NVidia GeForce2 Go graphics with 16MB of DDR SDRAM

I have a friend that has a Dell Inspiron 2650 w/ a NVidia GeForce2 Go graphics with 16MB. It is a shared card, so it will be something with the adding some of the RAM/ making it faster. And he is not going to listen to me saying that it will not play F.E.A.R., but I shall through out the question anyway. Is there anyway to overclock/ boost performance. He has the 1.5ghz P4, 512mb RAM, and 4200prm hard disc. He just want to get more performance out of it, and we have not been about to find anything to make it better. Thanks for this.

 

i doubt fear would run on that, fear requires a pretty good gpu.. and alot more ram.

 

That is what I keep telling him, F.E.A.R. barely runs on my system. But he want it to get better performance out of it on other things like Duke Nukem 3D, Half Life, and CS 1.6.

 

You friend sounds just like my cousin. He will NOT listen to me either. For example, he wanted to play BF2 and I told him he couldn't because he has a Geforce 4 MX 440 and needed a Geforce 5700 or higher. Well, he bought the game and told me that he couldn't get it to work... well errrr duh... So he asked me what gfx card to buy. I told him at least a 6800 or better (he has AGP ). But he told me he has like $30 and wanted a gfx card NOW! Man, he is a pain in the a$$.

As for your friend, TELL him that he is totally wrong. He will not be able to play any game that is at least 8 years old with that card.

I would recommend that he just buys a whole new computer. There is no way that he would get a 'good' performance in CS 1.6, HL, or DN with that crappy card.

Mike.

 

There is absolutely no way he can play F.E.A.R on his computer, due to lack of every thing and capability that F.E.A.R needs to run. He is going to have to live with CS 1.6. However, you COULD teach him a valuble lesson: that he desperately needs to update (or get the xbox 360). Let him install it (or get stopped at the setup screen) and make him cry, he might then consider and upgrade. If you're not too tight, then let him download the demo, it still own't work, just that he won't have to spend money on it.

Long story short. getting that extra drop-and-a-half of performance will not make the card play F.E.A.R, shaders are involved.

 

i don't get why they bother asking for help if they don't even bother listening to your answer

i know EXACTLY how you guys feel.

anyway, it's impossible to run fear on that, even with liquid nitrogen cooling and super OCing, it won't run FEAR

1) i doubt that thing will support any pc 5300/667mhz ram, which will give performance boast if you're using shared memory gpu.

2) it has no turbocache, meaning it can only use 16mb MAX, tell me how in the world 16mb is enough of for F.E.A.R., that even makes a x1400 (that is infinitly better then that card) cry at med settings with shadows on... you need a lot more DEDICATED vram then that.

hell, that thing won't even run windows vista premium, a GMA is better then that

 

Well, the GF2 doesn't have any pixel or vertex shaders, along with other things like a decent amount of memory or clock speeds. It's not just the speed or memory, it's the capabilities that also make a video card. You and your friend, teach him a lesson, he might listen to you in the future!

 

Sorry Mike but you haven't a clue what you're talking about. A Geforce 2, even the mobility variant, will run the original HL and all mods at high settings without much bother.

As for your at least 8 years old comment? You do realise you are talking about the era of Unreal Tournament and Half Life, not to mention Quake III, all of which came out before the Geforce 2 was even introduced. Get your facts straight please, it's quite unfair to be spouting such mis-information to somebody.

As for Duke Nukem - what decade are you living in. Duke Nukem 3D would run maxed out on any old piece of crap card, in fact, it would probably run in 256 color mode in XP without any actual display drivers installed.

 

pwned



8 years in the computer world is like 100 years in the real world

i had no idea HL would run on high on all mods with on only a 16mb card, i mean WOW, that is amazing

 

Actually, a 16mb card was very good and the Geforce 2, even though it's the Go model, was considered a luxury after when Half-Life 1 or CS were released. 256mb RAM was like 2gb back in the 20th century, when UT was released (I remember 256mb RAM being the Holy S#$* config). Still, F.E.A.R is out of the question. I suppose Mike did exaggerate, and eventually got pwn3d.

 

I ran half life 2 very well on my g4mx 420 with 32 mb ram

That was the most advanced game it ran. that was the end.

I think you are slightly underestimating the 16 mb 2 go, I think it may run hl2.

hl2 was coded very effeciently.

 

I'm afraid the Geforce Go 2 16mb will not be enough to run HL2. The video memory isn't enough, and even if you could run it, it'd be laggy in any big fights as well as having to turn off all of the settings. Don't forget to consider the Go factor. The Geforce 4 MX was pretty much a Geforce 2 overclocked, while the Geforce Go 2 would be even slower than the desktop version. Oh yea, and though this is out of this topic, could you please give us a taste of gaming performance on something like BF2142 on your A8Js stamar? Thanks.

 

my geforce was the 420 go, the lowest g4mx

it had 32 mb. it ran hl2 at 1024 x 768 very well, through the entire game.

I feel very confident that hl2 will run on any geforce 2 card.

this g42 is going to be even slower than mine but I bet it runs it. try 640 x 480 or something.

Ive played oblivian and gothic 3 with the 7700 go

oblivian was most impressive. all settings high, distance settings middle ( this is the auto config) going at 50-60 fps. Some stutters probably dealing with a driver or a patch or something.



gothic 3 all settings high 1440 x 900 25-30 fps. This game is much harder on the system although it looks much older school. So many people walking around. Might need more than 1 gb I suspect.

All the other games I played were at maximum settings at least 60 fps but those were the only two really system testing games

the others were like homm 5 nwn 2 and etc that are really older tech.

 

Beautiful, thanks for you benchmarks, they sound much better than the 7600 Go. Oblivion on High with distance settings on med (is distant land, trees etc on?) and also I was wondering whether you were using bloom or HDR lighting? You know, there's a couple of optimization guides around, which can icrease performance because it enables shader model 3 as well as a dual core optimization. But anyways, I don't want to trouble you but some scores would be awesome.

Thanks for the results!

 

i have 3dmark 05 and o6 scores in my signature

its very hard to understand im sure but the numbers are there it has stock then overclock.

Big difference over the 7600. more than 150% of the speed. Ill look into those oblivian things that would be great.

 

150%, wow, that's a lot more in contrast to the x1600/x1700 . Thanks for looking into oblivion, appreciate it.

 

something like 1000 points in the 05 and 600 points in the 06 score...

 

I thank all of you for the awnsers. I see that a lot of you are talking about HL2, he can play it pertty well, and that is why he thinks that he can F.E.A.R. Okay, then I shall just help him build up a desktop just for his gaming needs. I think that an ATI x1950 xtx should run it, if not, I shall destroy the game.

 

A 1950XTX for FEAR? OVERKILL!!!! Says me with the rig..... although that aint true with the new 8xxx series by NVDIA

 

Look! A Fear Demo

 

Sure! No problem! Just tell him to cut the thermo sensor out from his Geforce, hard-OC it to 900Mhz/1000Mhz, do the same for the CPU and HDD (for the HDD I would remove the voltage regulator for the slot it's attached to, if there is one, and add some extra juice...maybe an extra 20 Amps of current), and wallah...he'll have a machine that can "pwn" FEAR no problem.

Course I didn't say for how long*.

* Your mileage may vary

 

HAHAHahhaahhaha

nice one gatordude

though that video is probably a fake

i don't think even if you OC that much, it'd be possible to run fear, 16mb of shared ram is just not enough for FEAR

 

hmmmmm it seems I forgot that you'll need a faster optical drive as well...

 

You could overclock it to 5ghz/5ghz for all fear cares as it requires DX8 (at least) hardware compatability (might even be 9) and the Geforce 2/4mx are Dx7 chips.

 

But they are 100% compatiable with Dx8 games...

and fear can use dx8 shaders but still need a dx9 card to run the game i think

 

cd overclocking is fake too, i mean where is the line that runs from the PSU to the wall socket?

unless it's a magical cd rom drive that doesn't need power, i'd say they just stuck several firecrackers together

 

Yeah. I guess I was a little wrong.. BUT I was correct about CS 1.6. My cousin has a Geforce 4 MX 440. He has the settings on LOW and it still is choppy. He told me that CSS runs better than CS, I think it it just Valve but hey. Just my 2 Cents.

 

That's still wrong, obviously he has or had a problem with his card. I could run CS 1.6 on high settings on a TNT2 card, the predecessor to the Geforce 256 original card. A Geforce 4, even the MX, can run Unreal Tournament 2004 on fairly high settings, let alone something as trivially ancient as CS 1.6!

In fact, I even remember running Day of Defeat and CS on my old 8Mb Rage Mobility in my old IBM - it ran at high settings without any real problems.

Remeber - when Half Life came out in 1998, an 8mb card was the recommended spec, and cards like the Geforce weren't even on the market back then, let alone a Geforce 4 Mx.

 

3d acceleration has been pretty common since 1999.

 

COMPATABLE but not COMPLIANT, it recieves the calls then basically tells DX8its a DX7 card and not to bother with any DX8 effects, if the game has no DX7 fallback effects it WILL NOT RUN.

 

Windows XP/2000 with Service Packs, Pentium 4 1.7 GHz or equivalent, 512 MB RAM, 5 GB hard disk space, DirectX 9.0-compliant sound card, 64 MB GeForce 4 Ti or Radeon 9000 or equivalent with hardware T&L and PS, DirectX 9.0c April edition

Your totally out of luck I'm afraid, the GeForce 2 is Direct X 7, and the game is Direct X 9c. Stuff in the game would look very strange...

Perhaps you'd have Green Walls instead of a brick work texture
It happend when I ran Counter-Strike:Source on a 16MB GeForce Go 2