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    Notebook cant handle games "PS3"?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by TwiztOG43, Aug 10, 2007.

  1. TwiztOG43

    TwiztOG43 Notebook Evangelist

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    well now my notebook really cant handle the latest games now, and am looking for an alternative. i have played the 360 for a few months at my cousin's house but i did not really like it because to me it just seems really limited on what it can do, but i mean yes there is tons of games for the 360 but the ps3 just needs time because most of all they are working with blu-ray, but i do like the ps3 and right now seems like a good time to buy because of the 100 dollar price drop of the 60gig version. but i was wondering, for those people who live in southern cali, how much is a ps3 with tax? 499+tax= ???? could care less about the games right now i could just download demos, and wait for warhawk,mgs4, and gta iv,gt5
     
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    um i dont see the logic in this? you could care less for games and just download demos? so by the time you do ever buy a real game, your ps3 will be worth half the price and brand new might be less than $400. honestly if you are not going to buy games with it then why throw away all that money? and wat was so limiting about the 360?
     
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    Yeah, tell us... What was so limiting about the 360?

    It has a zillion times better online system and the graphics are better than the PS3, plus you can use your 360 as a Windows Media Center Extender...

    We're waiting...
     
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    Wow, it barely took two replies and there's already another console war starting. Granted this thread is dumb enough: Buy a PS3 later when the games you want to play are actually out; Don't waste money buying it early for demos. You'll regret it.
     
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    Love my Xbox 360, just waiting patiently for it to break "Red Ring of Death"!!!!!!!!!. Hope it doesn't though ;)
     
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    Woah guys calm down, an opinion is just that, an opinion.

    I you really want to get a PS3 for those games, just wait for them to come out. By that time there may be another 50 or 100 dollar price drop.
     
  7. tymonc

    tymonc Notebook Consultant

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    Well it seems that your just looking to game and if you want to do that and get a new notebook, than I'd just do that instead of buying a PS3 or anything...If you are going to buy a PS3 than just wait until the games that you want to play are out and then go buy one. I don't really know what you mean my the 360 being limited, but you are entitled to your opinion. :rolleyes:
     
  8. moocow21

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    I'll try to guess at what he's getting at. (this is coming from someone who owns 360 & not PS3)

    First, the PS3 can use a lot of different hard drives, not just those by Sony. With 360 your only options are $100 for 20 gb or $180 for 120gb.

    Also, I'll use Unreal Tournament 3 as a case example. The PS3 can use a mouse and keyboard - another option not available on 360. Also, and by far most importantly, as an open platform Epic is making it so user created PC content can make it's way to PS3 (mods). This isn't possible on 360 right now becuase MS keeps such a tight hold on their Marketplace and everything that goes on it.

    Now I'm not saying PS3>360, because I own a 360 only and I'm perfectly satisfied with it. But as a 360 owner, I can definately see how it's limited compared to PS3. As for the OP, if you want a PS3 now go for it, but only if you're sure it has the games you want to play.
     
  9. Fittersman

    Fittersman Wanna trade?

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    lol, im surprized nobody picked at this lazy part, just get a calculator? lets say tax in cali is 13%. now go 499*1.13 :)
     
  10. TH3D4RKKN!GH7

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    PS3 is more of an entertainment system if anything thats what I use mine for the most. I'm waiting for Uncharted, Ratchet, GT5 games that I know will be AAA and look better than anything else I've seen to date (besides Crysis). 360 does have a much better selection of demos though LOL I just got finished playing Stranglehold on my 360.
     
  11. AppendixMan

    AppendixMan Notebook Consultant

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    Is it just me or are consoles trying too hard to become PC's? (Apart from the Wii of course :))
     
  12. Sneaky_Chopsticks

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    What do you mean the graphics are better than the PS3? It's the otherway around in my opinion.

    To be modest..->(They're both about equal, you can barely tell the difference.)
     
  13. TH3D4RKKN!GH7

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    Not really that close if you take a look at GT5 Prologue or Uncharted Drake's Fortune.
     
  14. illmatic2609

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    Better online system....that you need to pay for annually. These days, most console gamers and PC gamers play multiplayer and online games.

    The PS3's online is free and soon Sony will be releasing Home, which looks really good. With the PS3, the online experience depends on the game you are playing. For example, Resistance Fall of Man has some of the best multiplayer ever in a console game imo. The system for that game is also very well organized. Of course, with the pros, I must also talk about the cons. I am not a fanboy. Therefore, yes, XBL is much more consistent. However, at the same time, it's not $60 better A YEAR.

    Onto the graphics, no, the PS3 is much newer and the technology present inside of it is very hard to work with right now. I don't think that or believe that....the game developers said it themselves. As time goes on, it will no doubt be easier to develop games for it and you will see what the PS3 really has to offer. Again, must talk pros and cons. Madden runs 60FPS on the 360 while only 30FPS on the PS3. That is the only different between games that are on both of the consoles. Graphically, there isn't much difference. If anything, the PS3 versions LOOK much better.

    Just look at games like Killzone 2, Uncharted, Lair, Metal Gear Solid 4, Little Big Planet, Gran Turismo 5. They all look amazing and most of them look better than ANY game on the xbox 360 except maybe Gears of War. Halo doesn't stand a chance graphically to any of these games.
     
  15. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    You guys need to follow the forum rules and NOT insult every one just because you say you can.

    Have a nice day.
     
  16. Metamorphical

    Metamorphical Good computer user

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    And please knock it off with the personal attack and insults. Keep this thread ontopic on it will be closed.
     
  17. Dimitri_Stenchkov

    Dimitri_Stenchkov Notebook Guru

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    i bored and the truths gotta be said illmatic lol
     
  18. Dimitri_Stenchkov

    Dimitri_Stenchkov Notebook Guru

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    im sorryy people!!! and i didnt insult nobody
     
  19. Dimitri_Stenchkov

    Dimitri_Stenchkov Notebook Guru

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    Jus wanna apologise again people..sorry sorry sorry......war changes people .:cry:
     
  20. Wu Jen

    Wu Jen Some old nobody

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    So does Alcohol....nuff said.
     
  21. Dimitri_Stenchkov

    Dimitri_Stenchkov Notebook Guru

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    lol.. becareful wu jen like i said war changes people..lol
     
  22. eyepwnuall

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    Get PS3 cause you can put Linux on it and unlock a world of possibilities! I saw a guy boot Windows XP on his PS3 from virtual box in linux!!!
     
  23. TwiztOG43

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    well i went the same way with the ps2. but i mean right now there arent that many games except warhawk i think comes out 8/28th. but i know i dont want the xbox 360 cause of how limiting it is. i want something that would play more than just games, so i plan on installing linux on it, i also might use it as an entertainment center and make use of the hard drive, and if i need to just upgrade to a regular notebook hard dive later. with the xbox its just a game console. also i have a psp so i plan on taking advantage of that. so basically im getting the ps3 for all the features and the games, which will be a little bit later but thats ok, thats how i got the ps2 with few games, but doesn't have allot of the features the ps3 does. also the ps3 has blu-ray so games and movies will look better and the games have have more unlimited possibilities compared to the xbox version, and plus you have to buy that hd-dvd thing just to watch hd-dvds, the ps3 has blu-ray built in.

    oh yeah and the person who said that has online better and better graphics has got to be crazy. better graphics i dont think so, gt5, formula one championship edition. plus for allot of you people who play pc games do you pay online fees to play, no, so why would i want to pay every time. the only thing i want to pay for is the console or (computer to play it) and the game itself.
     
  24. TwiztOG43

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    yeah i saw that a while ago, but it was really really slow. couldn't you just get LPX? looks like windows. i think i might just go with yellow dog. but wait, what linux boots the quickest? or what is the average time?
     
  25. TwiztOG43

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    well doing some research around the net and walmart.com has the lowest price after tax and shipping, also they include a Free blu-ray remote. so the total is 512.79
     
  26. SymphonyX

    SymphonyX Notebook Evangelist

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    This is obviously an anti-Xbox 360 rant in disguise.

    The latest notebooks can come up with graphics as good as the Xbox 360 and PS3. FYI, when it comes to PC graphics, they pwn the PS3 and Xbox 360. I've seen DIRT on a dual 8800GTX setup on a 30" Dell monitor at UXGA (1920x1200) resolution. Motorstorm for the PS3 and DIRT for the Xbox 360 is clearly NOT a match. I saw this in a PC expo the other week.

    When the Geforce 9600M GT comes out, you'll be seeing 14" notebooks thrashing PS3 and Xbox 360 graphics. The Geforce 8600M GT can actually already match most of the Xbox 360 and PS3 games in terms of graphics.

    And oh, my Xbox 360 broke recently. But I'll still buy another one since I already spent a bundle on games and accessories alone. And the new Xbox 360 Premiums will have HDMI!!! And not to mention it's $50 cheaper. I'll probably another one by the end of this year.
     
  27. AppendixMan

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    This happens every time "next generation" consoles come out and in a couple of years cheap low/mid-range PC's dominate these so called superior gaming machines.

    But back on topic if you want to buy a PS3 then go for it, I'm not going to try and stop you.
     
  28. TwiztOG43

    TwiztOG43 Notebook Evangelist

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    so what happened to your xbox? so far i have heard lots of hardware problems with the xbox360, havent really heard anything bout the ps3. but xbox360 rant? i have played the xbox360 for two months when i stayed at my cousins place, its nice and all but i want it to do more than just playing games. plus all that notebook stuff you just said, that would be more expensive than a ps3 or any console, wouldn't it?
     
  29. DrewN

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    Umm, no it isn't. OP just explained he wanted to put Linux on his PS3. Sorry, but you can't do that on a 360. :p
     
  30. TwiztOG43

    TwiztOG43 Notebook Evangelist

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    i was just going to do that with the original xbox but thats all you can do because there arent any new games for it, and its a mod, for the ps3 sony actually allows you to do that
     
  31. Mippoose

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    You haven't heard much about the PS3 because the PS3 has sold about 1.5 million (slightly rounding up) systems in North America alone as of July 23, 2007, while the Xbox 360 has sold 5.4 million systems in North America alone as of May 18, 2007.

    http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3159628
    http://www.gamespot.com/news/6175522.html?tag=latestnews;title;0

    So in my opinion, not as much has been heard about the PS3 because OVER 3x as many people own a 360 over/or with a PS3.

    That increases the variable for hearing about failure alot.

    Also, on top of this, myself along with most, if not all my friends agree that the game line-up for the xbox 360 treads all over the PS3.

    None of us owning either system would have to agree that our next console will in fact be a 360 just based on games.

    And 60$ a year for Xbox live is nothing.
    NOTHIN!

    There are people who pay more than that a year for satellite radio, World Of Warcraft, Everquest 2, Ultima Online, and even for people to cut their grass.

    People who pay for WoW pay 180$ a year or something like that to play a single game.

    I doubt 60$ a year for being able to play most your games online should be much of a turn off.
     
  32. moocow21

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    $50 a year (what I pay for live) isn't much, but that doesn't mean it's not a rip off. Don't get me wrong, I love live & have been subscribed for 3 years now, but I don't really understand what we're paying for. The only difference between silver & gold is online play - and almost none of the servers are ever dedicated anyways. On PC online play has always been free (not talking MMOs, which I don't play because of fees) and there are dedicated servers & not unusual to see 64 player games.
     
  33. Mippoose

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    Servers that you play on for free in games like BF2 or CSS are being paid for out of somebodies pocket if they are being rented, or are being run on their own machine or server that they themselves are paying for.

    So it really isn't free in any sort of manner at all.
     
  34. SymphonyX

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    This is why I buy those 3 month prepaid cards. I still have 1 month remaining before my Xbox 360 broke. What a shame. BTW, it died because of 3RL. To me, Xbox 360 is to PS3 as the Xbox is to PS3. I didn't buy my Xbox 360 and PS2 to do things other than what they're intended to do. I bought it to play games, and games alone. And when I had my parents buy me Xbox 1, I told them it plays DVD without problems like the PS2. The DVD players at that time were just around the price of the Xbox. So I had them buy it instead of a DVD player.

    My media center of choice is an HTPC, which we have in our family room. Plays games fine too, but I don't like 1280x720 on our 40" LCD TV. Looks ugly compared to the 22" LCD monitor running it at 1680x1050.

    @ moocow21

    One of my classmates spend over $250 a year on online games like FFXI and WOW. So yeah, the Xbox 360 is still way cheaper. What did you mean by "none of the servers are ever dedicated anyways"? How could Xbox Live not be a dedicated server? I've been using Xbox Live for over a year now and the service is almost flawless. I'd rather pay for something nice than get a cheap and crappy alternative.

    @ Mippoose

    Another thing I like about PC games is that if it has an online gameplay feature, the company most likely has dedicated servers for it and you don't pay anymore. Kinda like how Guild Wars works -- one-time payment. BTW, did you notice that BF2142 is littered with present-day ads.
    BACK ON TOPIC

    I also didn't know he wanted to run Linux. Another thing, the RSX on the PS3 can't be accessed by anything else but proprietary software, which includes the games (obviously... LOL). You get to access the Cell, but not the RSX. So it's going to end up a hard task for homebrewers to run stuff on the PS3's Linux.

    If you're having money problems and you're looking for a decent media center, it's the PS3 you're looking for. The PS3 is relatively dirt cheap. I don't know why they complain about its price. A mid-range HTPC will set them back over $1000. Heck, some cellphones are more expensive than the PS3 or Xbox 360. My Nokia N95 is way more expensive than my Xbox 360 -- it's about twice as much. O_O Even the iPhone's as expensive as the PS3.
     
  35. illmatic2609

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    Most people don't have the opportunity/money to have that nice of a setup, 8800GTX SLi and that nice of a monitor. The best video card I have ever owned is easily the 8600M GT. Most of mine have been either integrated or crappy cards like the GeForce MX420. Anyway, unless the game is horribly coded for the PC/crappy port or other specs weight it down, yes the card pretty much can reach console graphics on most games. However, I don't see a 8600M GT being able to play games like Killzone 2 as easily as the PS3.

    You are definitely right about the fact that in time the 9600M GT or a card like it will easily provide better graphics/performance than console graphics...but we haven't truly seen what the PS3 can do yet.

    That's what happened with my PS2 s. All together I have had 4 PS2s. 2 of them were not fixable so I get full refund both times and just bought a new one. The third one scratched all my games so they repaired it for free and it's been working great ever since.

    Yeah, you are right. They either buy/rent it from some company that does game servers or runs their own.
     
  36. unknown555525

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    Hmm.. here's my perspective of it. I've owned 3 xbox360's and one PS3.

    So far, 2 of my xbox360s bricked on me, and M$ refused to repair them because the warranty was up on both (90 day) By the time I got a third, I had given away the other bricked ones because there was nothing I could do with em and repairing them didn't sound worth the cash to me.

    Since I got my PS3 when it was released, the xbox 360 was never played after I beat crackdown in 4 hours and got pissed off at how short the xbox360's games are.

    Even now, I'm enjoying the GT HD demo, Motorstorm, and resistence more than I ever even enjoyed any of the xbox360's games, other than mabe two, Gears, and dead rising.

    I payed for XBL for 3 months, and that made me seriously feel like I was being ripped off. THEY DONT RUN THE SERVERS, YOUR XBOX DOES!

    It's the same as running a server on your PC, why are you paying them! they sould be paying YOU!! XBL BLOWS. Atop of that, I got dropped from almost every game I joined. where as I never get dropped from anything on my pc, or playing motorstorm online.

    I also had 8 games destroyed by the xbox360, yea scratched to the point they were unplayable, and one game, oblivion, even came out of the system in two pieces. :(

    Btw, I agree that the PS3 isn't just a gaming console, and if it can be used as other things, I'll use that. Currently I watch blu ray movies on it, listen to music on my home theatre system with it, it's basically replacing the a bunch of other stuff I have, and they say soon it will be a DVR? that's crazy!

    I'm not saying go buy a PS3, but just that I've had horrible experiences with the xbox360 and I believe that M$ doesn't care about it's customers, just the cash they rack in from all this BS.
     
  37. illmatic2609

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    Amen. :cool:
     
  38. AppendixMan

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    I always assumed that Sony was the evil money hungry cooperation :confused:
     
  39. odin243

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    Why can't they both be :D
     
  40. TwiztOG43

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    i say Microsoft is more evil, sony is just electronics, ps3, Microsoft is xbox360 and all windows os office and other crap. and finally someone with both systems understands
     
  41. wdlp65

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    Sadly, just like with NCAA Football 08 and All-Pro Football 2K8, PS3 owners are stuck with an inferior version of Madden. While the game runs at 60 frames per second on Microsoft's box, Madden only clocks in at 30fps on Sony's console. The result? The gameplay isn't nearly as smooth as the 360 version and even stutters at times. And that's the reason why we're scoring the PS3 edition slightly lower.

    Enough said...
     
  42. TwiztOG43

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    thats ok, im not really fond of sports video games anyway :D they get pretty boring fast
     
  43. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    oh yeah. microsoft is was more evil. hands down. sony is almost *not evil. i would put them as only maybe slightly evil or neutral. microsoft is like demonic-monster-evil.
     
  44. AppendixMan

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    It's funny... I think of them the other way around. E.g. one buys a sony camera one would assume that you can just buy a cheap 4gb SD card and use that but no0o0o ... you need to buy a Sony memory stick duo which is 3 times more expensive and looks exactly the same! To top it off they also have a Memory Stick Pro which works with some of their devices but not others! :mad:

    MS is far less evil, in my opinion, as to date they have not upset me... but that might change with time ;)
     
  45. INEEDMONEY

    INEEDMONEY Homicidal Teddy Bear

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    I find Sony to be a little evil in some cases. Like their notebooks being so expensive. There HDTVs are the most expensive, but they do offer much better pic quality. And as mentioned above about the SD card/Sony Mem stick. So I can't really say they're neutral.

    M$...idk. Forcing computer manufacturers to use Vista is pretty evil in my opinion. And this future OS subscription talk and Live service creeps me out and makes me want to go Linux / OSX

    Speaking of OSX...Apple is more evil than both of these companies if you think about it. There stuff is ridiculously expensive since there is no other Mac competition
     
  46. INEEDMONEY

    INEEDMONEY Homicidal Teddy Bear

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    Oh and about the thread....I would just buy the PS3 now if you definitely know you'll get it in the near future just for the reasons you mentioned.

    $100 price drop on the 60GB version which they are phasing out of production and replacing with the 80GB version which will be again $600.

    Seems like the people who bought the 20GB got the better deal seeing how you can add an external HDD :rolleyes:
     
  47. wdlp65

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    Basically my post was to prove the 360 is far superior in graphics capability than the PS3.

    Most of you argued the fact that it wasn't.

    Plus I have yet to hear anything about the 360 and your notebook sync through Windows Media Extender... Nothing like viewing your pictures or watching videos or listening to music from your pc on your LCD tv.

    Face the facts, the 360 a far superior machine in many aspects.

    Update!!!

    Splinter Cell: Conviction, wouldn't even be possible on the PS3 because the game was built for the 360 from the ground up. But now, one developer has expanded on that situation.

    During an interview with GamePlayer, an Ubisoft developer flat-out said the PS3 can't handle artificial intelligence as well as the 360:

    "It’s NEVER gonna come out on the PS3 or the Wii," he said. "It’s a logical decision. Nintendo’s console simply doesn’t have the graphical horsepower, and...the PS3 can’t handle AI nearly as well as the 360."

    Oops... The name of this post should have been PS3 can't handle Xbox 360 games!

    Heh...
     
  48. Mippoose

    Mippoose Notebook Deity

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    The Xbox 360 is a gaming system sir.. Not the left hand of god.


    The PS3 and 360 have their own ups and downs respectively.

    But it cannot be even argued that the game line-up for the 360 stomps a hole in sonys face.

    MGS4.. Sure it's an awesome game only for PS3.. But I wouldn't exactly buy a system for it.

    Games I am interested in are as follows..

    Bishock
    Halo 3
    Soul Caliber 4
    Devil May Cry 4
    Ace Combat 6
    GTA4
    Assassins Creed
    Gears Of War
    Metal Gear Solid 4

    But I would just cut off the MGS4 and go with a 360...

    Halo 3 multiplayer will be of epic proportions.. As all of it's predecessors were.

    I own neither system though.. No matter how much I wish I did.

    350$ system +9 60$ games.

    890$...

    It hurts.... So bad.
     
  49. Magnus72

    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Looking at graphics the 360 make better use of AA and lighting effects, though the PS3 has better AF than the 360 Anisotropic Filtering. So they both have the + and -. Now of course when I say light effects I mean the ports. But that will probably change. I own a 360.