Now that there are people writing stickies could you?...

Ok i get it the DDR2 vs DDR3, worstation vs consumer cards, IGP against dedicated solutions and all those hypermemory/turbocache threads.

So I have been thinking about the GPU guides and they seem pretty simple now and many people including Dreamer and Chaz have written almost everything you need about GPU's at basic level. So are there any genius's here who can take it to next level and write about pixel shaders, vertex shaders, busbandwiths, stream processors and their role?


Thanks for your time!

*take it as a suggestion

oh btw i meant trying to make sticky threads, sorry for missentence

 

Well, if anyone wants to write something that complex I'd certainly say we could link that thread within one of the current stickies.

 

IEEE beat us to it: http://www.computer.org/portal/site...Xx5dR0mXLSj8hXdnLDN5Kjj5GZTJtTTLZ0!1592783441

 

The guides we have here are more practically oriented, sure there is a lot of theory behind all these things but most people would find the technical details boring and a similar guide would not get much popularity most probably. Plus, it would take time to write it, and I don't see it as a necessity, considering how much information about that you could find in Internet...

That's for starters...

Graphics Beginners' Guide, Part 1: Graphics Cards
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/07/24/graphics_beginners/page8.html

Graphics Beginners' Guide, Part 2: Graphics Technology
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/07/31/graphics_beginners_2/index.html

Graphics Beginners' Guide, Part 3: Graphics Performance
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/08/08/graphics_beginners_3/index.html

 

Wiki worked for me, on all those terms, even have a very complete bus bandwidth list. But if anyone wants to do more power to you.

 

that's pretty much telling people to use google, etc instead of trying to help em out right here, right? there was a thread by LIVEFRMNYC in off-topic about google vs nbr...look it up, if u already haven't.

i would gladly try and help u guys out, but i just don't have enough free time on my hands right now. but any help needed, i'll try to do the max possible...

p.s. and i believe those guides from tom's are pretty outdated...

 

Big V you misunderstand my response. If I thought Wolfraider was asking what those meant I would of answered, but he didn't. I gave support if someone wants to or is able to write a guide. I am very familiar with the thread you mention. I was only telling him how I found those answers. And it is not like what you suggest as I explained something I found useful, and Wiki has 1 article about each of those not 5,000 of varying levels of relevance from some to none. I apologize for not taking the time to link to the articles so as to not appear smug and aloof. Wolf has helped me on a couple of things in the past and would not disrespect him.

 

yeah, my bad, man. for some reason i misinterpreted ur message. i thought u meant something like "why do it here, since a lot of other web sites have all the necessary description, for example, wikipedia."
once again, i apologize.

 

Yeah, and your two posts in this thread are the most heplful posts ever, actually you didn't even try to help...

Granted, they were written last year, and probably some of the things are outdated but there is some general basic information in them, which is still useful, that's way I said they are good for starters. Plus, if anyone wants to write a similar guide here can use them as an example.

Thank you that you told me. I have news for you, I don't have enough time as well otherwise, I would write a book about that and post it here for free.

I don't think that we need it here since I have been here for about an year now and I haven't seen many questions about that, if any. Most people just want to know whether a certain card would run certain games and that's all, and I doubt that a similar guide would not get much popularity. So, I personally woudn't spend time, that I don't have, to write something that most people won't read. Last time I wrote a guide I did it since I thought there was a need for it (i.e. tons of repetitive questions every day) but that's not the case now.

Anyway, if anyone wants to write such a guide, then feel free to, I just said what I personally think about that since my 'name' was kind of involved...

 

Thanks guys for the info, however if i may comment few things about google and wiki.

Google sometimes bumps stuff that is just trashed out crap, litterally. When i wrote core duo vs core 2 duo in google search than it showed few "amateur" forums where majority was saying that core 2 duo is inferior to core duo which has same frequency. and the only thing it has is 64-bit...

Regarding Wikipedia; on the other hand it is written by some professionels "mostly" and you will never see anything about real life performance or how is the card today.
It is extremely boring and written mostly in a language which only people with expertise can understand it. And btw who doesnt love fancy graphs or some color in article

NBR is much more fun to read than "tomshardware, notebookchek" since you can discuss it in a much better way. But looking for statistics those sites aren't bad at all.

 

agreed. good points.

 

Would this thread do the trick? http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=122013

(And yes, it is already in the sticky thread)

If you want more info than this, what should it be, and would it be worth adding to the same thread, or should it be a completely separate one?

 

I'll second this - the stickies we write here are in response to what is posted on the forums. If the forum starts getting flooded with the same/similar questions one of us (members and/or moderators alike) will write an article to put it to rest so we don't have a lot of confusion in the forums (no one wants to see 100 of the same threads). Often times we'll simply take a thread where a lot of good discussion goes on about a particular topic and sticky it.

We're a very supportive community at NBR so if anyone has an idea for a sticky or would like to see something done post in the Suggestions forum and we can give you feedback, and even help doing something. Feel free to PM me if you want to ask something you don't feel comfortable posting in the forums.

 

I understand you ^^ that many people dont ask questions about those certaing things but as you well know many of the newcomers and still some of the members dont know what is a difference between 8400G vs 8400GS
the difference is of course streamprocessors which doubles for some reason the 8400 GS performance
Busbandwith got me that's why i wanted to people know about it.
64-bit mainstream card (x1600, x1700, 7600, 8600GS) severely suffers from performance reason? dont know but i think its something regarding speed

So Jalf if you got time add information about these things to your topic,
It would be indeed handy if we could find all those crippled models to give warning to people about it in GPU guide, before they buy some cheap model and expect too much of it(me :`( ).