New 55nm cards

With these new 55nm ATI and nividia cards being released for desktops, how long do you think before mobile versions would be made available?

It seems ATI and nvidia are both pushing these out the door early for the holiday season.

I would speculate a 8800GT mobile version would be the first 55nm card made available, since there is no current card in that category. while the replacement for the 8600GT would come out a bit later to use up the current stock.

Be great if the 8800GT comes in 2 versions. A GT version to replace the 8600GT and a GTX version to reign supreme. However the practical side of me knows the performance differential wont be there to make it viable.

ATI will do something similar.

 

Speculation can go as far as you'd like but a source on where you read about the 55nm cards release dates would be appreciated for those not in the know. As for the mobile variants it would be best to just possess one of the engineers in NVIDIA and extract all the information from the brain and coworkers for the most accurate information, I'm willing to take the wait and see approach with the company's next products.

 

Are you talking about cards like the G92? Because I was under the impression that had a 65nm die, not a 55nm one. And ATI already has 65nm mobile GPU's out. nVidia's the one who hasn't done the die shrink yet.

 

I believe the RV670 HD2950 is 55nm, also nvidia admitted defeat in RV670 vs G92 (although it was the inquirer so nobody knows)

for reference: RV670 = HD 2950 , G92 = 8800GT

 

That's possible, but what nVidia card has a 55nm die? None that I know of. Which makes the OP's statement : "With these new 55nm ATI and nividia cards being released for desktops" seem strange.

 

I haven't heard anything about ANY 55nm from anyone coming soon, only 65nm. I'd like to see something saying the 2950 is 55nm, and nVidia admitting defeat to anything as well.

You sure you didn't your wires crossed and are mixing the soon to be here Intel 45nm Peryn Extreme Quad-CPU with nVidia and AMD/ATi somehow?

 

That's why I requested the OP provide a link clearly stating the 55nm chip story. Most of the experts here haven't seem to have heard of this development yet.

 

ATI certainly has 55nm in the works, I wasn't contesting that (just google it), I was asking about nVidia, as to the best of my knowledge their next die shrink will be to 65nm on the G92 as opposed to the current 80nm die.

 

Just google it guys........RV670 = HD 2950 , G92 = 8800GT.

several sites say these cards will be late october,

this site seems to suggest Nvidia is testing 55nm as well. and several others......but there are also site stating that the G92 is 65nm........

http://digitimes.com/bits_chips/a20070328PB202.html

 

Well. the post was more of a question then me trying to pass off speculations as facts. no one will know anything for sure until these are in shops. but some 3dmark06 figures have been quoted and they are in the 10k+ range....dont have links sorry, google it.

 

Well I did find something that seems to be right up the alley here.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=9180

It talks about nVidia's G92(8800GT) which 65nm and it talks about AMD/ATi's new R670(2950) which is 55nm.

 

nVidia is just happy to start shipping 65nm (their currently available solutions at the moment are 80nm), the AMD is ahead on nVidia in the fabrication process at the moment, so AMD is going to ship 55nm parts starting with the RV670 (their current mobile parts are all 65nm). And it seems (at least according to the Inquirer) that the 55nm has allowed them to ship GPUs with single slot coolers and much lower power consumption (almost half of the 80nm 2900XT). Would be interested to know what the results would be for the mobile parts, but I don't think we will be seeing 55nm mobile parts anytime soon (plus, 55nm parts cost lesser too)

 

I'd prefer to wait until they were in shops before passing judgement. 3dmark06 benchmarks can be quoted beyond 20k and I still wouldn't believe the hype until an actual copy of said 55nm cards was available for testing in games.

I wonder if ATI's lead in manufacturing might help it make ground on the DX10 mainstream graphics market.

 

there isn't any sample pictures of the R670 but the 8800GT [g92] definitely have a single slot cooler design although it still looks very long.

 

The 55nm thing hasn't been confirmed but its everywhere so im assuming its true.

 

Link clearly you missed my own post, confirming it for myself. But thanks for the screenshot of Google.