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    Modern Warfare 2 Averaging a 1.3/10

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Red_Dragon, Nov 11, 2009.

  1. Red_Dragon

    Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Ouch. Hope I don't have a big let down myself. Just rented it from Hollywood Video few hours ago, but my 360 is on it's way back from being repaired.

    *Yes, bash me for not getting on the PC*.
     
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    @tank: You actually did the smart thing by renting it. If it turns out you don't like it, no big deal. Plus, since the PC version is now practically identical, it will give you an idea on what that version will be like, though you never mentioned an interest in the PC version.

    I can't take 99% of those "reviews" seriously. Those "reviews" aren't based on actually experience with the game. They're just people still bitter over the server issue and want to rain on everyone's parade. I can't say the same thing about the 360 rating though. The PS3 rating is pretty much the same. Either people genuinely didn't like it on console or a few of the PC naysayers sneaked in there to spread the misery, which I don't entirely doubt.
     
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    I actually stopped taking reviews too serious when the Halo 3 reviews came out. I remember when i bought it and played it i was saying to myself, is this the same game that got all those good reviews?
     
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    let's see how IW will respond to this.
     
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    They won't need to. Businesses respond to sales, not arbitrary review numbers.

    Word of mouth will get around that the game rocks, despite what all the lamers and whiners say.
     
  7. Rorschach

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    Well played it for about a hour so far and while its a great game I'm not really seeing what the big hipe was for. Seems more like it should have just been download content for the previous COD 4.
     
  8. xTank Jones16x

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    I only rented it because of that reason exactly, lol. If I do like it, I might buy it, but I am a little bummed about the no Dedicated Servers, and hearing the CP is only 5 hours.... but we will see how it turns out.
     
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    I was skeptical about how short the SP was. Some people just blaze through it, you know? Well, my roommate started it at about 4:00 pm on Tuesday and finished by 10:00, with a break for dinner. He died quite a few times on normal difficulty, if that gives you an idea of his skill level. However, I'm sure you could extend that playing time to 8 hours or so on the hardest difficulty.
     
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    Yeah bro that deal is over.

    It was a preorder special only.
     
  13. ryo1000

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    i'm not sure IW has the right approach here. in an interview one of the guys from IW said the levels will get cut before the final stage. so they are taking the best levels and put them together to make a 5-6 hours experience. frankly, if they just include some of the not-so-good levels just to make the game a bit longer to like 7-8 hours, i think that would kind of justify the 60$ price tag.
     
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    Dang. I may try newegg then. Thanks for the info.
     
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    LOL. Never off the PC gaming community. I remember when the community reacted over Fox New's "Mass effect sexual content" BS review. Gamers bombed Amazons with one star reveiws.
     
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    I always knew this game would end this way. It's just an insipid blockbuster. I hope it'll become a console exclusivity. This kind of meaningless game has nothing to do on pc.
     
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    General rule for all things in life - If there is an insane level of hype around a product, you can almost be guaranteed it won't be that great of a product. Especially if all the hype comes from producers and advertisers.

    Haven't tried the game yet. I highly doubt I will. A 6-12 hour SP story line doesn't float my goat. Never was much of a fan of any of the COD games. Game play has always been so controlled and static. Modern gaming is moving toward a dynamic, open gaming platform, such as FC2, Crysis, GTA, Alan Wake, and countless others. The days of static game styles such as COD are limited.
     
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    Carefull talking about piracy here emike09, don't want you to get in trouble. :eek:
     
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    I miss the "controlled gaming experience" at least in the JRPG form. I don't really care for CoD's way of doing this since it's really the same stupid thing over and over with a few watercooler moments for good measure to break up the droll. However, controlling the experience I think is necessary for a game to really push a story and get it across to the player most effectively, however it seems more games have pushed the story aside for everything else, and while this could be a good thing, it is in other regards not a great thing since you the player can care about a character and how they do in the game world. This connection in turn keeps you playing and enjoying the game. RPGs and other more character driven titles work off this mechanic very well. While yes they can be open ended, they typically are not, or at least not in the same definition we tend to think like GTA.
     
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    then what will happen to those who don't own consoles!? :eek:
     
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    I believe HE is a SHE... but I digress.

    I am surprised it is so bad though. I am thoroughly disappointed that the single player game is so short. I thoroughly enjoyed the first Modern Warfare and thought that single player was a tad short, but very very enjoyable nevertheless.
     
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    Guys let wait a few months and see if dedicated servers come back or if modded versions of the game have it.

    Lol, that would be really funny, if the pirated modded version of the game with dedicated servers that infinity ward gets nothing from lives longer than the original game.
     
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    Yep, the masses are still blindly hating the game without even trying it.
     
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    I agree with this, but can you imagien COD in an open dyanmic gameplay like the games mentioned? it would be so epic. Can you say MW3?

    :)
     
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    Do you not understand the concept of STEAM? If any of us "try it" we there for HAVE to keep it now. You CANNOT remove games from a steam account, and you CANNOT get a refund once one is added to your steam account. There's no demo, so unless we throw down more than full price on this game and keep it, there's NO WAY to just try it.
     
  26. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    you'll have to watch the internet's videos (youtube) or play on a guinea pig friend's machine.

    I've been playing the game and LOVE it- especially co-op mode.

    granted, it could still be a step down from CoD4- i wouldn't know because I never played CoD4 online.
     
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    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Think about, how much could you possibly get by selling a game with a unique CD-key anyways? Maybe $15 at most. Most people would rather get a new copy knowing that the key has never been used before.

    As for the demo, you can try it out at a friends house, see whether you like it or not, and then decide whether you would like to purchase it or not.

    Either way, I do think it's wrong to prevent us from reselling the game (there has to be a law against that), but for now, it's still a fun game and will be for many more months, possibly years.
     
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    I dunno. I used to resell my games all the time. Pay full price $50 and within a couple weeks resell it for $25-$30. If you get it while it's still full retail price, it's not an issue.
     
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    I strongly oppose steam and what it is also. Can't stand having it on my system. I've never been a fan of digital downloads in any form, but Steam tops the list. Boxed copies have too much of an advantage to buy any other way, such as selling the game to a friend for a decent price when I'm done playing!
     
  30. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    are you sure? i thought they were regarding securom.
    a game rated mature has mature contents? OH NOES!!!
     
  31. tianxia

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    you know what? if they released a demo(with a MP portion), things could be very different.
    OT question, why TH are demos so rare now?
     
  32. Purlpo

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    Reviews of the game were bombed on Amazon because of securom.
    Fox News was the one bombed by gamers because of their incredible stupidity.
     
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    No they also bombed every book of the writer that came on the show where they discussed the game. One thing I've learned after dwelling on the interwebs for so long is that you do not off gamers and computer power users :D
     
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    to bad for you then that digitial distribution is the future :(

    I am sure STEAM will eventually release some sort of sharing, resale, return system or something, they aren't stupid - they're just milking us now why they can.
     
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    Well I sure as heck am not buying this game now.......doesn't mean I won't play it :D
    I may buy it in the future if I like it.....and when I have the money.
     
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    Pathetic, i would've bought this game too if it wasn't for the multiplayer issue, instead i just borrowed it from my friend who doesn't care and I'm having fun with the SP :p
     
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    I still don't understand this. People who have never played the game are trashing it. The single player campaigns of CoD have always been excellent. Well, at least the CoDs from IW.

    Oh well. I'm not the one missing out on the fun. Enjoy your non-excellent FPS experience.

    And if you consider yourself a veteran of FPSes yet played through the campaign on normal, you deserve to be sold into slavery.
     
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    As I see it...

    The single player, although even if incredible, is taking people less than 4 hours to beat. Regardless of the game, 4 hours is just insulting.

    As far as multi-player, which should pick up for the lack of single player, is also gimped. They completely destroyed the MP replay value by not including dedicated servers and only 9v9 games. No mods, no options, no choosing best ping, no admins, no console....no replay value.

    Considering there is no SP value and limited MP, I really can't justify dishing out $60 for this. Especially considering this is the 3rd COD game they've pumped out on the same engine...same game. I was sick of COD5 after 20 minutes.
     
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    This is why I haven't gotten ODST...
     
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    meh. i really hate when people review a game before they play it, wether they review it good or not. i also hate when people review a decent game a terrible score just to make a stand.

    what i think would be a good stand is if the community modded cod4 to have all the same features as cod6. that would be legendary.
     
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    What multiplayer issue? Have you not read anything from people who have actually played? Even the biggest skeptics so far have been impressed with MP, its A LOT of fun!

    My goodness get over it... lol


    Can't understand it either... its like throwing a temper tantrum like my 6year old cousin when his mom insists he eat his vegetables, funny this is once I saw him freak out because he didn't want to eat summer squash.... finally after a huge tantrum he finally had some and loved it...

    It is nuts though, bashing of a game they won't even try because they ASSUME SP is crap, and MP is crippled, even though several skeptics who were adamantly against the changes have also agreed that the new MP system is actually quite good, and the 9v9 action is more enganging/intense and fun than the cluster F of COD4.


    Seriously, now ya'll are just being stubborn and close minded give it a chance!! its been 1 day!
     
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    I heard the game is fun and intense. I also heard it is quite lonely with fewer people available on the maps, considering some maps are bigger than the CoD4 Maps. Some love it, some hate it.

    Why is that? Because unlike CoD4, they just don't give you a choice. MW2 of course is a great game, but it is also a step back in multiplayer capabilities and choices.

    I agree that reviewing the game without trying it is just BS but it is a fact how lacking in features the MP compared to CoD4. It was all about getting a choice on how you like to play the game.

    I am skipping this game because the game is not worth $60 to me, and I consider the lack of features in MP to be enough reason to wait for another excellent game to come out. I don't need to settle for less.

    That beign said... All IW games are good, and whomever consider this game bad is lying to themselves.
     
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    Fair enough, I have heard some of the maps are HUGE.... so who knows maybe they will increase max player limits.

    I like dedicated servers as much as the next guy, a step back maybe - but I think its more like a sidestep. If they could figure a way to improve p2p servers it would be great, plus now that most people are getting Fiber or high speed cable connections, the purpose of dedicated servers is being reduced they just aren't as nessacary as they once were.

    Ok glad you agree its BS - but you're doing it too, ask USApatriot, a huge skeptic of MP hes tried it and said there are EVEN more features in this versions MP than COD4, more unlockables, more uniqueness, well.... more features..

    Can you rent it and give it a try first? You may change your mind, plus again your basing these "lack of MP features" comments on what? Have you tried it?
    The only thing lacking imo is the larger maps feel small with 9v9, but the gameplay is amazing, there are technically MORE features etc. too.

    Either which way, you should at least give it a rent to test it out before you decide to pass compleletly. I think you would find you enjoy the MP (its like speedball now) and the SP camp. is really fun
     
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    A buddy of mine is a manager at a local gamestop. I went in yesterday after work to pick up some stuff.
    Asked him how the sales of the PC version of MW2 are.

    The store was still packed with people buying the console versions. He said that about 97% of the reserves for the PC version got cancelled over the weeked. The other 3% either cancelled since or had still not picked up the game.
     
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    The lack of features is the lack of mods, custom maps, rules and bigger battlefields. I am a fan of big wars, which is why certain games like battliefield and the previous CoD were fine to me. I grow bored on 6v6, but I don't think those are inherently bad at all, just not my thing. I think you are mistaking features in multiplayer with the new additions (or more like changes) they did. Some killstreaks for example, are already present on CoD4 thanks to mods. Perks, killstreaks etc can only last you so long. After all is said and done, I LOVe playing random maps created by people, I personally enjoy that. Now you can't have those. Hell, you might need to PAY for those, which is a big no-no for me.

    The game is heavily focused on smaller fights, which again is not bad on its own, it is not exactly of my licking. I am not condoning the game saying it is the worst game ever, but just as some people are pushing it saying it sucks and you shouldn't buy it, you are pushing it to give it a chance as if everyone suddenly likes FPS like that. usapatriot and others jumped on the hate bandwagon for all the wrong reasons. they pictured the game would suck by .... I don't know what the hell they were thinking. I know what the game has, I know what it doesn't.

    Matchmaking IS a good idea. Lack of dedicated servers is not along with other features. I don't mind having matchmaking at all, but lack of custom maps, mods, overall customization, big battles etc just kills it for me. If I ever play it, it would be only for the SP but then again that is quite a short ride so I don't feel like spending even MORE money on a game that took out the plus factors of the previous games.

    There is more out there than CoD MW2, and to be honest from the videos etc that I have seen, nothing screams : PLAY ME NOW!! like CoD4 did. I KNOW the game is one of quality, but fun is entirely subjective and I don't think that the decisions they made are my cup of tea, so I am simply not buying it and getting another game instead.
     
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    Psh, 4 hours on normal difficulty.

    I hate this crap. It is like when reviewers play through the game on easy difficulty because they are on a schedule. Yet playing it on such an easy difficulty shields you from some of the brilliance in the game cause you are moving so fast and allowed to use the same boring tactics over and over again without any kind of creativity.
     
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    How else are people going to get Activision's attention without giving the game a bad review score and affecting sales? Petitions? Guess what, they didn't give a ... and just ignored it completely. A lot of people are not just gonna stand and accept the "improved" COD; they will whine (or protest) about it (myself included, thought I haven't given any bad review) whether you like it or not or if you think it's stupid.
     
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    there is no 'war' in this game.
    it's like playing 'war' in your neighborhood back in the days :)
     
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    Slaughterhouse Knock 'em out!

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    lol wow some people are such immature little babies. If you read the somewhat unbiased reviews, they're all rather stellar. It's when you start getting into the "no dedicated servers = epic fail" zone where people start giving it a 1/10. Grow up, it's still an amazing game and still fun!
     
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    the PC version is solid. Well optimized, getting good framerates (minus my downclocking card) but yeah. I bought it on 360 and on Steam lol.. just wanted to play campaign/spec ops on 360 before I resold it and play MP on steam..I like keyboard mouse for competitive play. Anyway.. I've noticed a positive remark toward MW2 PC will get claims I work for IW so, byebye
     
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