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    Modern cellphone gaming

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by MSIfanboy, Jan 8, 2012.

  1. MSIfanboy

    MSIfanboy Notebook Consultant

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    SO i was checking out some games for my LG smart phone and i came over this

    Modern Combat 3 Fallen Nation - Mission 3 - iPad 2 - HD Video Walkthrough - Part 7 - YouTube

    What happend to playing snake on your Nokia 3310!!??

    This is simply INSANE how good the graphic is for a mobile cell phone, i cant believe my eyes! I guess in 1 or 2 years we can play Cryssis 2 on our phone and hook it up to a HD tv and than throw all our gaming consoles and computers away... :D
     
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    I'm still trying to finish Angry Birds
     
  3. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    not that fast :) maybe in 4-5 years, still it IS insane to have this kind of graphics on ipad 2 (which equals iphone 4s) crazy!

    btw oh man, good old days, the only dude with 3310 in the school bus was going crazy too because we were taking his phone to play snake :D
     
  4. MSIfanboy

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    Yeah, i play this game on my LG optimus 990 and it blows my mind!
    I miss the 3310 days though on junior high
     
  5. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    man this would look crazy indeed on a little iphone screen :)
     
  6. Voodooi

    Voodooi AFK for a while...

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    One of the most mindblowing games I've seen thus far was a smartphone MMO which looks and acts identical to World of Warcraft. It's about 6.99$ for the game and 0.99$/per month thereafter.

    "Order & Chaos" -
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LszWwEWQrR0

    Order & Chaos Online Gameplay Review (iPhone & iPad) - YouTube

    (works for Android as well)

    Besides this MMO, I've also tried Pocket Legends and Star Legends, which are also entertaining.

    I'm also a big fan of tower defence games.

    The best tower defence game I found is:
    https://market.android.com/details?...edefence.hd&feature=apps_topselling_paid_game
    I've invested at least 25hrs+ into it and still love it.
     
  7. Rambisco

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    Gameloft is a huge portion of those super graphic games. They also do every genre.
     
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    i think it will be sooner than that- if you were on android. you dont need to push as many pixels in a smaller screen. look :

    NVIDIA Tegra 3: Developers Bring Next-gen Games to Mobile - YouTube
     
  9. foodies

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    App MMOs? This is the first I've heard of it. I guess I'm slow in the cellular device department. I can't even imagine it.
     
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    Yup!

    And you can get Gameboy / NES / SNES / SEGA emulators too and play all your favourite classics.

    Smartphones have come a long way :)

    Just don't mind the negative comments on smartphone MMORPG videos. Those are noobs who have purchased 100$ Android phones expecting to play current games with modern requirements - It's no different than purchasing an NES cartridge and then crying because it doesn't work on the Wii :p

    nVidia Tegra 3 is coming next month (but may be pushed as far as April '12), which will make smartphone gaming even better, so it's best to delay a smartphone purchase until then if anyone reading this is going to buy one beforehand.
     
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    try jelly defense. so much better than grave defense in every way
     
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    I've been playing Asphalt Adrenaline 6 from Gameloft. Decent Racing game.
     
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    been playing majesty the kingdom sim. takes me back to good ole days.
    one of my fav pc games is now on my phone.
     
  14. be77solo

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    Yeah, I'm always impressed with how good these games look... I'm a big Android fan and play on a Razr and Xoom, but it always come back to the same basic problem... the controls simply are horrible... touch screen gaming is never going to be good enough in my opinion. I keep buying the games thinking I'll like them, but get so annoyed after 5 minutes I always give up.

    Not sure what the solution to that problem is ever going to be... I occasionally will use my Xbox 360 controller on the few games that support it, and I recently purchased the Onlive Universal controller, but it's only for Onlive app...

    Not to mention carrying a controller around isn't exactly convenient mobile gaming ha
     
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    epic war TD is a good ipad/iphone game
     
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    Turn based or tower defence type games usually play good on phones, but since im using a dev build of Cyanogen 9 on my GT-I9100 i cant play games on it.
    Its either unstable or start heating up.
     
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    I find Infinity blade 1 and 2 to be really nice games, though i mostly play MC3 on my Samsung galaxy s2, the only prob with that game is that IMO it can be a bit hard to aim... :/
     
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    Hmmm....Might be time to root my G2x so I can have an ICS. :D
     
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    Even though graphics have advanced significantly, controlling games like this with a touchscreen is absolutely horrendous and the gameplay is pathetic. The video in the first post looked like an absolute chore and zero fun. Moving around the map seems 10 times more difficult then the actual combat!

    This is one of the reasons I buy QWERTY phones. Unfortunately, I have not seen any high-end ones lately. Gaming is MUCH more fun with actual buttons. It's the gameplay that matters, not graphics. Heck, Snake would actually be more fun than that horrible FPS game.

    Don't forget that you can emulate PlayStation 1 games on today's phones as well, but good luck trying to control them. Same goes for GTA3.

    Do current Android games at least support tilt (accelerometer) controls? Back in the days of the good ol' Nokia N95, I had written tilt support for the Quake 3 port for the N95 and it worked surprisingly well. I used tilting for looking around and controlling the mouse in the menu, D-pad for running/strafing, camera button for shooting, volume buttons for switching weapons and some other key that I can't remember for jumping, and I could actually play against medium bots no problem!

    (Yeah, you could actually play Quake 1, 2 and 3 (!) on a Nokia on the highest graphics settings and FSAA, with online multiplayer over WLAN or 3G (even against a PC), with support for a bluetooth mouse and/or keyboard, and TV-out, before the iPhone 1 was even released. (Well, Q3 came shortly after the Jesusphone.) Come to think of it, current high-end mobile graphics on Android are not actually that much better than Q3, lol.)
     
  20. jeremyshaw

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    I played through Infinty Blade II;

    still play Tower Madness (well worth it, IMO), both GeoDefense games, and whatever new game that I like.

    People who are bashing the touchscreen for nontactile feedback... get over it. It's a phone, not a portable FPS machine. Then again, my friends think I'm an idiot for playing FPS games on my touchpad (then again, they think twich reaction time = all there is to winning FPS games).
     
  21. Geekz

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    some games like heavy gunner 3d and aftermath HD are pretty fun to play and the controls even on a touchscreen is quite good.

    and yep android supports controlling with the accelerometer.
     
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    Android also supports using a game controller

    Sent from my samsung galaxy s2 using tapatalk
     
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    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    yeah but i wish they had better 3d games for android.
     
  24. H.A.L. 9000

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    Well, the limiting factor in Android gaming is NVIDIA, actually. To get NVIDIA certification on your game or title you have to develop it with special texture compression techniques and such. It also has to be optimized to work with NVIDIA's proprietary OpenGL binaries. Phones like the Galaxy S II and Galaxy Nexus have much better GPU's than the NVIDIA Tegra 3, along with MUCH more memory/GPU bandwidth.

    So the limiting factor with Android is NVIDIA, IMO. The technology in Tegra 3 is just sad compared to what is going to launch in the next two months. NVIDIA had a chance to wait and fab Tegra 3 on a 28NM process, but they didn't want to wait. So now they have a quad-core that will never have the power or TDP savings of the newer SoC's, along with being a Cortex A9 instead of the upcoming Cortex A15 cores. The Samsung Exynos 5250 and the new TI OMAP 5 will blow Tegra 3 out of the water and they'll only be dual core designs.
     
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    TI OMAP 5 is gonna be MEAN!
     
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    True.
    I wish there were more exynos native games. But there is always chain fire to use tegra only games on exynos gpus.
    Ah the beauty of open source.

    Sent from my samsung galaxy s2 using tapatalk
     
  27. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    Some Tegra 2 only games have already been ported to the other GPUs used in the more popular mobile phones and tablets running Android.
    I remember Sprinkle and Riptide HD only install and run on Tegra 2 hardware (Unless Chainfire 3D was used) but now its even bundled for free on the Samsung Marketplace.

    Im gonna stay with my Galaxy S 2 for a while but my next purchase might be something like the Galaxy Note.
    Its like the perfect Tablet formfactor and still small enough to act like a phone. :)
     
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    I think touch controls could definitely use some work, but I can't think of anything better for a touchscreen. I think a phone with two buttons on the back to press with your pointer/middle finger would be a great idea
     
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    The graphics have gotten very good for cell phones this past year. They went from primitive 3D with a low polygon count to nearly PS2 quality. Mind you, the control scheme is abysmal for 3D gaming and it shows in the top purchased apps list for the Android Market and App Store.
     
  30. Magnus72

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    I game a lot on my smartphone and since Android is behind IOS in newer games I switched over and bought an Iphone 4s. The difference in raw 3D performance in games between Galaxy S2 an Iphone 4s is pretty significant since the Iphone 4s basically has two physical GPU´s on board and a unified architecture much like the current notebook and desktop GPU´s which either the Tegra 2 nor MALI GPU has. No wonder games runs so much better on Iphone 4s.

    Just look at Modern Combat 3 on 4s vs my older LG Optimus 2x and Galaxy s2 or Nova 2 that runs at a steady 60 fps on 4s.

    Modern Combat 3 doesn´t run any better on Galaxy S2 than LG Optimus 2x either since I have compared the both side to side. I have compared many games and the MALI while good in benchmarking isn´t that fast in actual 3D gaming actually.

    Touchscreen controls works really well when you get used to it.

    Sadly developers release games first for IOS, just look at Gamelof that released Modern Combat 3 several months behind on Android or there newer Gangstar Rio that hasn´t even been released to Android yet. I like Android a lot but when it comes to gaming the developers has the IOS as primary gaming platform.

    EA is going to release Battlefield 3 excusive to IOS and one gets quite angry at such statements but I can say the Iphone 4s is top notch performer when it comes to gaming also remember that the Iphone 4s has to push more pixels than Galaxy S2 or LG Optimus 2x since the resolution is higher. No wonder Apple threw in the same strong GPU as there is in the Ipad 2 althoug Ipad 2´s CPU is clocked at 1GHz vs Iphone 4s 800MHz, GPU though is probably clocked as high on both.

    Though people really underestimate Tegra 2 when it comes to gaming, it´s a really good GPU when it comes to gaming, whether it would be the actual GPU or drivers from Nvidia that does it.

    I have quite a few games recorded off my LG Optimus 2x:

    Modern Combat 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP5873_12qI

    Modern Combat 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymFq7N6ENGg

    Quake 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0-3HsDsPUM

    Asphalt 6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAOlM1MooI4

    Backstab http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F52iCIad_I

    Shadow Gun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DDNS4HK1Yo

    Hockey Nations 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXjUxwNoLHQ

    Minecraft http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4XljkKk2oI

    TinTin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTC14BklTQw

    Shadow Guardian http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa6Yx2oqCH4

    Nova 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8sw3q2dNck

    Gangstar Vindication http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FAi1WkMpII

    Dead Space http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCF1Aa-EF6o

    Brothers in Arms 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc1_FQdZ5Jw
     
  31. Mitlov

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    So far I've steered clear of Gameloft games. I don't like how blatantly they rip off other peoples' games, even though they're offering them for a different platform (i.e., mobile or OSX).

    Here's a partial list of Gameloft ripoffs: http://www.cultofmac.com/96989/thes...ff-for-their-app-store-doppelgangers-gallery/. And I mean partial; it doesn't include, for example, Backstab HD (aka Assassin's Creed), etc.

    The most fun I've had on my Kindle Fire is Plants Versus Zombies. Not graphics intensive, but incredibly fun, and very well-suited for the touchscreen. Cut the Rope deserves mention as well--a far superior physics-based puzzle game than Angry Birds.
     
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    It has to do with the actual structure of Mali. It's built for 2D rendering over 3D. 3D wise it can't really handle complex scenes any better than an SGX540 or Tegra 2. With 2D rendering or OpenVG it stomps Tegra 2 and SGX540.

    But those facts aside, the Apple A5's GPU (SGX543 MP2+) has about 3-4x the power of pretty much all the current platforms.

    It's a so-so GPU. NVIDIA forces texture compression, because without it games wouldn't run near as smooth. NVIDIA also uses a different type of renderer than PowerVR. PowerVR's is MUCH more efficient.
     
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    Yeah I agree HAL when I have seen both Tegra 2 and SGX543 MP2+ in action now. Definitely the fastest mobile cellphone GPU out there for now.
     
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    Well you have go give Gameloft some cred too they release the best looking smartphone games out there, sure some other games come close but Modern Combat 3 I think is definitely the best looking smartphone game out there now.
     
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    I guess you have more resources to put towards good-looking graphics when you don't have to spend any resources on developing unique gameplay or plots or anything like that...
     
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    have you played a game that has been specifically optimized for the exynos processor of the sgs2? they are buttery smooth, so much so that even my iphone 4s toting fanboi friends are impressed. and the best thing is that they are offered for free on samsungapps. these are 5-10usd apps on the app store being offered for free!

    android and samsung forever!
     
  37. H.A.L. 9000

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    Indeed, to both of you. Modern Combat does look really good, especially on my Playbook... but it is a direct rip-off of established console/PC games. Same goes for pretty much all the Gameloft games; NOVA 1/2, Modern Combat 1/2/3, Backstab HD, Asphalt 5/6.

    My personal favorite mobile game ATM is Dead Space. Awesome graphics, and the actual controls are pretty decent.
     
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    Tower Madness.
    Also GeoDefense/Swarm.
    Conquest (risk clone - stayed with me since the PocketPC days)
    Phoenix HD
    New Orbit.


    Kinda obvious I have an iPhone now. Of note, owned a Galaxy SII (the TW Intl version, not the ones that have been mangled by American telcos), Focus S (WP7 in GSII frame), HTC Titan, Moto Atrix, and now this. Had many others, still have Titan and Atrix somewhere. Need them for dev work, otherwise, would ditch both (in most phones, I prefer the width of the 4.3" 800x480 [~16:9.5 aspect ratio] displays - would need a ~4.7" 16:9 display to get that). Titan is too large in the wrong way, Atrix is too small in the wrong way.
     
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    Mitov it doesn´t matter, MALI GPU is still nowhere near the GPU in Iphone 4s, with the raw 3D power that GPU has I think you too would be amazed if a game would be specifically optimized for that GPU.

    I like Android and actually prefer Android over IOS but you have to realize that the MALI GPU is nowhere near the raw 3D performance of Iphone 4s GPU.

    Also it has not so much do to with optimization, games generally runs smoother on the 4s than SGS2. I think the SGS2 is overhyped actually, it is very good in benchmarks and such but actual 3D performance in games isn´t even better than Tegra 2 even Non Tegra optimized games.

    I have the LG Optimus 2x rooted so I have played lots lots of 3D games on it and tried on the SGS2 and I am not impressed at all by the MALI GPU.
     
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    @Magnus--I don't think that response for me. The only Mali I know anything about is a landlocked country in west Africa...

    @HAL 9000--I've been debating getting Dead Space for the Kindle Fire. Glad to know it's good.
     
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    Mitov don´t you know that the GPU in SGS2 is named MALI-400?
     
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    I was just joking around with you because I hadn't said anything about smartphones or GPUs at all, yet you directed a response (which I think was meant for either travelbug or HAL) to me.
     
  43. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    It's not what you think it is; it's an app to act as a portal for store.steampowered.com features.
     
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    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    I know what it is, it enables me to chat with people on my Steam friend list.
     
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    Oh, my bad then. I thought you thought it was Steam games for the iPhone/Android phones.
     
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    I'll wait for it to get out of beta. I want to make sure their using a secure protocol for this.

    Sent from my samsung galaxy s2 using tapatalk
     
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    Not only is it encrypted, but it's also a proprietary and closed protocol. No one will be snooping on your mobile steam chatting without a warrant and help from valve.
     
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    No problem Mitov :)
     
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    i just finally got the video to play.

    that is something else unreal
     
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