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    NFS Carbon: Not meant to perform?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by J-Bytes, Sep 23, 2007.

  1. J-Bytes

    J-Bytes I am CanadiEEEn NBR Reviewer

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    Alright, I have tried NFS Carbon on 3 laptops with the following cards, a an X1400, 8600m GDDR2, 8600m GDDR3, and a desktop with an 8600 gts. Performance was very mediocre on all of them; The game would be kind of playable but stutter endlessly if I raised the resolution above 800 x 600! Is NFS Carbon simply meant to be played on an 8800?
     
  2. Stone825

    Stone825 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Alright here is the problem with the game. Your computer is not at fault for this at all. I haven't played it on the computer, but I'm pretty sure that EA just got lazy. EA games has been getting lazy on quality control recently. They are just thinking "This game is going to sell for consoles, but no one is going to buy this for PC, so why bother optimizing it at all?" Because of that, you need a super high end computer to run a game that shouldn't need anything more then what you have. The other problem is that for some reason, the game just doesn't like Nvidia cards.

    I hope that this helps you out, and because I had some extra time, I went and researched your issue online and came up with this "demo" review.

    http://www.elitebastards.com/cms/in...sk=view&id=193&Itemid=29&limit=1&limitstart=3
     
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    trooper_gs Notebook Consultant

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    I am sorry to inform you that both of you are mistaken. I play NFS Carbon with my Stock Asus W3J with ATI X1600 Omega Drivers with all the settings to the max. I can even return to windows to hibernate then continue playing in the morning. Therefore you might have driver problems. I had a problem before I updated to Omega Drivers.
     
  4. J-Bytes

    J-Bytes I am CanadiEEEn NBR Reviewer

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    I didn't have 4 comps in a row w/driver problems; there was something bigger than that
     
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    mathx Notebook Geek

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    odin243 Notebook Prophet

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    Max settings on a MR x1600? What resolution? I'm inclined to say that's not possible. It does like ATI cards better, but the differential's not that great.
     
  7. imhungry29

    imhungry29 Notebook Evangelist

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    try turning off the motion blur. that is a killer for ur GPU. i play at 1440 x 900 with everything maxed and motion blur off and it plays fine. when i enable motion blur i get about a 10 fps drop. i think its because ur trying to play a relatively new game on a laptop with a midrange Graphics card.
     
  8. J-Bytes

    J-Bytes I am CanadiEEEn NBR Reviewer

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    Well you have an Alienware! I still have a G2S but still... you can't really compare!
     
  9. J-Bytes

    J-Bytes I am CanadiEEEn NBR Reviewer

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    You know what, what I really want to know here is this: I just got a high-end G2S-A1, and I was expecting great gaming performance. The only game I've tested so far is NFS Carbon which ran mediocre, and now I'm worried there's something wrong w/my G2S. Can someone please assure me I shouldn't worry about my G2S and Carbon running like this is "normal" :eek:

    Thanks!
     
  10. J-Bytes

    J-Bytes I am CanadiEEEn NBR Reviewer

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    And I have a 8600m GDDR3
     
  11. lowlymarine

    lowlymarine Notebook Deity

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    I can't assure you that nothing is wrong with your machine, but I can assure you that problems running NFS:Carbon do not indicate a problem with your machine. My 640MB GeForce 8800GTS has issues maintaining 25+ FPS at 1680x1050, full settings, 8xAF/4xAA. An 8600M GT isn't going to have a prayer. The game also scales very poorly, resolution wise - I could run it at 1280x800 on my Inspiron 9300 at all high (except motion blur) settings with 4xAA, but couldn't apply any AA at all at 1440x900, and had to turn a couple more details down. AA has a massive impact too. So basically - turn off motion blur, turn off any anti-aliasing, and keep the resolution down - you're never going to get 1920x1200 out of an 8600M GT in a modern game anyways. Also, consider using modded drivers and, as a last resort, XP. Vista knocks an average of 5-10 fps off in this game on my desktop, though it's better with the latest XTreme-G sets.
     
  12. J-Bytes

    J-Bytes I am CanadiEEEn NBR Reviewer

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    Why does the game run so poorly though?
     
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    Because it's poorly optimized for PC video cards.
     
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    darkcond0 Notebook Evangelist

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    It runs fine at medium settings 800x600 for me.. Thoguh whenever I play it the car always turns right without me doing anything :mad:
    Anyone else have this problem?
     
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    Mimino Notebook Communist

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    damn, last year i was able to play this game 1024*768 with med-some high settings on mobility9700! lol i guess, the game is not optimized for nvidia cards.
     
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    Unplug your controler/gamepad or controler converter(eq:usb>ps/xbox)
     
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    i play this game at 1024*768 with no problem on mine. i have motion blur turned off. i dont like that blur anyway.
     
  18. J-Bytes

    J-Bytes I am CanadiEEEn NBR Reviewer

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    I'm getting sik of it... it's non stop stuttering. i want my money bak :(
     
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    runs lousy on my system as well... sigh...
    better stick with Most Wanted, which ironically runs perfectly on Vista, even though it's couple years old....
     
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    Mimino Notebook Communist

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    try to lower the res... i run it on 1280*800 and have no problems...yet :)
     
  21. J-Bytes

    J-Bytes I am CanadiEEEn NBR Reviewer

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    I run it in the lowest res with the lowest settings, but stuttering and "jumps" are too frequent for comfort :(
     
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    Are you serious? Is this on the machine in your sig? It's not an issue with your hardware if that's true, because I can run it at lowest settings and res on an overclocked 7300 with no stuttering (frame rate isn't great, but there's no skips or jumps).
     
  23. J-Bytes

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    the skips aren't devastating; they're more irriatating
     
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    Try doing a clean boot.

    I had the same issue on my system with an x1600MR video card. It only ran when i had omega drivers installed, but still stuttering. Once i did a clean boot, it worked fine. I was able to play it with med-high settings without problems.
     
  25. J-Bytes

    J-Bytes I am CanadiEEEn NBR Reviewer

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    1. I have Vista

    2. I don't know what a clean boot is

    3. I doubt there's such a mirace solution; from what I've heard the game simply isn't optimized well enough
     
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