Nvidia 8700 gt

Hey,

Anyone know how is it? Is it good? I am getting it with Toshiba x200 Laptop.

So need suggestions please.

thanks

 

pretty good card & a Direct X10 card, plays almost all games on high at the moment though might need settings to be lowered a bit for Crysis & it will last you a few years game wise. Gets a 3DMark06 score of about 5000-ish.

 

i would personally skip out on the toshiba, you can ge the laptop in my sig with a 2.5x more powerful graphics card for $1350.

 

Is it better than 8600GT?

 

what my graphics card or the 8700m GT?

 

8600<8700<8800, doh!

 

The 8700 is great if you dont clock it you should get a 3Dmark score between 4500 and 5000 it depends on your CPU.

You will however be able to clock this card and get at least over 6500 points in DMark2006 maybe more since my friends 8600 GT SLI gets like 8500.

 

well since 3DMARK is pointless, this is completely irrelevant.

 

well 3Dmark is not pointless at all it gives you a aspect how well the card will do in games.

 

no benchmarks and actually playing games will tell you that.

 

yes know that it does not work for some thing like mostly SLI and Crossfire options, but for most cards it works very well with 3DMark

 

ok think what you want, i dont care so much.

but spreading the mis information that 3d mark will tell you how your card will perform is wrong. It has a large CPU portion and that can raise scores higher than usual, which will not happen in games.

These new cards are also optimized for 3dmark so the regular person will be like " sweet high 3dmark score, must do great in games" not so much.

 

Yes i know he newest cars are optimized for 3DMark but in my experience the benchmark has worked really well and always told me the truth until my X3100 benched 2800 point in 2001SE which is vey ****ty compared to its performance in real games. Point is 3Dmark is a good way to see if your cards sux or not.

Why does GF 8600 get more pints then 8400 and 8800 more then 8700 if the test not work? same with ATI cards, dont matte if i3Dmark is optimized or not it will show u which cards are okay and which cards is crap

 

obviously because they are better cards!

it will give you the geenral spectrum of where they are at yes, but Nvidia and ATI allready show where they are at. and our GPU sticky guide shows where they are as well.

 

well there are more people using 3Dmark than reading the sticky guide.
Most people dont know what cards are etc that is why 3DMark is a wellmade program.

 

3DMark only measures raw power. That's why SLI cards give impressive results... while very few games can use SLI as it is intended to be (that is 100% increase). That is why 3DMark is only a grain of salt in comparison with actual games benchmarks.

As a general reference is fine, but as already mentioned: the companies have already told you that.

 

3dmark06 has flaws... yep (the most obvious its processor bias)
but a 20% increase in 3dmark06 will show a 15-25% increase in games...

The gateway is indeed a better deal right now, and the 8800mGTS is indeed a better card than the 8700m.

The 8700m performs VERY well at 1280x1024(1440x900) and below and it overclocks like a champ. When all is said and done it will play most games quite well as long as you don't flood its memory bus.

The 8800m series has a wider memory bus and thus handles higher resolutions and other memory hogs like AA better.
The 8800GTS is NOT 2.5x better than the 8700m. The 8800mGTX may be, (when the 8700m isn't tweaked) but the 8800GTS is not.

Everything said and done, I am dispelling Nars's bull... but his final conclusion is true. get the gateway for 1350 or so if possible... the toshiba really are very nice, but until they offer an 8800m OR a lower price point on the 8700, the gateway is a better deal.

 

Anyway, besides the 3DMARK fight. Yes the 8700m is a great card and will play practically every current game on high settings.

 

http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=3155&p=4

yes my bad, from that sort of review, the GTS is about 2 times faster and the GTX is about 2.5 faster.

 

Indeed the 8800GTS is about twice as fast as an 8700m...
at 1920x1200... and 8xAF and 4xAA!
Honestly, I was very surprised at how well the 8700m did at that resolution where the memory bandwidth would definitely be stretched to its limit.

Note the only comparison listed in that review which shows a fair comparison with processor and below or at 1280x1024 is the 3dmark06 one.

The 8800mGTS scores about 46% better in that test... and Anand is testing at stock clocks with no tweaking. Note OC and tweaking the 8700m could ALMOST get you that level of performance from the 8700m at 1280x1024!

The 8800mGTS is slightly farther ahead of the 8700m than the 8700m is above the 8600m (DDR3) at 1280x1024 and below.
Thus where I specifically stated, nars is claiming more than 5x the real difference.

At 1920x1200 with 8xAF and 4xAA (far above what either of these laptops can show you on their screens) Nars was only exaggerating by 25%.
(closer but still an exaggeration)

Nars, you have this habit of disagreeing with me then proving my point.