The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
 Next page →

    NVIDIA enables PhysX and CUDA support for GeForce 8 and better GFX cards

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by timtravel42, Aug 12, 2008.

  1. timtravel42

    timtravel42 Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    827
    Messages:
    2,004
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    timtravel42, Aug 12, 2008
    #1
  2. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    2,045
    Messages:
    4,461
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    106
    thanks, weill check it out.
     
    narsnail, Aug 12, 2008
    #2
  3. The Forerunner

    The Forerunner Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    1,105
    Messages:
    3,061
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Downloading the driver now. I'll have a modded inf if anyone needs one. Thanks for the heads up.
     
    The Forerunner, Aug 12, 2008
    #3
  4. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    2,200
    Messages:
    5,426
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    finally.............
     
    Nirvana, Aug 12, 2008
    #4
  5. brainer

    brainer Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    334
    Messages:
    2,478
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Well looks like you need a 2nd GPU to make it dedicated for Physx for best results and to make the Physx experience as smooth as possible.
     
    brainer, Aug 12, 2008
    #5
  6. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    2,045
    Messages:
    4,461
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    106
    hey could I have the INF Forerunner?

    EDIT: nvm, it just installed without the INF?
     
    narsnail, Aug 12, 2008
    #6
  7. bossier330

    bossier330 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    15
    Messages:
    292
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I have the 8600M GT in my Inspiron 1520. It says the driver is only for desktop, but will it work with my mobile card? And Forerunner, do you have a modded inf (or do I need one)?
     
    bossier330, Aug 12, 2008
    #7
  8. The Forerunner

    The Forerunner Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    1,105
    Messages:
    3,061
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Yeah I'll get one up.

    Nars it shouldn't have installed without the inf. Maybe it said the system wasn't modified and you didn't notice.
     
    The Forerunner, Aug 12, 2008
    #8
  9. bossier330

    bossier330 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    15
    Messages:
    292
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Yeah stupid mistake. I should have known it wouldn't find compatible hardware. Thanks for your help. Can't wait for the inf!
     
    bossier330, Aug 12, 2008
    #9
  10. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    2,045
    Messages:
    4,461
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    106
    nope, it installed, and I restarted...

    EDIT: the driver version is still 177.73, it is 177.83, so I guess it didnt "really" install.
     
    narsnail, Aug 12, 2008
    #10
  11. amoney3

    amoney3 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    27
    Messages:
    195
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    It was said that Physx support is only officially designated to the 8800m cards and the 8 and 9 Desktop series. So, I guess he had a smooth ride. I don't remember the exact article, but I saw it over on LV2G.
     
    amoney3, Aug 12, 2008
    #11
  12. timtravel42

    timtravel42 Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    827
    Messages:
    2,004
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    oh yeah i forgot about the modded inf
     
    timtravel42, Aug 12, 2008
    #12
  13. X2P

    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

    Reputations:
    3,179
    Messages:
    5,361
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    206
    For the under knowledged about graphics cards how does "CUDA" and "PhysX" help gaming performance. How does it affect GPU temp or other temperatures.

    Just thought those questions should be answered for many people who do not even know what "CUDA" and "PhysX"
     
    X2P, Aug 12, 2008
    #13
  14. JCMS

    JCMS Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    455
    Messages:
    4,674
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    I'm pretty sure they started adding the G9x mobile cards in their drivers some months ago...

    Downloading with Warmonger right now.

    @X2P: CUDA is mainly for development (or things such as folding*@home). It's the real name of Nvidia's DX10 achitecture actually, IIRC. PhysX allows you do enable PhysX's hardware physics. I don't think it affects much performances. Well, maybe on a 8400/9300...
     
    JCMS, Aug 12, 2008
    #14
  15. The Forerunner

    The Forerunner Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    1,105
    Messages:
    3,061
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    There you go. This is for vista 32. I think I covered all of the 8 series.

    Just change the extension from .doc to .inf .
     

    Attached Files:

    The Forerunner, Aug 12, 2008
    #15
  16. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    2,045
    Messages:
    4,461
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    106
    It is obv something else to do for the GPU, with PhysX anways, it will utilize the GPU core because thats what PhysX is. It wont help unless it is enalbed within the game, and there are pretty much no games that take advantage of PhysX.

    EDIT: Forerunner, your link doesnt work...
     
    narsnail, Aug 12, 2008
    #16
  17. amoney3

    amoney3 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    27
    Messages:
    195
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    For those who are looking for the modded inf, I used the 177.79 from laptop video 2 go. That one's the latest out and seems to be the pervading one used by the forum goers over there. You guys can get it here or head over the laptopvideo2go 177.79 driver post.
     
    amoney3, Aug 12, 2008
    #17
  18. bossier330

    bossier330 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    15
    Messages:
    292
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    CUDA look simpressive from what's on the site. What cards have that though?
     
    bossier330, Aug 12, 2008
    #18
  19. amoney3

    amoney3 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    27
    Messages:
    195
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Yea, that too. but the 8800m was the minimum mobile card supported.
     
    amoney3, Aug 12, 2008
    #19
  20. JCMS

    JCMS Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    455
    Messages:
    4,674
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    CUDA? 7150M + every DX10 cards from nvidia. I don't know if they enabled it on everyone of them but on paper, they call can do it.
     
    JCMS, Aug 12, 2008
    #20
  21. timtravel42

    timtravel42 Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    827
    Messages:
    2,004
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    works great
    ill link to it in the op
     
    timtravel42, Aug 12, 2008
    #21
  22. brainer

    brainer Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    334
    Messages:
    2,478
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    56
    ehm.. 7150m?
     
    brainer, Aug 12, 2008
    #22
  23. JCMS

    JCMS Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    455
    Messages:
    4,674
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    The 7150 is based on the GF8, and has the USPs. IIRC

    Notice the m rather than go too.
     
    JCMS, Aug 12, 2008
    #23
  24. The Forerunner

    The Forerunner Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    1,105
    Messages:
    3,061
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Nars, does the link work now?
     
    The Forerunner, Aug 12, 2008
    #24
  25. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    2,045
    Messages:
    4,461
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    106
    yes, but im in XP anyways....i just got one off the older drivers.
     
    narsnail, Aug 12, 2008
    #25
  26. Tinderbox (UK)

    Tinderbox (UK) BAKED BEAN KING

    Reputations:
    4,745
    Messages:
    8,513
    Likes Received:
    3,823
    Trophy Points:
    431
    Warmonger is not very good! but it`s free! , you can see some waving in the wind pices of cloth the PhysX.
     
    Tinderbox (UK), Aug 12, 2008
    #26
  27. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

    Reputations:
    3,886
    Messages:
    11,104
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    456
    So SLI users should have it shine, na? :D
    I`m getting it now :p Thanks.
     
    eleron911, Aug 12, 2008
    #27
  28. timtravel42

    timtravel42 Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    827
    Messages:
    2,004
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    yeah i agree
    at least it was free :p
     
    timtravel42, Aug 12, 2008
    #28
  29. wong

    wong Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    will this work for 64?
     
    wong, Aug 12, 2008
    #29
  30. Pai

    Pai Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    464
    Messages:
    657
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I am getting almost all of the demos. It's about 2.5 gb worth of download. I will post benchmarch of the games/Tech Demos running with the old driver and the new driver with PhysX when I get home. I personally want to see if the PhysX really help with performance or not, it could be the opposite, who know. :)
     
    Pai, Aug 12, 2008
    #30
  31. brainer

    brainer Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    334
    Messages:
    2,478
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Yup, its time to get what you paid for :D 1 for physx and 1 for the rest :D
     
    brainer, Aug 12, 2008
    #31
  32. mrbee33

    mrbee33 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    393
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    just installed the new drivers on my m1530 (8600m GT ddr3)

    and in 3dmark06 i got 4661 on stock speeds.

    this is in comparison to the last driver i was using (174.74) where i got 4544 on stock speeds. so a nice increase of over 100 points.

    i have yet to try any games yet though.

    anyone notice any difference in game?
     
    mrbee33, Aug 12, 2008
    #32
  33. mrbee33

    mrbee33 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    393
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    just played cod4 for a few min

    temperature normal at a stable 78 celcius
     
    mrbee33, Aug 12, 2008
    #33
  34. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    2,200
    Messages:
    5,426
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    so if GPU take over the job, then what's CPU gonna do? aren't GPUs bottlenecked enough already?
     
    Nirvana, Aug 12, 2008
    #34
  35. magma_saber

    magma_saber Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    66
    Messages:
    234
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    How am i suppose to change it to inf? :mad: I renamed it to nv_disp.inf but it still is a doc file. Why can't you just upload it in .inf instead of .doc?
     
    magma_saber, Aug 12, 2008
    #35
  36. Citizen86

    Citizen86 Notebook User Guy

    Reputations:
    203
    Messages:
    1,188
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    I downloaded the .inf file from laptopvideo2go, but it didn't install the Nvidia Control Panel on Gateway w/ 8800m GTS.... so I'm going to try your .inf file Forerunner, hope it works better :D
     
    Citizen86, Aug 12, 2008
    #36
  37. Rorschach

    Rorschach Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    1,131
    Messages:
    3,552
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    106
    If the game isn't on this list you will see no improvement....cod4 is not on this list.
    http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_physxgames_home.html
     
    Rorschach, Aug 12, 2008
    #37
  38. Renocide

    Renocide Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    10
    Messages:
    32
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Downloaded the file but it's a .exe.

    How do I extract to a file so I can add the .inf file??

    Nevermind.

    I figured out where it is.
     
    Renocide, Aug 12, 2008
    #38
  39. Pai

    Pai Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    464
    Messages:
    657
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Double click on it, and it will ask you where you to exact it.

    Has anyone see any difference in the game/demo provided by Nvidia in terms of performance? I installed the driver along with PhysX, but I see no change in CPU usage and fps which is always at 100% with a low fps. In regular Control Panel (not Nvidia Control Panel) under PhysX, it says Geforce PhysX is ticked and enabled, but I still do not see any improvement at all. As reference, I was running "The Great Kulu" demo @ 640 x 480 with 8600m GT (ddr2) and a 1.6 Ghz C2D.
     
    Pai, Aug 12, 2008
    #39
  40. Silentheero

    Silentheero Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    43
    Messages:
    221
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Hate to ask, but does anyone have a WinXP 32bit .inf file? I have a c90 with a 8600m and cannot remember/find the code for it.
     
    Silentheero, Aug 12, 2008
    #40
  41. maksin01

    maksin01 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    446
    Messages:
    1,203
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    maksin01, Aug 12, 2008
    #41
  42. bossier330

    bossier330 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    15
    Messages:
    292
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    PhysX + COD4 on Steam + 8600 M GT = AMAZINGGGGG
     
    bossier330, Aug 12, 2008
    #42
  43. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    2,200
    Messages:
    5,426
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    so physX makes difference in COD4?
     
    Nirvana, Aug 12, 2008
    #43
  44. azianai

    azianai Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    17
    Messages:
    493
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Wonder how long till we get support for the 9000m series. I know on my GTX260, it looks great =)
     
    azianai, Aug 13, 2008
    #44
  45. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    2,045
    Messages:
    4,461
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    106
    COD4 doesnt support PhysX, so i dont see how it would possibly do ANYTHING
     
    narsnail, Aug 13, 2008
    #45
  46. azianai

    azianai Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    17
    Messages:
    493
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Its the Placebo effect =)
     
    azianai, Aug 13, 2008
    #46
  47. N00d13s

    N00d13s is too legit to quit!

    Reputations:
    185
    Messages:
    842
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    i tried out warmonger and it looks really good with the physx.
     
    N00d13s, Aug 13, 2008
    #47
  48. kenside34

    kenside34 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    57
    Messages:
    26
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    haha its is what the mind thinks it is..
     
    kenside34, Aug 13, 2008
    #48
  49. jacob808

    jacob808 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    52
    Messages:
    1,002
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Tried this and experimented 2 days now with the 177.79 drivers and the physx 8.7.18 or the newest version. I have a toshiba x205 sli1 so it has dual 8600m gts. The best driver I tried so far is 175.19 which scores 7575 (my last run on 3dmark6 basic) anyway with 177.79 it dropped to 7345 then with the physx enabled 3dmark gave me 7325. I tried playing Call of Duty 4 multiplayer and the performance dropped to 30 frames per second and less with physx enabled with it disabled it was an inconsistent 60 fps. I was disappointed to say the least. So I tried with Bioshock since it's an unreal 3 engine and compared to 175.19 the fps was 30-60 fps with maxed out graphics at 1440x900 which didn't improve at all. I love Call of Duty 4 multiplayer and that's what I mostly play but it was getting very bad performance due to the 177.79 drivers and physx. So I uninstalled and went back to 175.19, which gives me the highest score on 3dmark6 and the best performance for my games. I also tried physx with 175.90 and 176.05 official drivers for Toshiba laptops but physx couldn't be enabled. Also those drivers gave me about the same score as 177.79 (7300+) which is 200 pts less than 175.19. Right now Physx is just hype and I don't see a benefit, infact I see a hit in performance, And this is 2 days of long hours spent testing all these drivers installing, uninstalling running 3dmark and playing games while observing frames per second.
     
    jacob808, Aug 13, 2008
    #49
  50. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    2,045
    Messages:
    4,461
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Theres no benefit unless its CODED FOR THE GAME UT3 and only a few other are, you need to look it up on the net. Otherwise it wont do anything. At all.
     
    narsnail, Aug 13, 2008
    #50
 Next page →