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    Mobility Radeon 5870 - Performs ~ 30% better than GTX 260M...

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by CitizenPanda, Jan 6, 2010.

  1. Ahmed_p800

    Ahmed_p800 Notebook Evangelist

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    ^ so what was the conclusion???
     
    Ahmed_p800, Jan 7, 2010
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  2. KimoT

    KimoT Are we not men?

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    The consensus here seems to be that the new ATI card is better than the current top Nvidia chips, and that Nvidia has dropped the ball by not getting Fermi out. By how much better is debatable, and ATI's graph is not helping.
     
    KimoT, Jan 7, 2010
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  3. Phinagle

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    It's called GF100.
     
    Phinagle, Jan 7, 2010
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  4. key001

    key001 Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm more interested in how does 5870M perform compared to 5870...
     
    key001, Jan 7, 2010
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  5. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    Hmm....

    5780 > GTX 295 > 4870X2 > 4870 ≥ 5770 > 5750 ≥ 5870M
     
    Kevin, Jan 7, 2010
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  6. wolt87

    wolt87 Notebook Enthusiast

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    http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-5870.23073.0.html

    Already patting myself on the back for not waiting for this. Ati may have come up with new stuff but if it ain't that much better than the rererebranded nvidia chips, why bother? On the above site there is also a launch date for the 285m gtx, which will probably be on the same level with the ati card. Big fuss for nothing.
     
    wolt87, Jan 7, 2010
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  7. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Its up to nvidia really, if they release another g92 card (is it the g92 core they keep using?)
     
    catacylsm, Jan 7, 2010
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  8. HSN21

    HSN21 Notebook Deity

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    GF100 "Fermi" was benchmarked
    its 36% faster than 5870 I'm not sure if this is any imprrisve at all after all the hype and delays....

    i mean by the time it get released ati can release a refresh or something :/
     
    HSN21, Jan 7, 2010
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  9. Phinagle

    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    With Physx or without? :mask:
     
    Phinagle, Jan 7, 2010
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  10. CitizenPanda

    CitizenPanda Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    The desktop card is 2-3x faster.
     
    CitizenPanda, Jan 8, 2010
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  11. bagienny

    bagienny Notebook Consultant

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    Link or it didn't happen. And something genuine with real benchamarks, not some forum posts or such ;)
     
    bagienny, Jan 8, 2010
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  12. CitizenPanda

    CitizenPanda Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    RTM is Release to Manufacturing - it is the official version.
     
    CitizenPanda, Jan 8, 2010
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  13. neilnat

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    I'd believe the 36%, considering that the card is at least the size of a 5970 and has cooling issues so major NVidia is marketing a special case to house it, pretty much requiring it for SLI setups.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/news/thermaltake-nvidia-chassis-case,9385.html
     
    neilnat, Jan 8, 2010
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  14. wontonjon

    wontonjon Notebook Guru

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    was thinking the same thing when i saw the graph. how will the other 5800 gpus compare - e.g the 5850, 5830? i'm not very versed in how these gpus are packaged and am trying to figure out a lappie to buy...any comments/information would be welcome.
     
    wontonjon, Jan 8, 2010
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  15. JCMS

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    Yeah. Nvidia may have a $600 beast card, but if ATI can pull down the 5850 to $250. They still win.
     
    JCMS, Jan 8, 2010
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  16. rb420

    rb420 Notebook Geek

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    Other than the Asus G73, are there any other (confirmed) laptops scheduled to come out with the 5870 within the next few months?
     
    rb420, Jan 19, 2010
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  17. Phinagle

    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    MSI GX740

    10char
     
    Phinagle, Jan 19, 2010
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  18. maozdawgg

    maozdawgg Notebook Geek

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    Lololol........ :rolleyes:
     
    maozdawgg, Feb 10, 2010
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  19. ziddy123

    ziddy123 Notebook Virtuoso

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    BTW instead of whining about ATi's marketing material and bashing the HD5870, why don't you check out the thread for Asus G73 and ask people who OWN the mobile HD5870? Wouldn't that be a better idea instead of speculating and whining?

    Why is this thread talking about the GF100? That thing runs way too hot and way too much power to ever fit in a laptop.

    And the numbers for Mobility HD5870 actually exceeded what Notebook check and Asus found. Justin at XoticPC already has benched over 8000 on Vantage, close to 8500.

    For mobile use, the HD5870 is great card for performance if you don't want a humongous laptop that is still portable, run cool, and with decent battery life. I get 2 hours and 30 minutes on the G73 and the bottom NEVER gets hot. It gets warm, that's it.

    So far all week been playing Crysis Warhead at 1080p with all gamer settings and 4AA, Mass Effect 2 with all settings on, and FEAR 2 with everything maximum.

    Nvidia has had a long time to release something, so it's better, then it better be. But like someone else said, I wouldn't be surprised if ATi releases something later this year to keep up with Nvidia.
    - But for mobile use, I don't think Nvidia will release something much better. Just the heating, and power issues will keep the HD5870 competitive with anything Nvidia releases.
     
    ziddy123, Feb 10, 2010
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  20. maozdawgg

    maozdawgg Notebook Geek

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    It will be interesting to see what nvidia come up with in their next gen mobile gaming cards.

    The current GTX200Ms still runs on the older G92b core. And so Im guessing with the Fermi coming out, nvidia may release their next gen mobile cards to run on the GT200 core (desktop GTX200 equivalent) with naming GTX370M/GTX380M (Fermi will be named GTX470/480)

    BUt of course problem is they need to release DX11 support otherwise they won't be competitive at all with ATI.
     
    maozdawgg, Feb 10, 2010
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  21. anothergeek

    anothergeek Equivocally Nerdy

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    GTX 380M is derived from GT200, meaning it's 40nm, DX10.1, and uses GDDR5. Of course there's the possibility it will be 256-bit, but I wouldn't be so optimistic.

    Mobility 5870 is proving to be quite sufficient on a 128-bit bus with GDDR5.
     
    anothergeek, Feb 10, 2010
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