New nvidia card 9650m GS

Finally something new to gasp for!

http://www.slashgear.com/acer-aspire-gemstone-blue-finally-we-get-to-the-good-stuff-1210720.php

I wonder if this card will be the replacement for 8600m gt?
18.4" makes me wonder though..

 

Thats weird.

96 50m GS

Is that just a fancy way of flip flopping our brains to say 8600mGT?

 

Could be. The 9500M (can't remember if it's GS or GT) has the exact same specs as the 8600M GT (except smaller process and probably less heat). Considering the 8-series didn't have an 8500 for laptops, this could be the 8600 GT's successor in performance, with the 9500 being the 8600 GS's successor.

Reading the article, it almost indicates that $700 would buy a 16-inch laptop with the 9650M GS and Blu-Ray. I'm guessing they were a bit sloppy with their wording and meant the $900 (or possibly a bit higher) bought that and that Blu-Ray was an option (but "definitely" available). $700 seems too low for that, even with a low-end processor.

 

You know, I'm getting really sick of this naming crap from nVidia.

At least ATI shifted their names around to be...you know...clear, and concise. nVidia just seems hellbent on obfuscating things as much as possible while shamelessly recycling old technology. I mean we don't even have a 9600M yet, what the hell is this 9650M crap?

 

nVidia is fine. First number is always series, second is performance, and third is a modifier (usually die shrink). Intel's the worst one, releasing 2 processors with the exact same model and numbers. And how many platforms were named Centrino Duo?

 

What I'm wondering is when they will replace the 8600m gt.
It feels the timing for buying a notebook right now, with a 1 year old 8600m, isn't optimal.

 

There's never an optimal time to buy a laptop.

 

You are right.

But I just want a new graphics card in my 14-15" future notebook, and not that ol' 8600m. I'm mean 9500m GS is just a renaming of that card!
Add a matte screen to that too, and I'm happy.

 

There are a lot of 9 Series cards we don't know about yet, like the 9400:

http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-4254-view-GeForce-9400-G98.html
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?p=1135084

 

Specifications
Stream Processors 32
Core Clock (MHz) 625
Shader Clock (MHz) 1250
Memory Clock (MHz) 800
Maximum Memory 512MB
Memory Interface 128-bit

I thought the nVidia 9600 GT had a 256 bit Interface?!


/source: http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_9650M_gs.html
found on http://www.nvidia.com/object/wtb_notebooks.html#nineSeries

 

Sounds like my thoughts were right:

Specs are the exact same as the 8700M-GT:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_8700m.html

 

Now we just have to ask "why". I don't think nVidia's ever released so many new GPUs in a new series that have the exact same specs as an older series. They usually name die shrink variants with a "50" appended to the number.

 

at least we get a lot to choose from ;D

 

its quite simpel.. smaller chips, making alot less heat but with the same performance.

Just as intels Penryn CPU.

 

Seems like 8700M GT to me... Probably just shrinked.

They could've at least added more shaders. Or put in a higher memory bandwidth -- the Acers have a very high res screen after all, shame if it couldn't be properly utilized in games.

 

i guess we can clock em better since they generate less heat. The 8600 GT can get really hot!

 

well there killing ATI still, even with their old parts, makes sense just to rebrand them and create new high end.

Nvidia has alot of time to work on the next series after this one then i guess.

 

I have to disagree, with the HD3000 series already shipping with the new Puma platform and being introduced to the Montevina platform for the launch date analysts predict ATi taking back the lead in the mobile sector. You have to remember they held this lead until the 8600 series came along so nvidia wasn't exactly killing them and certainly aren't now. Not to mention nvidia hasn't even announced their full 9-series so nobody knows if they will be ontime for the summer, or if the 9600GT (or 9650GT now?) will be 256-bit which I seriously hope it will be.

 

analysts can analyze all they want, but basing your info on something that hasnt happened yet is not quite reliable

 

So is it worth going for the ASUS M51Sn or waiting it out for the Acer Aspire 6920G? And price does matter in this choice.

 

What about basing info on insider info and RTM samples?

 

I only hope that it's MXM type 2 =S, that way, there's a chance of getting it in 5920g

 

Had my hopes up for awhile after reading about the 9600M GS/9650M GS on Fudzilla until seeing the specs of it. It's probably going to be like how the 8600M GS has just half the stream processors of the 8600M GT.

 

Now we need a MXM 2 G94 9650M GT

 

AAAAH

why do I keep hearing SOOOO MANY THINGS about 9XXX cards even though ZERO ZIP ZAP NOTHING not even for desktop has been released yet

 

Because the 9300m GS is out, the 9500m GS is out, and the 9600 GT is out.

 

A 9600m gt with the specs of a 8800m gts would be a very nice thing. since the 9600gt(desktop) have near the same specs than the 8800m gts, but with smaller clocks.
I'm just rumoring, based on the desktop 9600 gt and the specs 9650gs

 

WOW I guess I missed the ENTIRE launch of those... eeh... sorry

 

Dunno if you noticed, but this "new" Geforce 9650m GS has the VERY SAME specs as the "old" Geforce 8700m GT.

 

Yes it has been noticed (by Chaz ^^, if you would look at page 2 ;-P)
but, do you think it will go into 15.4" gaming notebooks, since it has lower power consumption and heat (not sure, but should be due to die shrink)
I am looking at the momenht (yes, still) and am not sure if i will be ok with an 8600GT/9500GS or rather go one step up for the 8700M GT/9650M GS... don't have enough money for the 8800gts/gtx, so just wondering (there is not bestbuy near my location, before somebody comes up suggesting me the gateway P6xxxxx, would love to have it though ; /)

 

Well, the 8700M GT was never found in a notebook smaller than a 17", which is weird, because Alienware & Sager managed to fit a 8800M into a 15.4".

 

I've never seen a Geforce 8800m GTS or GTX in ANYTHING smaller than a 17" notebook! However if u saw one, could u please post the link for it?

About the 9650m going into 15" laptops... well mate, it's quite possible. Cause it's made in a new and smaller process, thus working with less heat... perhaps it won't even need a cooler as the 8700m did (that was actually the main reason why it's never been seen in a 15" lappy: because of the lack of space for a proper cooling solution).

The 8600m GT on the other hand, doesn't actually requires any cooler, as it is quite similar to the geforce 8600 GT for desktop but running in a lower frequency to avoid overheating.

 

the alienware laptop has an 8800m in a 15" laptop.. here's the link..
http://www.alienware.com/product_de...51M15X-AI1&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT&source=ECH0027

 

And the AW has 8700m gt as an option too

 

Yes, I do think it MAY be a mxm type 2, can't be sure as Acer didn't include 9650m GS as an option in the 16" version, if it was included, then hell yeah it's gonna be MXM 2.

We'll see if Asus would kindly supply better mxm cards for their C90S. (I don't know... maybe a 9650m GT instead of GS?) At this point, I'm only hoping for a real benchmark and news on these newer mobile GPUs.

 

Indeed it would be nice. One little thing - the 9600 GT performs similar to the 8800 GTS because it has higher clocks. It has fewer shaders, but uses the higher clock frequencies to make up the difference.

Noodle - With regard to the 8800m in a 15" chassis: there are currently two. The Alienware m15x has an 8800m GTX stuffed into it, but apparently has had some overheating issues. Clevo recently showcased its new M860TU. It's a new 15" design also featuring the 8800m GTX. Let's hope they have better luck with it than AW.

 

Yeah it keeps up with the 3870. The 9600GT SLI is the best thing on the market for now, it eats the 8800GTX alive except in Crysis due to increased memory bandwidth

 

And what do you base your "killing ATi" on since they actually lost mobility sales to AMD , and in this segment, the GF8700 doesn't 'kill' the HD2600XT, so that statement has no relevance, nor does it justify calling the GF8700 refresh a GF9600 let alone 9650.

People complained about the HD3K renaming AMD did, but really it had alot more feature differences to warrant that renaming than this does. I think it's more related to the marketing feedback they got from the GF9600GT desktop sales in that people bought more only because itwas a higher number.

 

Yeah the GF9600GT has half the SPUs and TMUs although a similar render backend to the GTS with 16 ROPs, it's the higher clocks and the large ROP count that help keep it near it's bigger bbrothers.

 

Specs from ZDNet

 

maybe those are true, but there is a guy who writes reviews that are full of BS, like the review named : alienware m9750 VS my Quadcore rig, rofl its full of it

 

Yea its not one I check often but a google search put hooked me up with more info about the 9M series.

My question is what MXM will the 9650 and the others be? II? III? Thats the big question right now.

 

Great news 8920g + 8600m GT-acer 5920g perfectly competitable whit 9650m GS, so we can upgrage...........

 

Lucky.... I was hoping dell would do that with mine....

 

Source plz k thx

Anyway, even if it is compatible, where can we get the 9650m GS, I'm a bit desperate here =(

 

Source http://www.siscom.bg/?com=products&op=show&id=386

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/181407/acer-aspire-8920g.html

http://siscom-bg.com/?com=products&op=show&id=376

http://www.metaleks.lv/cenas/3/26482_acer_acer_as8920g_18_4_t5750_320b_brc_gf8600.php

 

Wow, the gemstone has an 8ms screen, cool.
We're mostly stuck with 25-30ms response time...

 

Due to production times for chips and that the 8000 series chips sold very well (they ran out, basically), they have moved on to production of 9000 series chips. They simply are not making 8000 series stuff anymore. That's the real reason for the name changes. I think there should be another way of naming the cards, but NVidia has chosen a way to get $$$ from it.

 

I found this notebook on newegg that has the new 9650 GT. I was like, ***, is that a typo, 9650 GT, since when??? Anyway, here is the Asus laptop that has the card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220412