Nv Gtx485m

I dunno if anyone seen this yet but that thing is insane!!!!

Review Nvidia Geforce GTX 485M graphics card - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

 

Yeah, we've seen it. I'm sure that many of us have also come to the conclusion that no practical notebook will ever be able to hold that.

 

nice now what will be interesting is the price

 

AH city pig Clevo already has announced 15 incher with a 485 and a i7-2920XM so it really cant be that much of a Monster!!

 

but .... looking at the loaded temp of 70 something that seems quite practical especially for a desktop replacement

dunno about the price though .... but the thought it scary

 

But how thick is it? I don't see any way it could possibly be that powerful without having the same power consumption as the 480M. If it's lower, then I have to wonder why their desktop chips can't offer that kind of performance/watt.

 

Temps are entirely dependent on the cooling system. All that means is that it's well cooled.

 

well according to Notebookcheck its power consumption is rated at 100 watt which is the same for the 480 but you are forgetting the fact that performance wise it doesn't lag a lot behind Vs 480 SLI configuration ....

Also Eurocom rates them 50$ higher than the 480M ....

you have to admit thats pretty nice

 

The manual for the clevo P150 says the thickest part is 1.7 inches.

 

It being more expensive than the 480M is as far from "nice" as something can get.

The 485M is almost the price of Crossfire 6970M. That's terrible.

 

Clevox7200\Sager NP7280 will be able to hold that monster in SLI with their up coming twin PSUs\300watts each

 

I know that it's impressive; I'm just saying that the power consumption of the 480M limited it's appeal, and it wasn't used often.

Though, I guess it really depends on how close the 6970M comes to it. If it's as close as the 5870M was to the 480M, it's going to look pretty bad.

... I got owned.

 

thanks for the post. besides the nice performance boosts, i'm lookin forward to seein how well the 485m (and higher) will handle true HD audio. that's startin to give me a few ideas.

@ city pig: supposedly they sacrificed a bit of cooling to reduce the overall size/thickness of the new 15 incher. it doesn't look very bad at all considering what that beast is hiding inside of it. i honestly thought my NP8850 was going to be a giant, clunky thing, but the more recent clevos have more of that tampered, thinner design.

 

Ah. Makes sense. Still, I wonder if many non-Clevo laptops will use it. I also wonder if NVidia will release a 560M with a more practical TDP...

 

Laugh, Malibal already has the dual 485M option up for the x7200 and man are they expensive lol. but i bet that baby can fly.

 

Now, that just has to be huge.

 

Some one just posted some bench marks on that baby:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/517824-gtx-485m-16.html

scroll down,man it is fast......

 

That 3DMark06 (lol) score has to be SLI. No doubt about it. There's no way the 485M is faster than the desktop 6870. If it is, AMD should just stop trying.

 

lol nah i think it is the x7200 with sli 485M......

 

So 485m with a stronger sandy bridge CPU barely defeated the HD6970m with a lower end sandy bridge on 3dmark06?

Interesting.

485m is quite a powerful and awesome GPU but man with the price x_x

 

The 3dmark06 scores shouldn't be given too much credence; A GTX 580 can be beaten by a HD6850 in that benchmark.

Vantage and 3dmark11 however will be different. If the desktop 6850 vs GTX 460 reviews are of any indication of the mobile side of things, the nVidia cards should score higher in 3dmark Vantage and 11, but the AMD cards should be a bit faster in actual games.

 

funny...i always thought it was the other way around.

if i ever bought or built a machine for pure gaming, it would definitely have an nvidia card. no offense. *ziiip*

 

well .... as for the TDP I don't think the HD 6970M will be less than 100 watts which is the rated for the 485M GTX if ATI did that then kudos!!!!

as for the price it may have a big price tag but it is still a very decent piece of equipment for those who can afford it, because if thats the judging factor then no one would droll when they see a Ferrari or Lamborghini

I am not a fan boy or anything all the cards I owned in my life for like the past 7~10 years was ATI (desktop and now laptop) with the exception of the GO7900 in my previous laptop because of the price tag maybe my ATIs didn't belong to the high end segment but I was amazed by the performance they can pull Vs their cost

 

AMD isn't going to make a 100W GPU just because NVidia did; otherwise, the (desktop) HD 6970 would have been given much higher power consumption. AMD seems to care more about power consumption than NVidia, who would make a 200W card if they could just so they can call it "The world's fastest notebook graphics card."

 

i really dont care if nvidia makes a 100w gpu as long as a 15inch laptop can handle it - and sager just made that laptop.
discrete gpu power consumption is a moot topic what with snb's igp handling idle/low power functions.

 

nVidia definitely cares about power consumption with their GF1xx architecture. Most reviews do not show much difference in power consumption between the HD 6970 and nVidia GTX 570 (which perform very similar). While nVidia does show slightly higher idle and load power consumption, it's not unreasonably higher.

AMD Radeon HD 6970 Video Card | Radeon HD 6970,Review,Video Card,Performance,AMD,Graphics,Benchmarks,Olin Coles,AMD Radeon HD 6970 Video Card Graphical Benchmark Performance Test Review by Olin Coles

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 Reference Design 31 W and 241 W (GPUs only)
ATI Radeon HD 6970 Reference Design 24 W and 233 W

AMD Radeon HD 6970 Review > Power Consumption & Temperatures - TechSpot

Gigabyte GTX 570 162W and 371W
AMD HD 6970 155W and 375W

Power & Temp - AMD Radeon HD 6970 and HD 6950 Video Card Review | [H]ard|OCP

nVidia GTX 570 208W and 454W (this is the biggest difference at load ~6%)
AMD HD 6970 202W and 428W

 

I didn't say that NVidia doesn't care; I said that AMD seems to care more. Also, that's still not Barts compared to GF104, which is the issue here.

 

How the heck do they get away with the pricing though! And who continues to buy this knowing that it's a complete rip off? The 485 would have to be nearly twice as fast as the new 6970 to beat the AMD in pricing. And you know it won't be. Nvidia has lost touch with pricing and wattage requirements they are pushing themselves to the edge of the market.

 

has the pricing of the 485m come out?

 

Price is not officially out yet. The 470M has received a significant price drop.

Expect the 485M to be at least +$350 over the discounted 470M.

 

and it will be the same card yet again...

 

with a higher price

 

I doubt it. There's nothing more that they can do to make it more powerful while staying below 100W, so I think the 500M series is going to turn out a lot like the 300M series. The only reason to even try would be if the 6970M beats the 485M, and that didn't happen by a long shot. We won't see a successor until the 28nm 680M, most likely.

 

If Nvidia was going to rebrand with the 580M name, they would've done it right now, with this powerful chip. They stuck with the 485M name, even as other chips were being given 500M designations.

GTX 580M is either being saved for something special, or will be skipped altogether.

 

Man, $500 is a lot of coin, but it gets me the laptop with the performance I want. But I'd feel like a tool if in six months AMD comes out with a 6000 series MXM 3.0b GPU at the same cost but puts the 485m to shame.

 

If the 6970M is a 100W card like everyone thinks it is, you won't have to worry about that.

 

I didn't follow the pricing on the 470M. How much did it drop by immediately prior the 485M release?

 

Hmm, I'm having a hard time remembering, but I think it used to be over $300 more than the 460M. So maybe $150 or so?

 

I bet the performance is similar only ATI will sell at $200 less.

 

The question is though, will I be able to buy it for less than the $500 upgrade price if I configure the machine with a 485m right now?

 

Eventhough nvidia finally released a card that is actually stronger than the hd5870 (even the gtx480 got outperformed in some cases), I seriously doubt its worth the money.

Nonetheless, I can't wait to see how this card would perform in SLI configuration, with one card being dedicated to handle the physx the result should be awesome ^^

Btw, does Ati have (or will have) similar technologies that create the same effects as physx or is nvidia the only way to go if you want physx effects?(though i'll probably be able to live without those few extra sparks in maffia2 if it would cost me 3-400€ less on a xfire set up).

 

There are a few third party Physics engines out there such as Havok and Bullet which use OpenCL.