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    Need help, flashing 2080 Max-Q

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by JRey, Feb 12, 2019.

  1. JRey

    JRey Notebook Evangelist

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    Hey everyone.
    I'm looking to flash my 2080 Max-Q 80w into the 90w. I found someone reliable with a 90w bios of the same card.
    Any help is appreciated. I'm pretty afraid to flash a laptop honestly even though I've flashed desktop GPUs.

    Thanks.
    -JRey
     
  2. Vistar Shook

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    Just make sure you have a backup of the original vbios somewhere safe in case the flash turns out bad.
     
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  3. ryzeki

    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    Anyone know any particular requirements we need to fulfill? To add a bit into the topic, the 90w version JRey has is from the Razer laptop, so how safe is to flash that vbios to the MSI 2080?
     
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    Is the 2080 vBIOS embedded into the MSI BIOS image? I would reach out to Svet on the MSI forums and see if you can't get him to add the option rom and recompile the BIOS image and make it flashable. I'm almost certain you don't have a dedicated vbios chip. You can test this by simply trying to save your current vbios file using GPU-Z.
     
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    GPU-Z has issues even on cards with their own vBIOS chip. I had to use NvFlash to dump mine.
     
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    No doubt it can, but it has been my experience that you can't dump the vbios if it's contained in the BIOS image.
     
  7. Zill

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    I would really like to know if you guys get this working.

    I would like to flash my 2070 MQ (TongFang 15) using the bios of the same laptop but 17 inch with the full 2070 ( could be anywhere between 90-115W) and experiment with it.

    I also believe that the vbios is embedded in the mobo so most chassis from same manufacturer should be compatible but might require some modding.

    If anyone could give me even the slightest glimpse of hope of lifting my 2070 MQ power limit somehow (initially wanted to flash the razer 2070 MQ 90W vbios but different manufacturer is a prob) I would be IMMENSELY grateful. Would really help me with my depression

    Thank you.
     
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  8. Vasudev

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    I don't think you can bypass security restriction and not to mention different vendor id. You can try undervolting it using MSI AB for getting consistent FPS and frametime within rated TDP of 80W. Main issue will be thermal limits. I think Razer puts 80C as thermal limit.
     
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  9. JRey

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    I haven’t been successful with flashing via nvflash.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    So you flashed same brand to a non Max Q vbios? This is what I want to try with the GS75, flash a GE75's vbios to make it a full GPU. The problem in my case is the PSU won't like it and I don't think we have higher wattage PSUs of this same connector.

    A full RTX2080 on the GS, while limiting clocks and undervolting a bit might work... I think 100W should be more than fine ;)
     
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  11. JRey

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    Thanks to Zill, I’ve successfully flashed my 80w 2080 Max Q to 90w version. I’ll be running tests tonight.


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    Awesome, what did you end up using? Regular nvflash? Let us know how it goes and how much performance improved!
     
  13. JRey

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    I used nvflash lol


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  14. ryzeki

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    did you have issues at first sending the command because of optimus and intel being the GPU0? haha :p

    I look forward to your impressions of the 90w, because I have become deadset in flashing the full 2080 to the laptop mwuahahaha.
     
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  15. JRey

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    It was my own stupid error. Didn’t realize I had to use CMD and use Nvflash64 lol... noob


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  16. ryzeki

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    Hey don't sweat it, and no need to call yourself names. We are all noobs at first, at everything, then we get experience and learn!
     
  17. Lamim Rashid

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    How are the results? Im super curious. I might get a 2080mq and try to flash it to 2080 cause there are some pretty cheap 2080mq laptops out there (around the same price as full 2070 ones).
     
  18. JRey

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    I’ll be posting a blog about it today or tomorrow along with links to the 80w and 90w bios.


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    Last edited: Feb 15, 2019
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    Awesome stuff. Looks like it's better to just overclock the 2080mq 80w than to flash it to a 90w since it would give similar performance at slightly less heat and power usage, without voiding warranty too. Any chance you could try flashing a full laptop non-mq 2080 bios? Im sure there might be some lower watt models out there that would work the same way Zil was able to flash a non-mq 2070 bios on his 2070mq laptop. Right now I dont see much of a reason to go a 2080mq over a 2070, but would consider it if it could be flashed to a full 2080. Might perform really well with some tweaking afterwards.
     
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    If someone can provide a bios and a GPU Z screenshot, I may try it.


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    Anyone got a full 2080 vbios? Would love to see jrey give a full 2080 vbios flash a shot
     
  24. ryzeki

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    It's going to be hard due to excessive temps and power requirements (we would need a higher wattage PSU).
     
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    Yeah, would definitely require undervolting and underclocking to work unless there was a lower watt full 2080 model out there.
     
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    Any progress with this?
     
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    Just bumping to see if any progress was made flashing a desktop, or even laptop variant onto the 2080 max q. I’m using the Zephyrus Gx531gx and I absolutely have thermal headroom, but unsure about power supply issues.


    This is interesting. Thank you for doing this. I have a Zephyrus Gx531gx. It seems this max q is just about thermals and with liquid metal in this build I never exceed 60c under load with max fans. Because of this my Ungine Heaven scores are about 400 points higher than your 90 watt scores. My highest to date is 2970 with the Zephyrus 2080 max q, but routinely 2900+.

    Edit: I read further saw you got closer to those numbers with some OC.
     
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