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    NVIDIA's GeForce 9700M / 9800M laptop GPUs get quasi-official

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Alienware, Jul 18, 2008.

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    99.9999% sure the shader and memory settings for the cards are incorrect.
     
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    Will Dell offer them in their laptops?
     
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    Very unlikely, seems dell has gone with Radeon graphics cards this time.
     
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    I suppose it won't hurt till we get an official release on the information. Not sure on Dell's situation but you never know when they could implement nVidia cards again...
     
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    well clevos are already starting to ship and they come standard with the 9800gt, so this is kinda old news.
     
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    9700M GT is MXM II =)
     
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    I would not be sure of that.

    I am sure that the 9600M GT has a 23w TDP, which fits the power specifications of MXM-II.
     
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    Nvidia specifications:
    9700M GT - 32 stream processors, 148 gigaflops
    9700M GTS - 48 stream processors, 180 gigaflops
    9800M GTS - 64 stream processors, 240 gigaflops
    9800M GT - 96 stream processors, 360 gigaflops
    9800M GTX - 112 stream processors, 420 gigaflops
     
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    You can see it in the picture. The 9600M GT is clocked at 600/800 and the 9700M GT at 625/800. In other words, they are the same cards except that the 9700M GT has mandatory GDDR3 while the 9600M GT can come with DDR2
     
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    actually, there might a larger difference if the 9700M GT has a 256-bit memory interface... which would make it a high-end videocard.

    .. while the 9600M GT (though may have similar clock speeds), just as a mid-range 128-bit mem interface.
     
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    9700M GT is a G96, which pretty much confirms the 128bits bus. Even if it had a 256bits bus. the difference between 9600M GT GDDR3 VS 9700M GT would be the same as DDR2 9600M GT VS GDDR3 9600M GT
     
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    its a big difference actually to have a 128-bit mem interface as compared to a 256-bit.

    but if the 9700M has a 128-bit mem interface, than theres no reason that its not MXM-II
    .... however, if its got a 256-bit mem interface, then its definitely NOT going to be MXM-II... TDP will be over the 25w cap
     
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    But the GT is a G96 so it would really surprise me to have a 256bits bus. The GTS is a G94 though.

    But in %, the differene between DDR2 800 and GDDR3 1600 is the same as GDDR3 1600 128bits VS 256bits.
     
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    here are some clarifications:

    Its [9700M] definitely NOT going to be under 25w TDP... which is the cap of MXM Type II.

    Here are the specs of the 9650M GS:
    Manufacturer NVIDIA
    Series GeForce 9000M
    Codename
    Pipelines 32 - unified
    Core Speed 625 MHz
    Memory Speed 800 MHz
    Memory Bus Width 128 Bit
    Memory Type GDDR2?, GDDR3
    Max. Amount of Memory 512 MB
    Shared Memory no
    DirectX DirectX 10, Shader 3.0
    Current Consumption 29 Watt
    Transistors 289 Million
    Features MXM III Slot, 1250 MHz shader clock, OpenGL 2.1 support, dual-link DVI (if supported by the notebook).
    Notebook Size large
    Date of Announcement 13.03.2008
    Information
    Link to Manufacturer Page http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_965...
    As you can see, this card already has a 29w TDP... making it fall in the MXM-III range.

    The 9700M would be near this [TDP and performance] as well.
     
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    The 9650M GS is a rebranded 8700M GT -> 80nm G84

    9700M GT is 65nm :)
     
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    thats true.

    lemme get some clarifications from the "Master of MXM" :)
     
  18. brainer

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    Gophn check your post?

    DirectX DirectX 10, Shader 3.0 ???