New Nvidia 9000 series GPU´s

Here are most of them with clocks and amount of shader processors

9800m GTX: Core 500 / Shaders 1250 / Mem 1600 / SP´s 112 / G92

9800m GT: Core 500 / Shaders 1250 / Mem 1600 / SP´s 96 / G94

9800m GTS: Core 600 / Shaders 1500 / Mem 1600 / SP´s 64 / G94

9700m GTS: Core 530 / Shaders 1325 / Mem 1600 / SP´s 48 / G94

 

Memory clock is 1600?! That can't be right...

 

Source or i have never seen... you cant be telling me that the 9800gt with the same SPs as the 8800GTX with DOUBLE the Memory clocks is getting slightly lower Frames.

 

guys nvidia always doubles the memory clock, not sure why they do it but they do. The memory clocks are at 800 not 1600.

 

its kinda obvious judging the performance, but to be honeslt my heart jumped for a sec

 

Yes of course mem clocks are at 800 x 2. I should have written that instead, though I think most people understand they are at 800 x 2

 

I'm an idiot, and I didn't catch it.

My fault...

 

Whats thr performance boost over the 8600M GT , 8700 and 8800 GTX ??

do you know when laptop manufactures will include them in their products

 

9700GTS will be 20-30% faster than a 8700gt "more SP's" and probably 265 bit?

9800m GTS is gonna be 5-10% faster than a 8800GTS (for the "new" series sake.. the Clocks are equal.)

9800gt is roughly and equal to 8800GTX based on benchmarks,

9800GTX 10% faster than 8800GTX in shader intensive games

and thats all based on my opinion.

 

Hmmm Cool.

Spose it will be a while before Alienware put the 9800 GTX givin they have only released the Area 51 models with 8800GTX. Maybe Dell will have it in the XPS by xmas

 

Wasnt the high end XPS discontinued?

 

Did Notebookcheck's benchmarks for the GT and GTX just go up, or had I just not noticed them before?

 

Nope. That was a misreport by Wall Street Journal stating that the XPS line would be discontinued. Also, wasn't the 9800M GT very slightly better than the 8800M GTX?

 

i forgot what was the user's name i'm actually digging it now, with his CPU @ 3ghz, 9800gt, he was scoring 9600 something, which is quite low.

 

Do you think Dell will have it in the 1730 or equivalent by xmas ??

 

yeap,it is a little better

 

Oh that, but if you look at the benchmarks posted using a 5796 with both cards, the 9800M GT actually did very slightly better.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=3627932&postcount=165

 

By Christmas? I would think most likely yes. Obviously I can't promise you that though.

 

not talking about Retailer mate, i'm talking about USER reviews. ive read one lately and did a bunch of fat comments, cant find it..

Lets say i was dreaming that i posted or something. but in the link you posted, cant you notice the Image Quality? look at the letter C, with 8800 GTX it looks neater

 

Okay... the brighter C, but lower FPS, take your pick.

Retailer or user, I would think that it doesn't quite matter when you take the exact same laptop, with the only difference being the GPU, and run it through a series of tests. A user or a retailer, should get the same results.

However, since the difference is essentially insignificant, I would venture to guess that yes, it would be possible in some tests for the 9800M GT to outperform the 8800M GTX. However, based on the particular tests provided by Sager, it would appear that the difference, if any, would be minimal.

And besides, you should know never to judge by 3Dmark06.

 

They won't rerun the benchmarks at a lower resolution so I can't compare my system -.-'.

 

EDIT:

i wont Judge on 3dmark06 when everything seems normal and friendly, but when someone OC thier CPU to 3.5ghz and cant fly above 10k points now thats wierd isnt it? thats where i start to believe in 3dmarko6, where i get 9250 points with my Old CPU.

@ Bwhxeon
you dont have an 1900x1200 screen?

 

bwxheon has a 1680 x 1050.

 

nope, hurts my eyes to much to use a resolution that high on this size screen.

 

read above, Edited post.

 

9700M GTS is a G94 so yes it's 256bits.

If the 9800M GTS is clocked at 600/1500, it's gonna be better than the 8800M GTS.

 

Fair enough. But if that's the case, the 9800M GT's performance would appear to be more likely be in line with the 8800M GTS, since the overclocked 8800M GTS (not sure what clocks) with a X9000 overclocked to 3.0 Ghz (limit) goes past 10k (3dmark 06 standard res).

And, no, I'm not saying the 9800M GT would perform similarly as the 8800M GTS.

 

then ill just overclock mine. boom ; same

 

Could be that the new 9 series has a more optimized core, thereby the 9800m GT performs slightly better than 8800m GTX. Though just speculation from my part of course.

These are all 256-bit by the way, all those I listed.

 

The 9800 can be oced too

@Magnus: Surprisingly, as seen with the 9600GT, the G94 performs better than what its tech sheet suggests it.

 

Sooooo, when are we going to see any good laptops with the 9800gt/x/s under $1500, like the Gateway P-6831 FX? that would be awesome if it could come out soon!

 

You can configure the MT860 for under 1500 with the Radeon 3870, which is between the 9800M GTS and GT IIRC

 

who makes that notebook, and i will NEVER buy ati because of its crappy performance in RTS games.

 

Clevo, Sager is its distributor in the US

 

I thought the 9600m GT was 128bit?

*EDIT* Just realized the 9700m is the lowest on the list.

 

Yes 9600m GT and below will probably be 128-bit.

 

How does NVIDIA justify the GTX being a $365 upgrade over the GT?

 

Its faster and the fastest laptop GPU available. That's enough.

 

Clevo/sager is setting the price right now for the 9800m gtx. There isn't anyone else to compare prices with.

 

9800GTX SLI ... when?? if someone will give me this answer I ll buy ya a 6pack.

 

You won't get a answer when sli will be available on a graphics card that isn't even released yet.

 

9500M G ->9700M GT=128bits
9700M GTS and up=256bits

 

What's the precedent for this situation? When other OEMs begin carrying the card, do they usually try to come out competitively at lower prices, or will they take advantage of the market by matching the current premium?

Humor my ignorance; I'm new to these things.

 

The thing is, adding a 8800m gtx to a np5793 brought the price to around 2000$. The 9800m gtx brings the laptop above 2100. So I would say its about 100$ overpriced, but that usually happens when a brand new product is released. Since a lot of high end montevina laptops aren't out yet, Dell, Alienware ect. I think its safe to say prices won't go down for a while.

 

yeah, why isnt the 9600M GT on there?

 

It's not considered a high-end card, so I'm guessing that's why he didn't put it on the list.

 

Clevo has pretty much all the market in high end laptops. IIRC Dell/Alienware high end laptops are Clevos so lol.

 

That's not true. Alienware hasn't used a Clevo since the M7700 series I believe, and Dell does not use a Clevo for its M1730 either.

 

^ yup. they use arima and some other company

 

Actually the 9800m GTS is the highest clocked of the bunch. This means it will easily push 700 MHz on the Core along with 1700+ on the Shaders. Seems like a really nice overclocker. Of course you can do this with 8800m GTX too with a minor voltage overvolt.