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    NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS V.S. NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by hiddensanctum, Jul 4, 2007.

  1. hiddensanctum

    hiddensanctum Notebook Evangelist

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    How big is the difference between NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS V.S. NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT?
     
  2. nite owl

    nite owl Notebook Enthusiast

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    Either one will get you through whatever you need ok for the next year or two. Just depends whether you'll have the graphic settings set all the way to high or not. But the 8400M G will do just fine.
     
  3. iph03n1xi

    iph03n1xi Notebook Evangelist

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    Pretty big.

    16 stream processors vs 32 stream processors

    That alone is a big difference.
     
  4. minxshin

    minxshin Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    It's a big difference, the higher you go up in the chain the closer it becomes. The chain, starting from 8400m GS goes like this. 8400M gs, 8400M GT, 8600M GS, 8600M GT.
     
  5. iph03n1xi

    iph03n1xi Notebook Evangelist

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    Actually, there's an 8400M G, which is before the 8400M GS.

    The 8400M G has only 8 stream processors.
     
  6. hiddensanctum

    hiddensanctum Notebook Evangelist

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    If the NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS was back up with a Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo T7100 (1.8GHz/2MB L2Cache) but the NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT was back up with a Intel® Core™2 Duo processor T5250 which one should I get?
     
  7. iph03n1xi

    iph03n1xi Notebook Evangelist

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    Depends on the RAM of the two systems and what you plan to do with your laptop.


    Could you post specs of the two systems you are looking at?
     
  8. hiddensanctum

    hiddensanctum Notebook Evangelist

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    HP Pavilion dv6500t:
    Operating System: Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium (32-bit)
    Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo T7100 (1.8GHz/2MB L2Cache)
    Memory: 2GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    Graphics Card: 383MB NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS
    Networking: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
    Hard Drive: 160GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
    Primary CD/DVD Drive: FREE Upgrade - LightScribe DVD+/-RW w/Double Layer
    TV & Entertainment Experience: No TV Tuner w/remote control
    Primary Battery: 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
    Productivity Software: Microsoft(R) Works 8.0
    Price: $1078.00

    Acer Aspire 5920:
    Operating System: Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium (32-bit)
    Processor: Intel® Core™2 Duo processor T5250
    Memory: 2GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics with up to 1GB TurboCache memory (256MB dedicated memory, up to 768MB shared system memory); Dolby surround sound; HDMI out
    Networking: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
    Hard Drive: 160GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
    Primary CD/DVD Drive: High-definition DVD±RW/CD-RW drive with read support for next-generation HD DVD formats; double-layer support to record up to 8.5GB of data or 4 hours of video using compatible DVD+R DL and DVD-R DL media; also supports DVD-RAM
    Price: $1099.99

    Budget: <$1100.00
     
  9. iph03n1xi

    iph03n1xi Notebook Evangelist

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    I personally would go with the dv6500t, because the processor is faster and it's a Santa Rosa chipset, so it should have better battery life.


    However, extreme gamers would probably go for the 5920 just for the 8600M GT.
     
  10. minxshin

    minxshin Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    If you are mainly using it for gaming then I'd go with the 8600M GT. If you don't care about gaming or do VERY little gaming, I'd go with the 8400m gs. But even with moderate gaming, you should notice a huge difference. You can't get the Dell 1520 configured under your budget?
     
  11. hiddensanctum

    hiddensanctum Notebook Evangelist

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    With that spec no not really
    I'm wondering how much would the difference be between the processor speeds?
    They r both faster then an AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-50 1.6 right?
     
  12. iph03n1xi

    iph03n1xi Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't know really. The T5250 only goes at 1.5 GHz...while the TL-50 goes at 1.6.


    However, it's an Intel product vs. an AMD product. I think real-world testing would be a better way to see which is faster.




    The T7100 is definitely faster than the TL-50 though.
     
  13. minxshin

    minxshin Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    The GPU is the bottleneck in most of the games, with an exception of supreme commander, and yes, the intel core duo's outperform the turions. You can check tomshardware for the exact differences. But if you look around the reviews, you can check super pi results for both processors and make a rough guesstimate.
     
  14. hiddensanctum

    hiddensanctum Notebook Evangelist

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    Hmm...besides Gaming what else would need a good graphics card?
     
  15. iph03n1xi

    iph03n1xi Notebook Evangelist

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    Watching video? Photo / video editing? I dunno.
     
  16. hiddensanctum

    hiddensanctum Notebook Evangelist

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    If I was gonna use the computer for integrated 3D modeling, animation, effects and rendering,and Architectural stuff would laptop would be more suitable? (yea I know I'm asking a lot of questions, sorry ^^ ;)
     
  17. lunateck

    lunateck Bananaed

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    You need 4 things, A fast CPU for compiling stuff, gpu for 3d rendering, 7200k rpm hdd for fast access, and 3gb of ram on windows machine. You can go 4gb if you use linux.
     
  18. hiddensanctum

    hiddensanctum Notebook Evangelist

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    My question is would getting the 8600M GT be too much for what I want to do?
     
  19. minxshin

    minxshin Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    What kind of games are you exactly looking to play? Now and in the future?
     
  20. hiddensanctum

    hiddensanctum Notebook Evangelist

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    Well currently the one I'm most looking forward to is SCII maybe the upcoming NFS, Civilizations, SimCity Societies, Tarr Chronicles and maybe some MMOs.

    I'd also be using Maya, Flash, Photoshop type stuff for visual editing and animation
     
  21. minxshin

    minxshin Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    In regards to the 2d/3d rendering, the 8400 should be fine. In regards to the games, with the 8600m gt you'll be able to have the settings and the resolution much higher than the 8400m GS. I think the 8400 should be able to run those games, but you would probably have to sacrfice quality. oh btw... where can you get that aspire priced so low?
     
  22. hiddensanctum

    hiddensanctum Notebook Evangelist

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    Ok one final question...do you think I should sacrafice GPU or CPU? As in which one do you think I should pick? In your honest opinion
     
  23. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    ok it just depends. you can make your own decision.

    the faster cpu will speed up tasks outside of games. the faster gpu will speed up gaming and any 3d modeling. in my opinion you probably wont notice the cpu speed difference in normal tasks, you probably will notice the gpu in games.
     
  24. minxshin

    minxshin Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    Well it's my opinion, and I'm more of a gamer/hi-def enthusiast, so I would sacrifice the CPU for the better GPU. A photoshopper, media editor would sacrifice the GPU for the CPU. There's a lot of buzz coming from the launch of the santa rosa platform and the 8x00m nvidia series. This is how I put it, I can always wait a little bit longer for my movie/picture render to finish, but I can never speed up the FPS in a game or turn on more of the eye candy. =).
     
  25. hiddensanctum

    hiddensanctum Notebook Evangelist

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    Thx I think I've made my choice...but I still have one curiousity...whats all this buzz about the Santa Rose Platform? Even after reading the link to the information site I still don't get how is it different from the past Core 2 Duos
     
  26. minxshin

    minxshin Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    800 front side bus as opposed to 667. That's it. I guess also full support for intel turbo memory, and 8x00m cards, and intel wireless N.
     
  27. shotokan213

    shotokan213 Notebook Enthusiast

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    nooo, the 1520 gets extremely expensize fast. it comes standard with a 1.5ghz Core 2 Duo Santa Rosa. So after a 120gb HDD 8600 GS and 2.0ghz Core 2 Duo, its 1274 dollars
     
  28. davron

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    With 7200 RPM HDD and a good video card and some other stuff, it's over $1500, plus a 100+ tax,

    which makes me want to get the HP.
     
  29. Methodis

    Methodis Notebook Evangelist

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    Hate to bump a "old" thread, but could a 8400m play STALKER decently? I'm not a big PC gamer at all, I mostly stick to tycoon games, but I wanted to play STALKER, and my other option is a GeForce7500LE on my Desktop, which struglles running HL2 :p.
     
  30. illmatic2609

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    It's like this in ordered of better performance:

    8400M GS
    8400M GT
    8600M GS
    8600M GT

    I don't know about the 8400 series, but the 8600M GS corresponds to the GeForce 7600 and the 8600M GT corresponds to the 7900GS. However....that is just theoretical. As of now, they perform worse than their DX9 counterparts .

    If you are an avid gamer like me, I'd say go with the 8600M GT. It will allow you play games on medium settings longer than any of the 8400M cards.
     
  31. Paznos

    Paznos Notebook Consultant

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    but running a 8600m GT with a 17"(1920x1200) wouldn't be enough would it having buyer's remorse and it hasn't even shipped yet.
     
  32. Jokkon

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    i wonder if these cards would be powerfull enough to run sc2 in the future
     
  33. davron

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    It will. In fact, I've played it recently and its graphics do not really require much, medium settings is more than enough to enjoy it for which, I believe, 8400M GS is fine
     
  34. Methodis

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    Alright, thanks alot davron, I was sweating it ! :(

    Oh, and the 8400m is better then the 7500LE right?
     
  35. illmatic2609

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    I don't think they are...better...probably around the same performance.
     
  36. septentrio

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    Hi

    In the future, I would like to play games like Halo 3 or GTA 4 on my laptop... Is that possible with the 8400m gs?
     
  37. davron

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    Well, I believe it will RUN both, but not sure about the performance.

    I also think that GTA 4 will not require much, by looking at the trailer. But again, I don't know - check the system requirements.
     
  38. Masrekah

    Masrekah Newbie

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    I have been busting my brain trying to figure out what video card to purchase.... this thread has helped tremendously... I thank you guys. Now I have a system built and was wondering if you guys can help me in determining its capability. I was thinking of runnng games like civilization or Battle for middle earth at their highest setting and was wondering if this laptop package is enough:

    Dell Inspiron 1720
    Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7500 (2.2GHz/800Mhz FSB/4MB cache)
    3GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at 667MHz
    High Resolution, glossy widescreen 17.0 inch display (1920 x 1200)
    256MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8600M GT
    Size: 250GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)

    Total: $2,142

    In addition...is there a big difference is purchasing an "XPS" model..for gaming in particular... I pretty much have the same thing with an XPS but the XPS is higher in price..
     
  39. spookoman

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    well... the 8400gs is a little choppy with halo 2 , so i doubt it could run halo 3 well.
     
  40. nizzy1115

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    halo 3 wont be out for so long...
     
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    hey..im looking at buying a sony vaio SZ series. this one comes with the 8400M GS GPU with purevideo, with a core 2 duo processor T7100(1.8GHz) n a gig of ram, probably upgrading to 2gigs. im not a serious gamer, but i occasionally do, and i'd like decent graphics to play with. does the system sound alright? btw, how do i know if this system uses this santa rosa chipset? i havent noticed anything on the specs, does this mean it doesnt use santa rosa? thanks for ur help
     
  42. Chester1993T

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    Unless it says in the specs that it uses Intel Centrino Duo Processor Technology, it doesn't use Santa Rosa. Sounds like a pretty decent system, preformance depends on what you want to run on it.
     
  43. Charles P. Jefferies

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    This is a rather old thread, closing . . .