Need Serious Help ! my 8600m gt only shows 16 shaders /;!

As the title said GPU-Z shows that i only got 16 shaders on my 8600m gt /;.
so i where wondering if any of u could tell me how to get it from 16 shaders to 32 as it should have. I read about some other with same problem and he said he solved it by using rivatuner. i tryed it but i couldent find out how to ); soo please if any know how to do it please guid me (; thx

my laptop is a MyBook 1719 C2D T7300 2gb ram 8600m gt windows xp.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=184517

 

Have you checked your power settings? That was raised as a potential problem in this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=183532

 

checked it and wasn't the problem.

 

Which company makes that notebook how come I never hear of it? A google search show up with WesternDigital MyBook External drive..and bunch of irrelevant topics.

 

I think its a Danish company also known as Vega. (Mybook.dk)
But do u know how to get my shaders from 16 to 32 using RivaTuner ?

 

Can you make sure that you have the 8600m GT instead of the of 8600m GS? I am suspecting that you have a 8600m GS instead of a GT, GS only has 16 shaders.

Btw, Shaders are part of the hardware, so if you don't have 32 to begin with, you can't just change a setting using software to make it 32.

 

I'm 100% sure that i have a 8600m gt. i have tryed alot of difrents programs and they all says that i have a 8600m gt. so if u know how to help me get 32 shaders please say it.

 

Different programs?? Use the Nvidia control panel.

 

i have and it says its an 8600m gt.

 

what are the clocks? Hell, I can make my 7600 gt think its a 8600gt. it could be a renamned gs

 

I'm 100% sure that its a 8600m gt so if u know how to help me then please tell it....

 

Run 3DMark05/06 benchmarks. If you get similar results as those with the same 8600M GT, then you can be sure that you have the 8600M GT with 32 shaders. If your card has 16 shaders, your scores won't get even close.

 

Have you tested the card's actual performance? The only way to know for sure if there is a problem is to see if you get the performance you'd expect.

GPU-Z is not foolproof. It can report wrong information just like anything else.
You don't "need serious help" unless there actually is a problem. And there is only a problem if your card doesn't perform as well as it should.

What number GPU-Z says doesn't really matter. If it's right, there's something fishy going on, but you don't know that it's right yet.

 

My card does no even get close to other 8600m gt's. 3dmark 06 3400 points (standard) and this is when i have overclocked if from 475/400 to 660/480.
so im pretty sure that some thing is very wrong.

 

my scores in 3dmark06 is 2200 when i have it on default clock 475/400.
so there is some thing wrong.

 

What resolution?

What driver are you using?

Is your card DDR2 or GDDR3?
EDIT: nvm, it appears to be DDR2, but what about the first 2 questions? More info is needed before we can help you.

 

its DDR2 and im using 169.04. my 3dmark06 is running 1280 x 854 AA none Texture Filtering Optimal.

 

Is it possible for you to get GPU-Z and post the screenshot of the result?

I posted my result to prove that you can fool windows to think you have another card. See, how my says 8600 GTS instead of 8600m GT.

 

im not sure if this work, but take a look.

http://s257.photobucket.com/albums/hh203/junes123/?action=view&current=16shaders.jpg

 

hmm, I am taking a blind guess, I am guessing that it is a cripple MSI version of the 8600m GT. Kind of like how Dell cripple the 8600 with DDR2 ram, but MSI just take it even further and possible with just a BIOS lock, that I am not sure. But your card is not a standard DDR2 8600m GT that is wildly known on this board, because if you look at the default clock, it is 400 Core, and not the standard 475 for the other DDR2 and DDR3 version of 8600m. I hate to break it to you, but there is a possibility that your card is designed that way, that it only has 16 shaders, or the manufacture locked it at 16 shader. Why? I have no idea, and I am only guessing that they " locked" it, the other 16 shaders might not even exist. This is the best I can say, if other people knows how to "fix" this, lend this guy a hand or correct me if I am wrong.

 

But try take at look at this. http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=184517
Another guy with the exact same laptop as my is solvering the problem by using Rivatuner to get all 32 shader back online /;
I just dont know how he is doing it. if any of u know how to, then please write a messege how to do it (;
Maby theres still hope (;

 

Well, you may PM him and ask for his help.

This is a guide for an older card, but the process should be the same, assuming that it is a bios lock only, you should be able to unlock them. If you successfully unlock them test out the performance to see if it it "Truely" unlocked, why? reason below. And here comes the standard disclaimer WARNING: You are doing this at your own risk, I have no responsibility for the damage done to your card.

Reason: After reading all the "Unlock-able pipes threads" online on 8800 GTS, and 8800 GT threads which all mentioned the same thing that even though Rivatuner display that the extra shaders are unlocked but it actually didn't. Because the 6xxx series are the last ones that Nvidia used Bios/driver to lock and differentiate the level of cards. All 7-series and 8-series are believed to be "laser-cut" physically. There are however rumors online that 8-series can be unlocked, but never really proven.

 

i know that im going to take a risk (; but can u tell me how to unlock them ? (;

 

I posted the a guide for older cards, along with the disclaimer. Well here's the link again, just follow it carefully.

 

Whoa - that says 8600 GTS !!! No "M" in there either. That's weird!

 

Yeah, thanks to BlackBird's help and pointers, he help me installed the Nvidia driver without inf, and fooling windows into thinks it's 8600 GTS.

 

Thank u soo much Dragonpet (;! Now it says 32 shaders unified and it made a hugh improvment now i get 4333 3dmark06 scores with 1280*854 and clocks 635/480!
Im the happiest guy in the world ;D ;P!

 

No problem. I am glad, I was able to help and this is a good experience for me too. I didn't know there are 8600ms that need/can be unlocked. Hehe, well enjoy you new laptop.

 

Actually, there shouldn't be. Atleast all the benchmarks I found for Mybook/Vega 1719 indicate that it has 8600M GT with all 32 shaders in use.
f.ex.
- http://www.laptopworld.dk/Anmeldelser/Baerbare/132-vega-1719.html?start=6
- http://hwt.dk/literaturedetails.aspx?TeaserID=9059#top

Could Dragonpet or someone with 8600M GT test if Powermizer or other power settings in Windows disables those shaders to save battery? It might also be a driver conflict, meaning that there are remnants of older/corrupt drivers conflicting with new ones.

I'm just curious, even though the actual problem is somewhat fixed now. It shouldn't be users responsibility to do something like this to get things work right.

 

Or perhaps because of heat problems? Make sure your GPU isn't overheating when you overclock it. If it was (presumably) factory downclocked to 400MHz, then overclocking it to 635/480 would be a big heat difference.