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    Need help with my 980m, slow memory clock

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by danyune, Mar 12, 2016.

  1. danyune

    danyune Notebook Evangelist

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    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/7873387

    Any idea why it's not running at the proper 1253 clock? Even the 3dmark test is saying it's running at 799mhz just like nvidia inspector. The GPU-Z sensor also shows the same.

    Right now I have the prema 980m vbios in it, it didn't fix the clock issue compared to stock. I have even tried using the nvidia inspector to add 454mhz to accomodate, but it does not stick.

    This is in an MSI machine, so I was hoping someone ran into this problem and found a remedy!
     
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    First of all, show the sensors tab of GPU-Z. Also, make sure you are plugged in to AC adapter and also power profile is set to high performance.
     
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    Here you are sir.

    It is 100% plugged in
    It is also set to high performance
    Windows update has no drivers to update
    Nvidia driver is the newest driver
     
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    First, 1253mhz is not an issue nor a miss representation of the speed. 1253 is basically the same as what inspector is reporting: 2503. The reason for that.... I forgot but it has to do with GDDR5 being twice as fast, and then double data rate of the memory, so the 6ghz speeds are being divided by 4. I am too sleepy to remember all of this.

    What you are showing us is the 1600mhz memory speed instead of 2500mhz speed. Fire up a game while monitoring to see if the speeds are stuck. When did this start to happen? I have had some games run at such speed due to nvidia control panel being adaptive performance.
     
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    Well you can see it in 3dmark11 results as linked above as well.

    My P770ZM's 980m runs at the full advertised speed, just this one isn't. And as mentioned, prema vbios didn't change that either.

    Is it typical for MSI cards to run slower than clevo? The scores also reflect the speed, getting ~7200 vs ~8000 on firestrike
     
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    Obviously something is wrong since your gpu is reported to run a 2500mhz but it is running at 1600mhz.

    What drivers do you have? Try reinstalling with DDU. I have had buggy drivers and software previously stuck my clocks are such memory speeds. Its one of the P states of the GPU.

    Its been a while since my GPU clocks ever got stuck.
     
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    Alright I will give that a shot right now.

    Is it worth going back to stock vbios? I extracted it and saved it on the HDD incase the prema bios messes something up, but seems to have written without issue.
     
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    Tried DDU, reinstalled 364.51, still stuck at 1598mhz, bleh.

    It is OEM with the model and not an upgrade.

    http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/7873387/fs/7293660

    Sucks cause it's a very clear reduction in score with the clocks :( (MSI 980m vs clevo 980m there)
     
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    Premas Vbios work fine. I am using it right now. Something is not keeping your machine at high performance.

    What laptop do you have? As in specific model. Do you have Dragon center utility? If so, are you in sport mode or shift or something like that?

    Are you using Premas v1 or v2?
     
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    Currently Prema v2 so I can use the latest drivers. I plugged in kill-a-watt and it's nowhere near the PSU cap, which I think if it would use too much it'd just trip and turn off.

    Right now I just said screw it and am reformatting, maybe something got messed up. I received it with windows already on it, so I figure I might as well start from scratch then re-report in

    Surprisingly, it is not a laptop, but has all laptop components. It's one of the AG270 AIO machines, which uses laptop components
     
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    I just ran into the similar type of issue and the Dota2 ran fine but 799MHz and perfcap said pwr, The backstory is I had my laptop sleep without AC adapter and ran dota2 after powering it on, I had removed the power adapter and plugged it back and memclock boosted to normal speed...

    EDIT : Your perfcap says nothing, weird, Did you try running AAA title ?
     
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    I've actually not used it to play a game yet, just downloaded 3dmark to score it, figured it's the same type of GPU taxing as a GPU intensive game does.

    I just got windows installed and updated it, updated drivers, and the 799mhz is still there. sadface
     
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    Played h1z1, not like the FPS was awful or anything, but the memory clock did not change. Strange that it's that and only that.

    Perhaps it's just made this way, I don't know
     
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    This is probably too late but anyway: My 980M often gets stuck in some kind of lower power state and lower clock if I boot on battery, even if I plug the cable immediately after hitting the button. Are you booting plugged in?
     
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    Yeah, there is no battery pack so it has to boot with power. I just sort of accepted that it'll be clocked this way
     
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    Does your laptop have a stealth mode? Often my 980M is stuck in this "mode" I simply flick stealth on and off and the clocks load back to full 3D 1250mhz.

    Another way around this is to use Nvidia Inspector and simply force the clocks up. Your vram is running is a different 3d clock mode so overclock that up to stock and you should be good.

    If you are happy to accept the vram downclocked it means you lose around 15-20% fps at half speed. It also means that the card runs much cooler :)

    For some games I prefer this crippled state due to this fact.
     
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    I think the issue is that it is not a laptop. Maybe the AIO does have different clockspeeds. Which would be weird. There might be some secret setting that is keeping your 980m in a lower power state so it doesn't boost to max speeds.
     
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    Thanks for the idea, but I have already tried nvidia inspector. I've tried raising is very little and a lot, which both do nothing for some reason. The clock doesn't stick, though I can move the slider bar. But when I apply it, it instantly resets to stock

    Might just be an AIO thing. I do find it strange that it's clocked as so. Any idea if putting the MSI 980m in a clevo would mess anything up? Just wanted to see if it was the AIO mobo unable to translate the 980m speed or the card itself is just clocked at 799
     
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    Are you overclocking the correct "Performance Level" it isn't PO you want to change to get the vram speed up when its throttled. More likely P1. P1 by default is locked at 1600mhz (800mhz) so unlock clocks and try changing the values under P1.

    Basically your core is running at P0 and vram at P1. Because vram is in a "throttled" state you simply can't change the core speed even if you wanted to but the vram is easy to change if you venture into other performance states and change the values.

    This technique gives you freedom to run at full stock clocks and vram at any speed. The core unless you get Prema to make you a special vbios with higher core speed will remain locked at 1120mhz until you can figure out why your machine is throttling the card.
     
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    I think the BIOS itself my be preventing the GPU to the correct Power level, so it makes sense, as King of Interns mentions, that you overclock the P1 instead.