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Says GT 630M? That's a Fermi... But no specifications were leaked yet, I wonder how did they come to a conclusion "it might be a rebrand"?

 

Said GT 540M who was a Fermi... and GT 630M

 

Well, most people who buys those laptops(not all) dont have a clue. They think higher number is faster, and pay more for that . So those companies make use of that.

 

Seems to me it is another re-brand, per say. It may be more efficient, but I doubt we're looking at a 50% increase in performance (as the rumors stated) if that's what everyone thinks - I'd say about 10%. I had assumed something like this would happen. Intel had announced a few years back that they were planning on releasing a mobile hexacore CPU by 2015, or so I read. I'm assuming around this time we will see some amazing improvements in the computer world.

 

Rebrands are always part of the cycle. Especially the low up to mid end.

 

Hopefully that means the GT 740M and up will be brand new cards.

 

GTX 780 anyone? /:

 

yeah so long as we can get a brand new GTX 780M then I'm happy.

 

heard speculations that 760m will be rebrand of 670mx or something, maybe 770m will be 675mx rebrand and 780m will be 680m and 680mx will be a 785m? pure speculation of course

 

770M will be a 680MX/680M
760M will be a 680M/675MX

(?)

 

then 750m would be a 670mx? and 730m is only a 640m, kind a big gap left between 730 and 750 to be filled by only a 740m. also i doubt nvidia would go out of its way to create the 675mx and 670mx so late in the year unless they know they can rebranded it early 2013.

also 680mx has 1536 cores and 680m has 1344, so its most likely will be two different rebrands

 

It would be more likely that the 680m gets rebranded as a 775m. 780m will probably be new (but not a major improvement over the 680m.)

 

I`m positive that our next GTX 780M will be the 1536 cores unleashed.

And I think that maybe the GTX 770M = 680M in terms of performance (very close atleast) but with less TDP (due to architectural improvements). I`d say 770M is gonna be +5W from GTX 675MX.

 

+5W? would that fry the PCI sockets in models such as p150 and 170?

 

also nvidia might shed a bit more light on the 700 series at CES 2013 hopefully:

*GeForce GTX Graphics processors: Our new Kepler architecture delivers more computing punch on a smaller power budget. We’ll show you how our latest line of graphics processors use Kepler – paired with the latest games – to deliver a great gaming experience."

 

I don`t know what the TDP of 675MX is, but its probably around 20W less than 680M. So since P150/170EM use 680M, you will be perfectly fine with the 770M

I sincerely hope so. Atleast give us a sneak peek on whats coming

 

also hoping that the 700 series is MXM 3.0b so i can upgrade. or should i hold out for the 800 series with maxwell? would that mxm standard be differnet by then because of new architecture?

 

So NVIDIA... there's no GTX 660MX?

 

780m : 680mx
770m : 680m
760m : 675mx
They'll get some arch improvements to make their consumption as low as nvidia can get it. Clocks will probably stay the same.
760m might get a slight boost from the 675mx's 600mhz
Next years sli notebooks can have 690 performance with some overclockig. (for a stellar price of course )

 

730m: 640m
740m: 650m
745m: 560m
750m: 660m
760m: 670mx with lower clocks
770m: 675mx/670mx OC
775m: 680m
780m: 680mx

Same as the previous generation.
670mx overclocks like a beast but it can also be pretty cool with a small downclock or throttling.
I wonder if they can stick a downclocked 670mx into a 14"... (other than that fat asus g46vw)

All speculations of course

 

Not a bad list

Asus, oh don`t get me started on Asus. Worst company ever, totally out of touch with gamers (or with technology).
Nvidia released GTX 670MX and GTX 675MX earlier this year. Asus thought it would be good to finally seize this opportunity to ditch the hot Fermi card they had in the G75 earlier, the GTX 670M. Excellent.
So what is the difference between those two GPUs?
670MX have a 192bit bus. 675MX have a 256bit bus. Same amount of cores, same clocks on them. What does that translates in terms of performance? 675MX gets in average 35% more FPS in games ( http://tinyurl.com/cthkl9). The 670MX is seriously choked by the memory bandwidth.
Asus picked what? GTX 670MX

Sometimes I wonder what the hell is wrong with Asus. Its like they give a complete F in their fanbase.

 

thats exactly what i thought of asus, doesnt make any sense why they put a 670mx in, the only explanation is that they want their users to upgrade as often as possible. the chasis can take probably a 680m easily, but if they do that they will probably see their sales go down in the future years

 

Yes thats the only explanation I can come up with. The 675MX output just about the same heat as 670MX. It use the same power. There is no excuse.

Asus make their own MXM modules with this weird shape, hence making it impossible for customers to upgrade their GPUs. They want to stop the customers so that they are forced to buy new notebooks from them.
Asus have become a greedy company totally out of touch with the industry. Only looking to suck out money from customers who don`t know better.

 

i was hoping to get a G55vw as well, but i just couldnt justify the price and performance, while other companies are providing more performance and significantly less price. also the maintenance is quite difficulty i believe

 

The problem is that their cards are different from the default ones used by alienware/clevo so upgradeability is in most cases forfeit.

 

Seems about right, haha. That's a good guess.

 

The real problem is that the fans are too stupid to realize they getting f-ed over constantly.

 

Yeah its a bit sad. I like the G-series, its just that they never fulfill their "Republic Of Gamers" slogan they keep throwing around. Oh well, it goes nice along with the scam they got going on.

 

I think you're jumping the gun on asus.
They never offer the BEST card on the market but they do offer a very solid build which can play games rather well for that generation.
Their builds never get that hot and their prices are not alienware-high.

Besides, I own 150em with a 670mx and it overclocks like a beast. Price/performance wise it's magnificent.
You up the memory clock by 800 easily and it gives you well over 4k on 3dmark11 which is darn good for the next couple years. (almost double that 660m)
And it never gets hotter than 55-60c. (at least for now, we'll see in the summer when room temperature hits 30c)

I think they made a good choice. It would probably be nicer performance-wise to use a 675mx but those are running pretty hot and expensive. (+150$ I think)

 

No they made the dumbest move ever, but the smartest one marketing wise.

Like I said, 670MX is severely memory bandwidth choked. Which is the whole reason why you get so much better score in 3DMark. But thats only part of the story. You could run half that memory speed with the 675MX and get the same score as your 670MX OCed. Which in turn give you a much cooler GPU...

And many Asus fans don`t know or want to overclock. So they are left with a sneaky attempt at getting the customers to buy a complete new notebook from Asus later.
While I do agree that they never have offered the best hardware, 675MX is far from best. Its a lot slower than 680M. And the 670MX is on par with the 670M in average. Its a complete rip off.

675MX and 670MX is equally hot. They draw the same power. And it cost $75 more. I mean, come on

Whatever, enough rant from me. Love my MSI

 

Correct me if I'm wrong.
670mx is considered a 75w TDP card while 675mx is a full fledged 100w.
Only 670mx is offered on the lower spec 151em1 clevo model which comes with a 130w PSU for exactly that reason.
In addition 675mx is based on GK104 (same as 660ti) unlike the 670mx which is based on GK106 (same as 660).

Eventually they aren't that different and this is just nit picking

 

Yep you are wrong.

GTX 680M with 1344 cores @ 719MHz = 100W. (Well I`m pretty sure its a lot lower than that but its an entirely different discussion )
GTX 675MX with 960 cores @ 719MHz = 100W?

GTX 670MX
960 cores @ 719MHz. 192bit @ 700MHz

GTX 675MX
960 cores @ 719MHz. 256bit @ 900MHz

That 200MHz for the memory is the only thing thats separating them. The rest of the GK104 cores on the 675MX are obviously disabled hence it doesn`t matter if its GK104 or GK106 unless I missed something?

 

The 675mx would indeed run hotter because it's not getting choked by the memory thus the core can be used to it's full potential. In this case hotter is better.
Not like the 675mx would run that much hotter though. If the g75 is a gaming laptop than why does it only have a mid high gpu? Answer. It's not a gaming laptop. It's already out dated.
It's just barely faster than the 670m. In fact it even has a lower mem bandwidth than the card it replaces. 670m: 72gb/s 670mx:67.2gb/s. It's a bad joke.

 

Suspicions confirmed

AnandTech - NVIDIA

 

Knew it...

 

710m is 28nm, but fermi?? what??

 

That must be a typo and they meant to say it was 40nm.

 

There is a 28nm GF117 Fermi

 

oh, why are they still doing fermi? hasnt it been in 400,500 and 600 series? hasnt nvidia rebranded it enough yet?

 

I stand corrected, then.

 

Thanks for the link. The low end Nvidia GPUs have always been rebadge though so not much of a surprise there. We will see about the rest

 

Nvidia die shrinked it. What's so surprising? Cheaper to manufacture.

 

For refrence, for anyone that missed the GPU infos this last year.
The 660M was the first kepler card released last year, everything above it was all still Fermi as in 670M, 675M, then 680M finally released late to the AMD 7970 party at double the cost as Kepler 28nm. Recently there has been a new set of updated 6xx series nvidia gpus in the 670/75MX using the new kepler architecture. Story can be read here if anyone feels so inclined, http://www.anandtech.com/show/6346/nvidia-quietly-releases-geforce-gtx-670mx-and-gtx-675mx-for-notebooks.

So now that were up to date on that I have absolutely no idea how rebadging works cause who the hell reads this stuff!!!!

 

They (NVIDIA) screwed the pooch on their naming. And the 670MX isn't that impressive.

And it's a fact they have started the rebadging game this year

 

if the GTX 760m would be 768 CC with GDDR5 it will worth it, the GTX 660m is kinda overwhelmed in 1080p as said some of my collegues in the college.

 

AMD's complete 8000 series is a rebadge as well. Top to bottom. Desktop to notebook. Looks like a boring year.

 

The 670mx already out does that. If it's memory would get overclocked to 2000 it could be interesting as a 760m.

 

but the GTX 670MX is in another range of prices and TDP we lack something (with kepler) between the GTX 660M and the GTX 670MX

 

We haven't seen any info on 89xxm or 77xm/780m yet though. We could end up pleasantly surprised. I'm hoping that's the case, as I want to upgrade to Haswell this year.

We don't need a 665 at this point. The 670mx isn't that much more powerful than the 660m.