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    Mx150 VS the older gpus

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by JRE84, Dec 13, 2017.

  1. JRE84

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    I noticed the mx150 scores as high as a overclocked 6990m and was wondering if buying a ultra book Lenovo 720s was worth it for medium . Low. Light gaming. And does anyone know if tb3 in it supports egpus.

    What are your thoughts on the mx150 and do you find it amazing having 860m power inside something 0.61 in thick.


    Thoughts
     
  2. HTWingNut

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    Here's some gaming examples with MX150. Not Lenovo 720s, but same GPU (skip to about 3:50 in video)

     
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    I don't know why there isn't more fuss about the mx150 but having that much power and such a slim form factor is truly amazing and a sign that computers are advancing at an incredible rate
     
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    To be honest, it's still underpowered IMHO. We were stuck with 840m/940m/940mx (only minor improvements for each) for nearly 3.5 years. The 150MX is its successor and its biggest saving grace is the fast GDDR5 vRAM, but it's still only 384 cores on a 64-bit bus just like the 940MX.
     
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    Wow.. that little thing handling modern games at 720p is pretty awesome. Nice little traveling gamer..
     
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    Sarcasm

    It handles modern games at 1080p medium settings. Not sure why you think it's 720p
     
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    Because the video of a unit with the GPU in it posted a few posts before mine had a bunch of 720p tests. Looked like it was handling those well. A few were in the 30's, which I doubt would happen at 1080p, thought I agree quite a few games could be handled at 1080p and stay above 30.

    I wasn't being sarcastic, looks like a nice little inexpensive laptop that can travel well and play some games.
     
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    Depends on the game, but most current games would run 30-40FPS at best with medium details at 1080p. I wouldn't say it's a 1080p GPU. If you want any amount of detail and not have frame drops into the low 20's, it's best to run at 720p IMHO.
     
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    Oh ok... I thought it could handle 1080p
     
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    I think it would be nice if low end dedicated GPUs could guarantee playable fps at medium settings and 1080p on most current gen games
     
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    I'm sure we will see a GPU do that at some point with low power requirements, but the tech just isn't quite there yet. Close.
     
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    For 650 dollars on Newegg you can get the cheapest MX150, or for 700 you can grab the cheapest 4GB 1050 (Non Ti)
    The MX150 hasn't taken over the super low bargain price point the 940MX was yet, so it's not as appealing as it could be. Stuff it in the spot where the 940 used to go, around 400 on sale to 500 starting and you have a much more compelling cheap chip. Right now, it's overpriced compared to the 1050's.
     
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    If it's a matter of just getting a laptop with best bang for your buck, then yes, 1050 is definitely a better option. However, if you're looking for a thin and light with decent gaming performance, 150MX is about your only option.
     
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    The price is fair imo because the MX150 is a new GPU and the performance of it is not only greater than the 940MX but the 950m GDDR5 version as well.

    https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDI...pecs-of-the-GT-1030-for-Laptops.223530.0.html

    Ofc the 940mx laptops are going to be at a bargain price these days since Maxwell is now a old architecture. Personally if i going for a thin and light laptop i would rather have a MX150 inside than a 1050 because of possible cooling issues
     
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    Yeah I thought I was alone on this..

    Your basically getting a 960m and 4700mq in something half a inch thick and 2.5pounds...just sounds impressive on paper I suppose. Not so much in real world testing. Can you guys imagine a 1080ti performance in something even smaller... It's only 3 generations away at this point..

    Mx150 is basically a 6990m and it jumped two generations so 3 times 2 is 6...the low end in 3 generations will be 6 generations from the 6990m and a flagship. And by then 8k will be the norm.. The laptops will still rock 1080p much like laptops still rock 768p displays. And 1080p with 1080ti power will run all games maxed till 16k becomes common place.

    After 16k nothing will be done to bump it to 32k or 64k because it's irrelevant to our eyes.
     
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    A few years back I would have agreed no problem, but there are more thin and light laptops than ever with increasingly powerful solutions. The Zenbook UX430UN is a great example- it is roughly the same thickness as the Dell XPS 15 which is only -.03 inches at tallest point with a slightly smaller chassis (Around same depth, 1.5 inches less width) which includes an i5-7300 and 4GB GTX 1050 - for a cheaper price.
    If price doesn't define the MX150 then you might as well compare it to the Razer Blade which has much more powerful hardware. The Surface Book 2 is a great example as well, though these may throttle- but even with throttling still provide better performance. The GT 1030 [A 70 dollar desktop card] aka MX150 is an entry level part, and should have replaced the 940MX, not taken a slot in between the 940/1050.
     
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    How is it cheaper? You can get the UX430UN for $999 with 512GB SSD, 16GB RAM, 1080p LCD. Comparable XPS 15 costs $1600. It's also 60% heavier and a bit bigger. I can find a lot better bargain for $1600. Not sure how well that thin chassis can cool a 45W TDP CPU and likely 50W TDP GPU. The UX430UN can barely manage a 15W TDP CPU and 25W TDP GPU.
     
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    Whoops, I will say that ones my fault, I saw on the config page the 949 it didn't show that the GPU + CPU upgrade was 150 total. That's still 1099 though. I usually don't count RAM / HDD price though some might since I usually swap them myself. I can't find any of the UX430 for that price with the GPU though. They all list HD 620 only at the 999 price point (that I can find). My bad on the Dell.

    Edit: Found one for 1169 on Amazon with GPU, also, didn't realize this the UX430 only comes with DDR3 unless that Amazon ad is a misprint.