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    New Acer Go7600 or X1400

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by hori, Jan 9, 2006.

  1. hori

    hori Notebook Consultant

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    looking at buying new acer dual core and narrowed it down to two models which are nearly the same but one has Go7600 and other Ati X1400 just wondering which would be better card, thanks
     
  2. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Its way too early on to say....

    Wait a few weeks...
     
  3. Dustin Sklavos

    Dustin Sklavos Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Actually, the Go7600 is an 8-pipeline part; X1400 is just four, it's just an overclocked X1300.

    Go7600 will be faster.
     
  4. Shampoo

    Shampoo Notebook Deity

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    Go anything Nvidia.

    Just Go it. Nvidia :D

    Pulp is right on the button. More pixels baby, more pixels. Go with the 7600.

    Cheers,
    Mike
     
  5. Darbyjack

    Darbyjack Notebook Evangelist

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    if u like nvidia so much why do u have a laptop with an ATI card? :p
     
  6. circa86

    circa86 Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    the nvidia card really will be better though, it is such a shame that ATI won't come out with better mobility cards compared to Nvidia.
     
  7. hori

    hori Notebook Consultant

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    the specs for the acer 5670 is ati X1400 with 128mb ram with up to 384mb shared 512mb total with hyper memory. The system has 2 gigs of 677 ram so I was thinking that card should fly, however the other model acer 5650 with same 2 gig 677 ram which has 7600go and the only info on the card is 256 MB of VRAM ?
     
  8. Charles P. Jefferies

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    I wouldn't buy a notebook that is short on Video RAM and then depend on HyperMemory to boost performance - it won't do you much good.

    Get at the least 128MB of video memory if you plan on playing games. Just about all of the new games right now require 64MB of video memory; some, such as BattleField 2, require 128MB (although, I've run it with a 64M card). But still, having 128MB+ is good for the future.

    I'm a broken record, but the Go7600 is the faster card. That competes with the Radeon X1600.
     
  9. hori

    hori Notebook Consultant

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    just found 3D Mark 05 from both Ati and Nvidia

    X1600-4050 7600Go-4050
    X1400-2300 7300Go-1800
    X1300-1800 6200Go-1000
    X600 - 1500

    these scores were by each manufacture posted on LG site as each of there models have both ati and nvidia cards and each had there card 3D mark 05 listed

    So looks like the 7600go is awesome
     
  10. cbrviper

    cbrviper Notebook Guru NBR Reviewer

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    looks like the x1400 is even slower than the x700 that it replaces
     
  11. iCamp

    iCamp Notebook Consultant

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    Where does the x700 fit into that 3D Mark comparison?

    Are there other notebooks currently using the nVidia 7600 part?

    OT: I really wish there was an easy way to search notebooks via video card. Just select the video card you want and see a list of the currently available computers built around that part. How handy would that be?
     
  12. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    The X1400 does not replace the X700. The X1600 replaces the X700.

    The X700 128MB gets about 2500-2600 in 3DMark05.
     
  13. peeldaman

    peeldaman Newbie

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    Hey,

    I've been looking for a laptop that was portable, can play newer games well (like city of heroes, WoW, etc) and simply runs good in general. Also, my budget is $1500 or so. The 5672seems great, but problems I've heard about are that it has some heating issues(feels hot on the hands when playing extended time with 3d games), and also it has ATI x1400. From what I understand, ATI x1400 cards give up a little bit of power to be able to have less heat, but this doesn't seem to be the case with the 5672. Although, the one with 2GB RAM seems like it could run any MMORPG with ease? Would I be better off finding another laptop with ATI x1400 that doesnt have heating issues?(suggestions on which laptops welcome). The computer would not need to run quite as well as the 5672, because I generally only use internet, word, etc. if not gaming. And on an aside I'm not completely sold on the widescreen of the 5672.

    Plus, there is the 5650 that is coming out sometime(?). In comparison, the acer 5650 will have Go7600. Does anyone know or can roughly predict when it will be available and at what price? Also, I assume it would have as much of a heating problem, if not more than the 5672? And what about the weight on it as well?

    Also, I've seen mention about new wireless technology with the 5650, but I'm a PC newb, and can't understand it. (3G wireless tech, http://www.laptopical.com/3g-wireless-in-acer-laptops.html). Having good wireless will be very important for me, and I was wondering if this improvement is significant?

    So, taking all this into account, if anyone can give me some good advice it would be much appreciated, thanks. :)
     
  14. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Yeah, with 2GB of RAM, you can run any game you want without problems. I have all the latest games - Quake 4, FEAR, BF2, BattleFront 2, Call of Duty 2 - I never run out of RAM with 2GB, in neither my laptop or my desktop.

    I haven't heard anything with regards to heating issues; I'd see if you can get some more user comments. However, I don't doubt that it gets hot. I had an Acer before, and it did run quite warm. I never liked the cooling solutions in them.

    At $1,500, the Acer is nice, but I would also explore other options. The HP dv4000 should be a very attractive option, better build quality than the Acer IMO, I've had both HP and Acer notebooks in the past.

    You can get the HP with a 128MB X700, which is a step above the X1400 in terms of 3D performance.

    I'm not a great networking/wireless person . . might try posting that and asking about the 3G in the Networking & Wireless forum. :)

    Cheers
     
  15. peeldaman

    peeldaman Newbie

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    Thanks for your quick response and suggestion of the HP dv4000 with updated x700 graphics card. Here are the some of the specs I found on both: (at about $1500 each)

    HP dv4000
    Intel(R) Pentium(R) M Processor 740 (1.73 GHz)
    512MB DDR2 SDRAM
    80 GB 5400 RPM Hard Drive
    ATI x700

    Acer 5672WLMi
    Intel Core Duo Processor T2300, 1.66GHz, with Centrino Technology, 2GB RAM, 120GB Hard Drive
    ATI x1400

    I have been looking up lots of reviews on the HP, and they all seem solid. A concern I have however is that this came out last year, and they were written before 5672 was an option. And reviews on the 5672 are hard to come by. Also, which one do you think will run games the best straight out of the box? And which has the most potential? I figure the acer with 4 times the ram (plus hypermemory(dont quite understand what that is)) would outperform the HP, but which would be better if the HP was upgraded to 1 GB RAM, or 2GB RAM? Also, if a computer is running hot often, is that bad/damaging to the laptop long-term? And finally, is one processor clearly better than the other? Thanks!
     
  16. Charles P. Jefferies

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    The HP has better build quality and a nicer screen, in addition to a better design IMO.

    Have you seen the Acer in person? I would really make an attempt to do that; the screens aren't their strong point.

    In terms of potential - the Acer will get you a bit farther because it is dual-core, and there will be games coming out that can support it.

    Straight out of the box - if the HP only has 512MB of memory [I assume that you are getting memory aftermarket], then it won't do so well. However, with 1-2GB of RAM and the X700, it will be faster than the Acer in gaming.

    Processor clearly better? They both have relatively the same performance in single-threaded applications, but multi-threaded ones, the Core Duo will own the PM.

    Although the Acer won't be as powerful in gaming [single-threaded] out of the box, it will last you longer in terms of technology in the long run.
     
  17. raven88

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    so on the ati mobility x1300 or x1400 the hypermemory means it has shared vram?
     
  18. Charles P. Jefferies

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    It will have some shared RAM if the card uses HyperMemory, yes. The X1300/X1400 will still have some dedicated memory though.

    Typically, from what I have seen, if a laptop has, for example, "256MB HyperMemory", it probably has 128MB dedicated and an additional 128MB shared. Same for "128MB HyperMemory" - it should have 64MB dedicated and 64MB shared.

    Cheers
     
  19. raven88

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    thanx chazman! any idea how that works with acers in terms of memory? (the models that have a core-duo cpu have the following options:256 and 512 hypermemory)
     
  20. Charles P. Jefferies

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    If it has 512MB HyperMemory, it should have 256MB dedicated.
     
  21. ElvesBrew

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    this new Acer Go7600 is already avialable in Poland sold in two models one is with 512 MB RAM the other is 1024, there's also a difference in the amount of RAM on the card...the better one has 256 MB...it looks like a great choice given the price
     
  22. Maple1

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    how does the 7800 compare to the 7600?
     
  23. Charles P. Jefferies

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    They don't compare, they are in different classes. If you want a gaming machine, go for the 7800, and for some mobility and battery life in a smaller package, then the 7600 is your ticket.
     
  24. Maple1

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    sweet deal yea..i was running the ATI X300 before with the 9300, how is the 7800 differ from that card?
     
  25. ochimaru

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    I've read that the x1400 is a half-step between x600 & x700 in scoring. But the x700 usually comes in much much more expensive laptops.


    It's really hard to compare GPU's when you're talking different price ranges. Sure, we'd all love to have the newest fastest GPU, but realistically... we're all bound to a budget.
     
  26. Zhang

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    How does the Go7800 and the X1600 compare?

    About how long will the go7800 run in terms of running the most demanding games with 2GB of RAM?
     
  27. Lappy2go

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    well its the most powerful card for notebooks and it puts many desktop gpus to shame. until the 7900 comes out though. my advice. do not be worried. it will run games very well for at least 2 more years.