5970m) It seems like they have the thermal budget to do so since according to the amd website, tdp of 5870 is only 50w.

 

They don't have to, and no reason to. ATi's mission isn't to create the greatest and most expensive, massive GPU possible like Nvidia.

AMD has stated clearly they are not in it to make the most powerful. If Nvidia wants to do it let them. Look at what Nvidia has had to go to even get the desktop GTX480 out the door? Delay after delay. And when it finally is released, everyone is just laughing...

Estimated cost $699? Yeah...

The few who waited for the FERMI, well some of the few probably already said, screw that, and bought themselves a HD5870 for half the cost.

And game developers know this. They are not going to make some insane game that only 5% of the gamers can play. Most gamers don't even have a HD5870, look at how many in this thread alone still use 9800, 8800, GTX260 in their mobile and Desktop rigs.

Making a game to showcase how awesome your game is not a good way to make money. A game that majority of people can play and enjoy good visuals and gameplay is. Look at the current gaming trend.

2 most highly anticipated games. Starcraft II and Diablo III. We all know both games will run on rigs running even 7800, 6800/HD2xxx-HD3xxx series fine. Blizzard is brilliant!

 

i just thought of something... when those GTX480 come out in desktops , they're gonna burn those desktops and ur power supply... and here comes the song...

Killing Joke - The Death and Resurrection Show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_j4Eq3ziE4

Burn Burn , Brightly , Burn Burn , Brightly...