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    News Rumor: NVIDIA RTX 3080, 3070, 3060 Mobile Specifications Detailed

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by yosv211, Dec 30, 2020.

  1. yosv211

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    Apparently, specifications for NVIDIA's upcoming RTX 30-series mobile solutions have been made public. According to Videocardz via Notebookcheck, NVIDIA will introduce three mobile versions of their RTX 30-series graphics cards in the form of the RTX 3080, RTX 3070 and RTX 3060. Like past NVIDIA mobile solutions, these won't directly correspond, hardware-wise, to their desktop counterparts; NVIDIA has the habit of downgrading their mobile solutions' chips compared to their desktop counterparts. According to the leaked specifications, this means the mobile RTX 3080 will maker use of the company's GA-104 chip, instead of the GA-102 silicon found on desktop versions of the card.

    The mobile RTX 3080 should thus feature a total of 6,144 CUDA cores, as present in the fully-enabled GA-104 chip (compare that to the 5,888 CUDA cores available on the desktop RTX 3070, and the 8,704 CUDA cores available on the RTX 3080). These CUDA cores would be clocked at up to 1.7 GHz. The memory bus should also see a cut down to 256-bit, which would allow NVIDIA to distribute as many as 4 versions of the RTX 3080 mobile: Max-Q (TGP 80-90 W), Max-P (TGP 115-150 W), with either 8 GB or 16 GB of GDDR6 memory. The RTX 3070 mobile keeps the GA-104 chip, 256-bit bus and GDDR6 memory subsystem (apparently with only 8 GB memory pool available), but further cuts down CUDA cores to 5,120 (Max-Q TGP 80-90 W, Max-P TGP 115-150 W). Finally, the RTX 3060 mobile should make use of the GA106 chip, set up with 3,072 available CUDA cores and a 192-bit memory bus across its 6 GB of GDDR6 VRAM pool (Max-Q TGP 60-70 W), Max-P (TGP 80-115 W). Expect these specs to be confirmed (or not) come January 12th.
     
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    Well a RTX 3080 with 16Gb MAX-P isn't that bad for an upgrade from a GTX 1080.
     
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    I like spaghetti with meatballs sauce
     
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    Except this mobile “3080” is nothing like the desktop 3080. Different chip, different memory, different TDP. Putting 3080 in any part of that name is a disgrace considering that the actual 3080 will be a good 40-50% faster. And you just know that they will charge out the wazoo for this gimped mobile “3080”.
     
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    3080M = 3070
    3070M = 3060Ti
    3060M = 3050
     
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    Aaaand we’re back to Kepler mobile days
     
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    Its not surprising that the mobile versions are gimped due to the architecture being very power hungry. The main question i wanna know is how much performance difference will the mobile RTX 30 series have over the current RTX 20 series? Also it seems like the GTX 1660ti, GTX 1650 and GTX1650ti are here to stay for another year.
     
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    the 3080 is rated at 320w, kinda hard to fit that into a 150w power envelope for maybe Nvidia doesn't have enough. the 3070 is rated at 220w, very easy going from 220w to 150w and easier to make the 3070 chips.
     
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    Only if there is a 200W version of the 3080M then that one would perform similar to the 3070. The 3070 is a 220W TDP video card, at 150-115W I'd expect the 3070 be a 10-20% faster than the 3080M
     
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    Realistic performance expectations:
    3080M = 2080 Super
    3070M = 2070 Super
    3060M = 2060 Super


    We will not be seeing ampere mobile be anywhere near equitable to ampere desktop.
     
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    But the price for the 3080M will be close to the $1500 RTX 3090 (not kidding)
     
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    although its not a great thing they are calling a mobile 3080 a 3080....faster than 2080ti in a laptop is impressive and i see no good reason to complain..60 percent boost possibly over 2080...it has more cores and will handle dlss 2.0 and raytracing better.

    also i might start saving for a 3080 laptop as the jump from 1060 is enough to justify it and im sure the 3080 will hold up for the entire ps5 xbox sx generations ports. and obviously ill be buying the 16gb version at 150w because its obvious newer gen games will require more vram than 8gb.

    also I feel sorry for the middle class people that jumped on a 2080 laptop going from 1070-1080..paying 3000 for something to run 4k ends up being a waste....however if those said people are rocking 1080p-1440p they will be fine for quite some time.. and too add it looks like the 3080 is the sweetspot this time around vs 2070/1070
     
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    It is what it is, because The Law of Physics says so. Laptops probably won't catch back up to running full desktop variants until 5nm Hopper.

    I have no real reason to ditch my current laptop anyway, not while 1080p with high framerates is still the best way to game and the 200W RTX 2080 is more than killing this resolution.

    The only place I'm lacking is in not having a multithreaded CPU, I'm hoping to nab a used 9900K on the cheap.
     
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    Yeah heck my 1060 is killing 1080p with my backlog and some new games...and since i dont mind 60fps i think im going to pass on the 3080 and wait for hopper....unless new console gen games become insanely demanding i really cant justify spending 6 months of savings from a pension just so i can play a port...i really hope crysis 4 comes out and with it a slew of optimised graphically from the ground up games for pc
     
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    I think I read that they are coming out with a 3050 series mobile so that's an option for more budget minded casual moderate settings gamers. I assume that dlss will make gaming at higher resolutions even more within reach for the lower level cards at appropriate settings of course. Impressed with the tongfang lower cost 2060 gateway at this point(minus the very loud fans with top games), in the future I could see budget hopper etc laptops approaching consoles if you take into account the included monitor etc etc with laptops. Kinda hard to believe that consoles would ever get below the $500 mark again who knows.
     
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    I'm still holding out for one of our favorite manufacturers to push out 3000-series MXM modules... But I'm not holding my breath.
     
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    I love MXM too having had a few of them, so convenient and consumer oriented but I think Dell's abandonment of it for their own proprietary DGFF "value added" standard means the end for it. Even DGFF I've heard is phased out now. HP also another major player that abandoned it. Maybe the odd Aetina version out there going forward but then you have to wait until they filter down into consumer level used to get a decent price. Soldered badness from now on I think.
     
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    When do we expect these to land in the Alienware 51m laptop? Many companies are releasing this month
     
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    @HaloGod2012 I'd be willing to bet Dell swaps over to another proprietary form factor, but with the same electrical spec.
    Can't have the old stuff making a dent in the new stuff, and every model needs it's own parts /s
     
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    That seems like a horrible approach even when old stuff makes a dent in the sales of new stuff. Won't the R&D costs alone for new stuff end up costing more than just letting people upgrade their old systems? Selling upgrades can still be profitable.
     
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    A minor change in design won't cost a fortune. They will lose more if you don't visit their store :D
     
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