New ATI Cards Second Half of 2010

According to Fudzilla ATI is going to release a variant of their 5000 series cards with their own version of automatic GPU switching.

ATI reportedly working on new mobile chips - Graphics - Fudzilla

Looks like 2010's going to be a great year for mobile gpus.

 

As long as the GPU switching doesn't require any additional hardware, and hence requires essentially no effort on behalf of the manufacturer to implement, it's good news. A 15" laptop with a high-end switchable GPU would be great news, although I already own an MSI GX640.

It seems the parts will still be 40nm with 800 shaders, though, so it probably won't be a big jump in performance.

 

Great...

These wouldn't be the island cards perhaps?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...0727-ati-mobility-hd-6000-series-roadmap.html

Big jumps in performance from one mobile generation to the next isn't something consumers can really expect from manufacturers even with a die-shrink.


Islands will be 40nm and still use the same Evergreen tech for the cores but there's no real rumors yet about what the SPU counts will be. The top end Blackcomb GPU is rumored to have a 256-bit bus and GDDR5 for the memory and with the tweaks to the uncore that are being talked about we should see the same 15-20% gain over the current top-end GPU that we always get.

 

I was wondering when ATI would come up with a competitor to Optimus but I, personally, like to be able to switch graphics myself. Maybe I have control issues but I don't need no program telling me when I need more/less graphics power

 

I don't really care about manual vs automatic. To me, the big deal with Optimus is that it doesn't require specialised motherboard hardware, nor specialised drivers. It's these factors that are the greatest impediment to switchable graphics, and if ATI can get rid of them as well, that will be great. The other big issue with current switchable graphics is the whole "blocking programs" thing, which is simply a nuisance.

Switchable graphics done properly would mean that, in future, every laptop to use a video card from either ATI or Nvidia that also has an IGP will have switchable graphics, and you'll just be able to get drivers from ATI's or Nvidia's website.

 

ATi has had this for a while.

From the sound of it, it's the opposite. It's ATi that is first to provide this technology with high end GPUs. I have not read of any indication that the Clevo D900 F has optimus. Whereas it seems whichever notebook that will have this new ATi Vancouver chip, will be able to compete with excellent performance and and with even better battery life.

 

The D901F doesn't have Optimus for an entirely obvious reason - the desktop quad-core CPUs it's using don't have integrated graphics. The problem is the same for many higher-end notebooks, which typically offer the mobile quad-cores that also don't have integrated graphics. Sure, the W880CU could potentially offer Optimus in Core i5 models, but I'd say they would expect most people to go for a quad-core i7 considering the laptop is so expensive to begin with, and so they didn't think it was worth changing much from the previous W870CU. In addition to that, given the weak batteries that tend to come with Clevo models, you can't expect much battery life even when switched to an IGP. Battery life obviously doesn't concern Clevo much.

However, I do agree that ATI is likely to be the first to offer switchable graphics on a high-end card without dedicated motherboard hardware and the driver issues that go with it. It's almost certain that this technology will come with AMD CPUs, at least at first, though.

 

GO ATI nvidia doesnt even try

 

Oh great the ati mobility 6000 series. I didn't think they would be released until January next year seeing as the 5000 series have only been out for 6 months and the mobile graphics is usually released a few months after the desktop ones. It makes me feel outdated and my laptop I ordered hasn't even arrived yet!

 

man. My laptop I haven't ordered isn't even out yet (it is in a few days) and now this shows up.


decisions decisions

 

I would wait. The 5870's replacement will be worth it.

 

Hmm this doesn't seem to be the case. It looks like the current 5xxx series is just getting a face lift.

HD5xxx with ATi's version of Optimus and Eyefinity is the Vancouver.

The 6xxx have code names named after Southern Islands.

 

oh but I'm going for a 5650 and an evy14.

not something like a g73

edit: also I'm on an old asus G1 with a go 7700. It's a few years old. It also has a crack on a hinge somewhere (first time I've noticed it).

 

Oh, ok. No reason to wait and see then.

 

Southern Island names are for the desktop parts....Antilles, Cayman, Barts, Turks, and Caicos.

Vancouver is Northern Islands.

 

Optimus-like switchable graphics from ATI in a 5870 replacement could definitely be worth it. However, since the Envy 14 already has switchable graphics, a new version of the 5650 isn't worth that much to you.

 

well.

I would love if switchable graphics would show up in something stronger than a 335m or 5650 (or 5730) but...nope. tired of waiting for a new computer. And this one's well..it's running fine...minus the fan making a loud noise.

edit: 'course it's been making that loud noise for a year or so.

 

This is so annoyingly convoluted.

 

It's actually a lot less convoluted than the original rumors of Southern Islands being a 40nm half-gen GPU made at TSMC and Northern Islands being a second set of 28nm new architecture based GPUs fabbed at GloFo later on in 2011.

Southern Islands and Vancouver are like Evergreen and Manhattan.

 

Great. I just order the G73 two days ago, and this shows up.

 

Don't be fooled into any overly optimistic notions of being able to buy Vancouver notebooks in the next couple of months just because the second half of 2010 starts next week.

Think more like 7-10 months.

 

I would have liked switchable graphics

Oh well, I'd just feel the same once northern islands came out if I'd got the southern islands. I always love to try to stay up to date it's an obsession of mine. If only I could afford a new laptop every few months