NVIDIA GeForce GT750M GDDR5 2GB and 1080p gaming

This is the gpu included with a lot of popular laptops such as the rMBP 15, Dell XPS 15, and Lenovo y510p. I'm thinking of getting new XPS 15 with it. What are people's experiences with 1080p gaming on this? It seems like very much a middle of the road card so I don't expect anything more than 1080p gaming but with the newer crop of games, even the 750m could struggle in the next year.

 

sure it will, it already does in 900p
the GT750M is a bad card for it's price, you can add 400$ to your budget and get a GTX 760/5 M which is WAY faster than it with twice more CC and a good capability of OC

 

The 750M will not be usable at 1080p. It simply isn't strong enough.

 

GT750M is a good card for 720P. It might do 900p, but that's a stretch. However it is not a viable solution at 1080p (unless you have it in SLI of course).

Source: Owner and 720p gamer.

 

plus stay away from dell and their stupid ULV CPU's (they put them because they simply can't deal with the heat !)

 

Thanks for the heads up but disappointing. Have you tried 900p with medium settings on different games? I usually try to go with the highest resolution and cut back on shadows and other GPU intensive stuff.

It's disappointing that laptop makers aren't offerring more than the 750m in the XPS 15, MBP 15, and y510p/y410p but there's probably not enough thermal headroom for the thinner laptops.

 

You're right about that, with the heavier hitting gpu's, you need space to move air around. The 680m/780m crank out some heat. Is there a reason you want one of those particular computers? Is it the size/weight?

It's going to take at least the 675mx to get into 1080p territory.

 

I'm interested in the XPS 15 for a mixture of being less than 5 lbs, the 3200x1800 IGZO screen and the long battery life. Won't order one until reviews come in both in here and around the web, but it looks like it won't really much for gaming.

I have a desktop but it's been nice having a laptop that you can hook into the TV, either yours or your friend's or wherever, via hdmi and just plug in an Xbox controller and have it act as a portable console.

 

There are some less demanding titles from 2013 that you can play in 1080p, but in 720p you should be able to play any game at pretty good settings (not maxed out).

 

I would not go anything below GTX770m for 1080p.

GT750m SLI is a different story though.

 

^^^
My 770m can run every game out on ultra @ 30fps(minimum) with 2x msaa.

Metro last light is arguably the most gpu taxing game out right now, my little 770 can benchmark and record at 25-40fps on ultra. Will run 35 all day long without recording during actual gameplay. I have a video of Sleeping dogs, but the record quality is crap b/c I'm just learning how to work afterburner.

 

Crysis 3 would be an exception (I played it on my 770M).

 

I bought a new PC and installed the NVIDIA GT 635M card. I do not know very much about computers, but I play Dota game and AOE, and likes to watch. whether it's okay to use?

 

The 750M should be able to handle 900p fine, as the 650M did. But 1080p? Not so much.

 

I usually play on High, but if i go down to medium i might be able to play comfortably at 900p.

For 750M SLI, in case anyone is asking, if the game supports SLI, it will generally beat the 770M (allowing you to game at 1080p), but if the game does not support SLI you only get the performance of one card.

720p looks stretched on a 15 inch display but on a 14 display it's fine. 900p is the resolution you should game at on a 1080p monitor, simply because the FPS gained is worth the slight loss of pixels.

 

It certainly makes the Verge's review of the rMBP 15 2013 (with a 750m) seem pretty hollow.

Seriously, 20nm GPU's can't come soon enough. In some ways laptops need 20nm more than desktops which don't care as much about thermals.

 

GT 750m probably best with 14" 1366x768 resolution. Great performance at that resolution while maintaining pixels density over 15.6" 1366x768 resolution for majority of graphic intensive games.

If people ask for laptop suggestion for mainly gaming latest game with gt 750m in mind, somehow it can mislead to offer them "get 1080 display" suggestion. Until they find it is unplayable to play at high setting, let alone ultra.

And if one want to keep up with next gen console power.. i think the only option is gt 770m at minimum ? Since these consoles are designed with AMD 7790-7870 in mind.

 

This is not true. Apart from Witcher 2, every game I've ever tried runs just fine at 1080p with my three-year old 5830m (which is limited to GDDR3), and the 750m is significantly faster.

I'd agree that if OP is planning to buy a new laptop, a model with 760m or 765m would be a better choice if budget permits as it would be able to run upcoming titles for the next few years, but a 750m is still powerful enough to run current games at 1080p.

Completely disagree with this suggestion. Once you become accustomed to 1920x1080, dropping down to 768p is no longer an acceptable option, as it looks terrible, and a 750m can handle current games out on the market at 1080p.

If you want to improve frame rate, dial down the MSAA or turn it off and use FXAA instead. It's still going to look much better than 1366x768 with 8xMSAA or 16xMSAA. At 1080p on a 15" laptop display, there is not a huge discernible difference between FXAA, 4xMSAA or 8xMSAA, and most other graphics settings don't affect frame rate as much as MSAA.

 

Define "1080p gaming". My definition is 30+fps regardless setting(everything off if needed). I bet everyone's answer is different.

750m should do 1080p low/med fine.

Imo, it depends on the game/engine to determine if you should drop resolution or graphic option.

 

This. I have a GTX 660m and while I didn't try Crysis or Metro, there has not been a single game I didn't play at 1080p on my laptop.

I guess it depends on people's definition of '1080p gaming'. On the GT 750m that certainly won't mean maxing games out, but mostly medium (sometimes low or possibly high) settings will be fine, at least until next gen games start coming out.

 

How thin do you want your laptop to be, OP? For rMBP/XPS level thickness but with a significantly better GPU, Razer Blade 14 is the only thing that comes to my mind, but its screen isn't any where near nice when put against the other two.

If Y510p is acceptable, however, there are many options.

 

No it wont, the 770M will be clearly better, better consistent frame times, better input latency.

We are FINALLY moving away from FPS being the be all and end all number. Hopefully now reviewers will start to move towards frame time consistency and level.

Also as console games continue to be developed for the new platforms I expect 3GB of graphics ram to come in very handy.

 

meaker. since the ps4 has 8gb. shouldnt gpus need 8gb to have the same textures. also with such high amounts of texture space do you think the new consoles will be able to play games that look better than crysis 3 maxed.

 

PS4's dGPU doesn't have that much VRAM.

 

The PS4 has a combined total of 8GB but that is shared between things like live capture, OS etc so it's more like 3-4GB of VRAM.

 

That's for the iGPU, which according to rumors will enjoy something similar to HSA. The memory is GDDR5, but it's used as system memory, similar to the DDR3 sticks we have in PCs.

The dGPU has a fixed set VRAM. 2GB is very likely.

 

If you're referring to the PS4, that's not what I understand. It's 8GB total RAM. The CPU doesn't have an iGPU like the mobile and desktop variants. It's just the 8-core CPU with a separate dedicated GPU all sharing the same 8GB GDDR5.

 

1. Your 5830M is made of magic and sparkles, if it can play current day games at 1080p.

2. There are plenty of jaggies to be seen, on a 15" 1080p display. FXAA just blurs things, and is not even in the ballpark of 4xMSAA.

 

Perhaps it is magic , as so far I haven't found 2013 titles to be much more demanding than games released a few years ago.

Bioshock Infinite ran just fine at 1080p for me with no problems, same as Unreal Engine 3 games from previous years like Arkham City, Dishonored and Mass Effect 3. Other recent games including Dead Space 3, Far Cry 3, Blood Dragon, XCOM: Enemy Unknown, Path of Exile, Sleeping Dogs, Sniper Elite V2, CS:GO, RAGE, Skyrim, all these also run great at 1080p. The only game I found that runs like crap is Witcher 2.

The flagship GPUs in a desktop replacement machine seem to be overkill unless you really like MSAA, or if you want to run games at higher than 1080p resolution.

 

I am curious about your definition of run great or fine ? Example : I am curious with your Far Cry 3 setting and fps output at 1080 res with HD 5830 ? Constant 30 fps, low-medium, and no AA at 1080 as long as it can play ?

 

It has been some time since I last had FC3 installed, was running with Catalyst 12.8 and then updated to 12.11 Beta 11. Never tried this game at any resolution below 1920x1080. Edited the config file to remove this ugly HUD: http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/903233346061718987/83FDD6B172011D529AC9BBBC48CF49608FE671BA/

Here are some screens after disabling the the HUD:

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/903233346064694918/D68F56DA8254848FC41E9EDA9C96F83966B2F347/

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/903233346064685375/51147AE53F23BBF61200E55D4CF4629A26BAB1D7/

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/903233346064707701/AE92F2E57DFF5A1B73E9682CDDD0D0309FAB78BB/

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/903233346064690196/005D0A9CF10C025D0093931E03C5E381EBE66611/

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/903233346064710606/DD2593A2695B8320708F3A678DF88D6D0B0EE5C6/



IIRC the settings were DX11 and mostly high settings except no MSAA, no Foilage AA and I think Post Processing was set to low. Used HDAO instead of SSAO. The cutscenes were laggy but other than that the game was very smooth and no problems at all. Foilage AA and MSAA were the main settings that seemed to affect frame rate.

Also played part of Blood Dragon which ran smoothly as well, I suppose the settings were the same, but I don't recall the exact settings used.

 

*duplicate post

 

Some people think 30 FPS is smooth since they never experienced the glory of 60 FPS. Some people think 60 FPS is perfect until they try out 120 FPS (on a true 120 Hz display).

Many Xbox 360 games and PS3 games run at 30 FPS and many people play them just fine (of course they aren't that smooth).

 

Sure.. whatever the settings that suit each, all of us do enjoy notebook gaming. That's the important thing. :thumbsup:

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Thanks.. that image certainly looked great. I have tried FXAA on Batman origins.. the performance is remarkable compared to 2x MSAA let alone 4X. I rarely choose FXAA since last time i used it, I had bad experience with blurred texture.. In Batman, that's another story.

So I have this batman graphic setting that i am comfortable with, getting around constant 60 fps with fxaa low at 768. If i increased to FHD resolution, i think i'll have 30-40% performance cut ~ 36-42 fps in game. This is with gt 650m 2GB.

 

Try it and see how you like it. I suspect after you become accustomed to FHD it will be hard to drop back down to 1366x768 (about half the pixels per frame compared to 1920x1080).

 

GT750M is a good card for 720P. It might do 900, but that's a stretch The 750M will not be usable at 1080p