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    New details regarding upcoming GTX 780M

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Cloudfire, Mar 1, 2013.

  1. King of Interns

    King of Interns Simply a laptop enthusiast

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    In what way does AMD not work with intel? No problem with my 920xm + 7970M match up here.

    Oh wait this is a thread about NVidia no wonder about the groundless comments regarding AMD hardware lol.
     
  2. failwheeldrive

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    I think it's more about how Nvidia and AMD don't work well together, so obviously there's truth in the fact that Nvidia/Intel are a good match.
     
  3. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    A new day, more news :)

    Some reseller in Australia have listed "DreamBook Power P375", some sort of Clevo machine. It comes with Intel Haswell Processor and GTX 765M SLI as standard. But you can upgrade it to GTX 780M SLI!
    That will cost you $375 extra, or $190 per card. System Total: $3314 for 780M SLI + stock components.

    There is also a codename there for GTX 780M - "N14E-GTX". GTX 680M have the codename "N13E-GTX"

    NVIDIA® GeForce GTX780M (N14E-GTX)
    • 4GB GDDR5 Video RAM
    • Support PCIe x8
    • Microsoft DirectX® 11.1 compatible
    • MXM3.0 Type B
    • Support DisplayPort 1.2
    • NVIDIA PhysXTM
    • GeForce CUDATM technology
    • Support NVIDIA® SLI® technology

    Source: Laptop Computers | Notebook Computers | Tablet Computers - Pioneer Computers - Products - DreamBook Laptops - DreamBook Power 17" Notebook Computers $599-$2999 - DreamBook Power P375 SLI Haswell

    [​IMG]

    Also here is a diagram showing performance on all mobile GPUs. GTX 780M will be a step above GTX 680MX, and two steps above GTX 680M which I think is fair. GTX 780M will most likely have GPU Boost like the rest of the 700M series, reaching higher clocks than GTX 680MX. :)

     
  4. HTWingNut

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    Good info. That's just the P370EM that exists today though that comes with 680m SLI. But hopefully this means laptops will be up for sale as of June 3.
     
  5. Red Line

    Red Line Notebook Deity

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    Awesome news there) I seriously doubt clevo will release both 370em + 375sm (or whatever). This should be the new sucessor) May be will have all new card there!!! What is interesting:

    SOUND BLASTER® X-Fi® MB3 (previous was MB2)
    Two mSATA SSD
    Dual Camera 5.0M pixels / 1.0M HD video camera
    TPM1.2

    Great options and some nice improvements over the last year gen. Let's hope the cooling on this thing will be much better than the one on p370em

    and new 330W PSU? Awesome) Finally a new PSU (may be smaller, hehe) from clevo

    Full Range AC adapter, AC in 100~240V, 50~60Hz, DC output 19.5V, 16.9A, 330W
     
  6. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    30W extra juice compared to P370EM if I`m not wrong? :)
     
  7. sponge_gto

    sponge_gto Notebook Deity

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    Or 270W less.. All about the perspective ;)
     
  8. timehacker

    timehacker Notebook Enthusiast

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    Looks like the GTX 780m is going to have the same performance index as the Desktop GTX 660 TI
     
  9. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    drooling :D thanks Cloud!
     
  10. Onasi

    Onasi Notebook Guru

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    Wait, 780M the same as 660ti doesn't make any sense, as far as I know the 680M can already overclock to desktop 670 levels. Surely the 780M could go beyond that.
     
  11. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    were talking stock performance :) if 780m oc levels are comparable to the ones of 680m ull have urself a desktop 680/7970 ghz edition in a laptop :p

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  12. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    ... can overclock ...
     
  13. Undyingghost

    Undyingghost Notebook Evangelist

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    I thought 680m can match 660 ti...maybe overcklocked? 780m oc'd should be atleast close to 670.
     
  14. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    GTX 660 TI score about 7700 (Graphic score) in 3DMark11
    GTX 680M about 6000.
    GTX 680MX score 7000.

    So if the chart is correct that 780M = 660 TI, we are talking 10% faster than 680MX. Since 680MX runs at 720MHz, to reach that 7700 score we need 830MHz on the GTX 780M which is totally plausible with the new GPU Boost.


    EDIT: Sorry if my numbers bore you people.

    I didn`t get that one :(
     
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    SM is basically just the successor the current EM.

    Depends on drivers. I get about 6500 stock 680m and 7200 with overclock at stock voltages. But yeah either way, you need overclock to reach 660TI currently.
     
  16. failwheeldrive

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    Those numbers look pretty good, can't wait to see what overclocked performance is like. I'm assuming the 780m will be 100w?
     
  17. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    You get 6500 (graphic score) without overclock? o_O

    Most likely undervolted 1536 core GPU with GPU Boost to reach high clocks, all within 100W. Apparantly all 700M cards are undervolted :D
     
  18. sponge_gto

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    Top-end Clevo's can use two 300W bricks together, remember? :D
     
  19. jaug1337

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    Interesting things;

    just my 2 cents, don't get W8, it delivers lower benchmark scores contrary to W7.. check the Alienware threads :p

    .. but hey lets see, maybe the new generation will prove me wrong :D
     
  20. V10Ace

    V10Ace Notebook Consultant

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    This new 780M looks promising. I can't wait to see some true benchmark scores and see how much tighter the performance gap is between desktop and mobile gpus.
     
  21. J.Dre

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    I'm as curious about the performance gain as I am about the power consumption. Imagine another hour of battery life (or more), that would be nice. Hopefully with Haswell and the 780M we will get at least that!

    Been a lot of talk about Q2 releases, which means there is another month left. We should see releases within 30 days! :D :D
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Well we have the date for haswell.
     
  23. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    More news. This is really exiting :)

    GTX 780M plus i7-4700MQ have been tested on the upcoming Alienware M17xR5 prototype.

    3DMark11: P7650
    3DMark11 OCed: P8500

    Comparison:
    3DMark11 680M: P6141 (+25%)
    3DMark11 680MX + desktop CPU: P7105 (+8%)

    Sick performance confirmed. Higher clocks than 680MX confirmed (GPU Boost). Future looks bright :D

    Source: Benyouhui
     
  24. HaloGod2012

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    an overclocked 680m can hit over 8000 easy in 3dmark, but im assuming the 780m hasnt been over volted in that benchmark so we havent seen what it can really do
     
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    Looks like Nvidia is going all out on the 700 series to destroy AMD. lol
     
  26. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    God knows how overvolting will work on the 780M. Since it is undervolted from 600M series, who knows if you can overvolt twice (overvolt, 600 voltage, overvolt again possible?). Then we have the new GPU Boost which will interfere with overclocking since we now have a system that tries to apply higher clocks than the usual Base clock - Turbo clock.
     
  27. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    OC & OV will be no problem...but better add some Watts to your PSU and mod your cooling...@ Clevo P570WMx user, your system runs the GTX780M out of the box without a BIOS update. ;)
     
  28. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    They can? What is the purpose with doing that? :)

    I agree, with overvolting the 780M a bigger PSU is probably a must :)
     
  29. kolias

    kolias Notebook Evangelist

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    Nice scores,and nice finding man... :)
     
  30. kolias

    kolias Notebook Evangelist

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    Hey "Prema-shop"can you bring me one?pleaseeeeee :D
     
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    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    prema-shop all inclusive package: 780m plus heatsink plus modded bios with HM/EM compatibility plus OV/OC vbios :D

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  32. sponge_gto

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    Take P570WM for instance, 130W CPU + 200W GPU = 330 W without OC. Hence the need for 2 PSU's..

    Apparently cloudie hasn't been playing around with Clevo configuration pages :D
     
  33. Meaker@Sager

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    Without OC, also without screen, or speakers or anything else lol.
     
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    I cant wait to see if we can get the 780m working in the m17x R4, it should be easy if dell offers the 780m in a future chassis
     
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    Great information, Cloud. Can't wait for the M17x R5.
     
  36. Cloudfire

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    Its almost crazy how close I was with my earlier estimations (and the chart posted a while ago) :)



     
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    We need seller to buy these on release. Dell direct will charge a fortune!

    Sent from my Nexus 4
     
  38. Cloudfire

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    LOL didn`t Dell charge $150 more than Clevo on 680M inside their systems earlier? :p
     
  39. Kevin

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    So are we thinking 680MX with GPU Boost 2.0, or something beefier? Man I wish a GPU-Z screenshot would pop up.
     
  40. J.Dre

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    Doesn't matter: it seems to be significantly better than most of us hoped for. That's what matters. :D
     
  41. ryzeki

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    Yeah, it's a 680mx with new turbo boost. Us 680m users saw from the beginning the huge OC potential from our GPU, so I imagine 680mx had such a massive headroom too.
     
  42. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    I think Dell was selling 680m for ~700 bucks (just the card), I guess this should be similar in price?
     
  43. RyanBayer

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    the better question how much will it cost when it comes in a computer. For example, how much more money do you think it will cost over the 680m?

    Thanks,
    Ryan
     
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    Gpuz screenshot? Would be nice to see some specs of both this and AMD's offering by now :D
     
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    Probably same price point as the 680m since they 680m will quickly be phased out in favor of the 780m.
     
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    If the 780M releases in June with the new models and runs as cool as the 680M does with those boosted clocks (and at the same price point), then I guess it's a good thing I've not gotten a P370EM yet. :p

    But still, it'd be nice if this was really true. If so then June isn't a bad idea; especially with that extra mSata slot and the possibility of better cooling. I mean come on Clevo why you make bade PxxxEM cooling D=
     
  47. Cloudfire

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    GPU Boost didn`t exist until late February this year. But yeah, 680MX seemed like a perfect candidate for a while now.
     
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    It's about time I had something new to play with.....
     
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    Guys, I think Meaker is rubbing his hands together rapidly with THAT gleam in his eyes again. And he actually KNOWS what's coming.
     
  50. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    and he is waiting for his +12k pgpu 3dmark11 bench on 780m, echoing "THIS IS SINGLE GPU!!!" all the way :D
     
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