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    NVIDIA Inspector prioritize temperature keeps resetting

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Xercaium, May 22, 2015.

  1. Xercaium

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    Hello, I've a GTX 960m and when running NVIDIA Inspector the prioritize temperature is set at default 74 C . Every time I change it , ether decreasing or increasing, it keeps resetting back to 74C. I was wondering why my temp stopped at 75C on every benchmark I run. Is the GTX 960m down-throtling itself? I want to increase my max temperature to 79C, but NVIDIA Inspector won't let me. Yet, NVIDIA Inspector let's me overclock the GPU core, memory, and voltage. I didn't touch the voltage since I don't know what to it yet, but I'm really just going to leave it alone.
     
  2. octiceps

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    Throttle temp is probably locked by the vBIOS
     
  3. Xercaium

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    Ah, I was afraid of that. Is it controlled by the nvidia drivers like this "Clock Block" or something, that I've been reading about? I using the lastest 352.86 drivers, but still able to overclock.
     
  4. octiceps

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    No, it is a setting within the vBIOS. You can't change it unless you mod the vBIOS. Every GPU has this setting, it's just that most aren't set as ridiculously low as yours.
     
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    I have backed up my bios and extracted the vbios. I opened the extracted vbios and now I'm searching around to find out how to increase the "throttle temp" and also make it so that I'm able to change it in Nvidia Inspector, if need be. Would also like to increase the +135Mhz core limit. I am currently following this thread: http://www.overclock.net/t/1522651/disable-boost-and-bake-in-max-game-stable-clocks-for-maxwell. I'm unable to ask them for any help, my account keeps telling me to "Verify your email" after I did it 3 times.

    Wondering if the "throttle temp" are the target temp and max temp target, not seeing where it's limited or set to 74C for I can change it.

    Would anyone help or guide me to unlock my vbios throttle temp/temperature limit?

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  6. TomJGX

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    I would PM @Prema and ask if he could do something about this.. And don't forget to donate in the end if he is able to fix this for you :)
     
  7. octiceps

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    Can't see your pics, too small and blurry
     
  8. Xercaium

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    According to that image, your temp target is already at 92C.

    By chance did you try EVGA Precision X to see if it is an Inspector bug?
     
  10. Xercaium

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    That's what's having me confused. MSI Afterburner, Nvidia Inspector, and GPU-Z all say it's running then stopping at and below 75C.

    Edit: Yes, EVGA Precision X says the same.
     
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    No? That Inspector-screenie shows 74C and grayed out.
     
  12. Ethrem

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    The vbios shows 92C for temp target. I don't know what is going on with Inspector showing 74C. That's why I asked about the other programs.
     
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    Oh.. I only saw the Inspector.
     
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    I've tried reinstalling the graphics drivers, both Intel and Nvidia (Optimus system, I need both drviers). Then I used DDU uninstaller to get rid of any leftovers. I can't use the 353.00 drivers without it giving me a BSOD video_dxgkrnl_fatal_error. Had to repeat the reinstall process again and using ASUS 347.81 graphics driver. The 960m still stops at 75C and starts throttling. If what I see in my vbios is correct, then something that ASUS did is causing this. GPU-Z shows me that the Intel IGP is also stopping at 75C temp (just thought to check that), didn't know a IGP has it own temp, an error? Thought CPU and IGP share the same temps.

    I contacted and made a case id with ASUS, I had a ASUS GL551JM before the GL551JW and that laptop don't have this problem (The GL551JW was on sale at a lower price what I paid for the GL551JM, so I returned it and switched).

    Edit: Nvidia control panel 3d settings are set to GTX 960m as preferred graphics and power management set to prefer maximum performance.
     
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  16. Ethrem

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    It sounds to me like ASUS did something shady on their system BIOS or their drivers, especially if the stock nVidia drivers do not work.
     
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  17. Xercaium

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    I contacted ASUS bout this, what else you think I should do? Returning it might be my last option. I read a lot of good things about ASUS ROG series laptops, except their support where I read bad things.
     
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    Personally I would return it and get something else. 75C is way too low.
     
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    It looks to me in his image that it's set to 74c, but the max slider is 93.
    HERE is default (92 throttle point)
    HERE is what his pic looks like (74 throttle point)

    Edit: I posted pretty late. But oh well.
     
  20. Ethrem

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    I guess I'm the only one who noticed the vbios dump lol
     
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    I didn't see it until you had posted it, which is why I had said "oops, I'm late" after my post XD.
     
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    OP try using EVGA Precision X... You can set temp target there and if even there it doesn't work then you should return it... BTW is this the infamous Asus G501/UX501? if it is return it now.. It's CPU+GPU throttles heavily at 70-80C which is too low of a temp... get something else..
     
  23. Xercaium

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    I've tried EVGA Precision X as well, didn't work. It's the Asus GL551JW model. I have setup an RMA to return it back to MicroCenter. I've also gotten a reply from Asus this morning saying this:

    "Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service.
    My name is Lijay and it is my pleasure to help you with your problem.

    The temperature of the GPU always reset back to 74 celsius, this is abnormal. Seems like the sensor is fault.
    Since you just bought it within a month, I suggest you to contact your retailer for a replacement service.

    Welcome to refer Troubleshooting & FAQ for ASUS products in ASUS website:
    http://support.asus.com/servicehome.aspx?SLanguage=en

    If you continue to experience issues in the future, please do not hesitate to contact us.

    An email survey will be sent to you within the next 5 days. Please be sure to rate the service I provided to you today.


    Best Regards,
    Lijay
    ASUS Product Support Team"

    I don't believe that is true, beside me and another who PM me on Tomshardware forum, LaptopMedia.com made a review of the GL551JW model 2 days ago. Though theirs stayed at 72C and didn't throttle. Not looking to go over $1000, but I'm looking at the Lenovo Y50 again and the MSI GE62 APACHE pro 867. I've actually seen a Y50 in a store and play with it a bit, but MSI is new to me. Do the GE62 APACHE pro 867 have black aluminum both in and outside or is it plastic?
     
  24. Xercaium

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    Also, what do " CPU+GPU" mean? Are you talking about both CPU and GPU sharing one fan, right? The only two laptops in my budget are the Lenovo Y50 and the Acer Aspire V15 Nitro and the have two fans. I've gotten use to aluminum design style laptops, and easy prefer those. The Acer seems mostly plastic designed over the Y50. Do anyone know if the Lenovo Y50 still have the hinge breaking problem?
     
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    The Y50 has dual fans, metal build... Also I don't know what this hinge breaking problem is since I've never heard about it on NBR... Personally, it's designed quite well and you will be fine..Go for the lenovo y50 with 1080p IPS screen...
     
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    The Y50 is not designed well. Ask @octiceps about that, he can tell you more than I could.
     
  27. octiceps

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    Bruh you forgot a zero. I have a Y500 not Y50. That being said Lenovo hasn't made anything interesting in 2.5 years.
     
  28. Xercaium

    Xercaium Notebook Guru

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    What laptop should I get, if not the Y50 and has the GTX 960m? I only have $1000, and kind a hard to find something unless it's on sale.
     
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    I know you don't have a Y50. But you were the one saying how it blocked its own vents by design and such.
     
  30. octiceps

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    Depends where you are, but probably a Clevo
     
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    Clevo, never heard the brand? I live in US, Florida.

    Edit: Pushing my luck with double posting...
     
  33. octiceps

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    This or this.

    Additional 10% discount if you're a student or have a coupon code (the Shark 4 promo just ended but Eurocom discounts a different model every few weeks).

    Cleve is a laptop ODM whose machines are sold under a number of brands. You may have heard of Sager.
     
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    Or you may have heard of:
    OriginPC
    iBuyPower
    CyberPowerPC
    AvaDirect
    Falcon Northwest
    Eurocom
    Mythlogic
    Pro-Star computers
    Power Notebooks
     
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    Xercaium Notebook Guru

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    iBuyPower
    iBuyPower & CyberPowerPC I heard of.

    My dad heard of Sager before when I asked. The Sager NP7155 (Clevo N155SD) and looks like it has two fans (I think). Seems pretty good from the specs, sad that it's back ordered. How is the cooling system provided by Sager?
     
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    Clevo generally has top notch cooling. I'd say this time around they have the best cooling in most of their systems' size/weight brackets.
     
  37. octiceps

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    Why don't you get it from Eurocom? With 10% discount the Shark 4 is cheaper than other places plus it comes with IPS screen standard which the others do not.
     
  38. Xercaium

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    From xoticpc.com I can get it for $978.73 with 16gb Ram. I'm not sure about the screen, but I do have a auo b156han01.2 screen that I got for the GL551JW thinking it had an high color gamut IPS screen, but it was TN.

    I didn't see a 10% discount for the Shark 4, I'll check again. The Shark 4 and NP7155 looks similar, is the Shark 4 a custom NP7155, or my eyes playing tricks on me? Also wondering if they're aluminum.
     
  39. octiceps

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    The -10% is their student discount. You enter it in the comment box when you order the laptop.

    The Shark 4 is the Clevo N150SD and the NP7155 is the N155SD. They're identical except a few minor cosmetic differences.
     
  40. Xercaium

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    Thank you everyone for your help! I really appreciate it. :)

    If I should need anymore help, I'll ask in the Sager and Clevo forum, since this thread isn't needed no more.
     
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    Just updating this thread to let others who has the Asus GL551JW know that Asus is fixing the with a BIOS update, increasing the max temperature to 82C. They sent me a beta BIOS, but I don't have the laptop no more.
     
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    Good to know. 82C seems still abit low, but better then 74C. Wonder why they don't do at least 87C .
     
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    hmm....i am running prema's modded vbios for the 980m and every time i boot the prioritize temp checkbox becomes unchecked :(
     
  44. Ethrem

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    Use evga precision to set it,then set it at boot. For some reason evgas precision works where others fail.
     
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    for me whenever i restart the app it goes back to 0 in precision x with the premamod, apparently it has to do with how they altered the vbios.
     
  46. Ethrem

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    Odd... It works just fine for me. I'm using AB currently but I set the temp limit to 87C and it works perfectly.
     
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    it happens when you restart the app.
     
  48. Ethrem

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    I have it set to apply on boot. Works perfectly.
     
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    like if you restart the app while the pc is running is where it becomes an issue. it will default to 0 for some reason...possibly because of the power slider being disabled.
     
  50. Ethrem

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    Well I don't have any issues, I just checked. Closing AB and reopening AB made no difference.
     
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