Nooooo to Nvidia!!!

Man when are the new Ati cards coming out lol no way i want to buy a laptop with Nvidia inside

 

Ok... So Don't

 

Mobility 4850 /x2 and 4870/x2 are on their way, should be mid september.

 

Thank god , I've always like Nvidia but with such an expensive purchase would rather not risk it.

 

I know what you mean.
For example, the upgrade to a 9800M GTX SLI is 1200$ ..
For that money, pfff, you can actually get a GOOD GAMING laptop.

 

ATI's churning out some decent stuff, eh?

 

4870x2 is basically the King of graphics cards. (desktop version at least)

 

Yeah! Decent is the right word.

 

No, decent is an understatement

 

What's with all the hate with Nvidia?

 

Maybe you haven't heard about the defect?

If you have, then that's the point of the hate. Otherwise, you'll find it everywhere else you look.

 

I don't hate Nvidia

 

That's a generalization. Not all Nvidia gpu's are defective. Mine isn't.

Long live Nvidia. =)

 

I said "the" defect. That's pretty specific, I think we all know I was talking about the G84-86 cores and whatever else could be possibly defected.

And "possibly" is bad enough.

 

Man, I have been out of touch! Well, if my laptop was affected, I have flashed the BIOS as the recommended (although I didn't know there was a potential problem at the time), so I think I'm good. :twitcy:

I still like nVidia, but go ATI if you can push them!

 

Here is a link http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Nvidia-GPU-failure,6248.html I guess it has to do with the type or way they are soldering new gpu's. I just don't want to risk it seeing how Nvidia wont even fess up to what the real problem is and i hear its a nightmare to get the laptops fixed or replaced even with warranty.The Ati 4870's should be just as fast as the 9800gtx so im just waiting for them to be released

 

I would switch to ATi if that "just as fast" would become "faster than".

<3 ATi though, <3 Flipper on Gamecube, Hollywood on Wii and Xenos on XBOX360.

 

Yea would love if they were faster but at the same time ill take "just as fast" insted of "Bahhh laptop died cause of these stupid nvidia gpu's!!!! "

 

I love it when people don't actually bother to read past the headline.

 

Yea and they are still having problems so Nvidia is not being truthful.

 

ati just doesnt have the power nvidia does...

and the naming schemes they use are confusing

 

I think the hate stems from the fact that NVidia has dominated the notebook gaming GPU market for a while. Now that ATi is finally starting to strike back along with defect issues with NVidia mobile GPUs, the "true" consumer in some members is starting to come out.

 

I used to hate Ati and only bought Nvidia not anymore .

 

I haven't read the article on why Nvidia's chips are defective but I have a huge suspicion it's because alot of people are overclocking and maybe that's why they have alot of reports of gpus prematurely dying out and Nvidia doesn't know what to make of it because it's hard to prove the chips are malfunctioning because of overclocking. So they can see the effects of the overclocking and just try to explain it from there, because they can't just come out and say "oh our chips are dying out early because people overclock it beyond what it was meant to be capable of to last it's full life cycle." without having proof that overclocking was doing it.

 

I really haven't heard from actual people of there Nvidia GPU's failing.

 

I went with an ATI on my previous notebook because I'd had some rather annoying issues with the graphics card in my desktop. It didn't render things properly - and sometimes not at all - when it came to very simple 3D games (we're talking like Roller Coaster Tycoon 3 simple) and it lagged like crazy. I had great experiences with the ATI in the previous notebook, so I saw no reason to switch back over to Nvidia. This matter of defects in Nvidia cards is news to me, though. Guess I should stop living under a rock...

 

The current generation ATI cards performed much better than nVidia had expected, and actually resulted in price cuts for some nVidia cards to better compete with the ATI rivals.

As far as the naming schemes, nVidia's naming schemes are also confusing - neither allow a non-technical person to tell much by looking at just the names of these cards.

Overclocking is something that effects both nVidia and ATI. Since it is not brand-specific, it is statistically irrelevant.

Personal experience in something of this magnitude is also irrelevant, however, the lack of "My GPU Just Failed" threads is quite telling. However, if the problem is indeed what the rumors say it is, then this problem only effects cards in the longterm, and most, if any, of the failures will occur a while down the road.

The bottom line is that fearing nVidia cards because of this setback is irrational. Any new card you buy will have the new solder bump. It is great that ATI picked up their game and is releasing great video cards - competition is always a plus to the market.

 

I really believe in healthy competition to drive down prices.

If ATI got a strong lead in the high end gaming notebook market we might see notebooks being more competitively priced. Who knows, mabe a gaming notebook for $800 with a MR HD 4850, or stand alone MXM cards for $300 or so, that would sure be nice..

This is like what Intel is doing, they know they have no competition in the CPU market so they keep thier prices high, they could easily cut prices in half and still make a massive profit but they don't because there is no competition.
Nvidia has been doing this for awhile with thier desktop cards, like recently after the release of the HD 4800 series they cut the prices of the GTX 200 series cards in half. Mabe they will do this for notebook GPU's as well if ATI gives them a reason to.

 

Geez, what this all comes down to is backing up the underdog. We all love to do it and despite any protests.

Despite the news on 'The Defect' I hardly know many people who have had problems with their NVidia GPUs. It seems those who have had them are in a very small minority and that this problem is overly-exaggerated.

I admire the fact that NVidia actually have the guts to say they messed up, if they really have to that extent. Lots of companies would rather hide things and lie to their customers.

Basically, I guess I wish people wouldn't hide behind blown-over stories and just admit their bias.

 

Okay I just read the article and it's all theory and speculation on the part of the reporters. They and they're sources are jumping to conclusions as to what the defect is, because even nvidia isn't saying what it is.

So it supports my theory that Nvidia is getting a lot of reports that their cards are malfunctioning prematurley, and that maybe they know that it's because many users overclock but they can't prove it, so that's why they don't disclose what the defect is until they come up with smoking gun proof.

And as far as Ati cards also being overclocked I don't think they have enough of the market to have the spot light on them even if they had alot of reports themselves of cards failing prematurely.

So even if this story is being pushed and spinned to have a more competitive video card industry to make the consumers winners, it's still not right to slander or give a bad name to an honest entity. I just hope I'm right because I have an Nvidia product.

 

for that money, you can get a GREAT GAMING desktop.